Pierzynski 12 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Sox manager Ozzie Guillen, his wife, Ibis, and their son, Oney, all natives of Venezuela, are scheduled to be sworn in as United States citizens Friday. Guillen also will be celebrating his 42nd birthday. http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...tesox-headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Not sure about the culture, but is this something that would upset Venenzuela? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Congrats to Ozzie and his family! Now they can cancel that Spanish-Langauge White Sox show on the Score! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 He might be getting a dual citizenship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I remember him having to get stuff ready for this around the ASB; that's why he wouldn't have been a coach, if asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 19, 2006 -> 12:24 PM) He might be getting a dual citizenship. In the eyes of the US government, you can't be a dual citizen. Venezuela, on the other hand, may not mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jan 19, 2006 -> 12:39 PM) In the eyes of the US government, you can't be a dual citizen. Venezuela, on the other hand, may not mind. Really? So what is dual citizenship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jan 19, 2006 -> 11:39 AM) In the eyes of the US government, you can't be a dual citizen. Venezuela, on the other hand, may not mind. Did you mean to say you CAN be a dual citizen...? http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 QUOTE(Brian @ Jan 19, 2006 -> 12:16 PM) Not sure about the culture, but is this something that would upset Venenzuela? I doubt it. He's been planning on this publicly for a while, so I'm sure we would've heard if they have a problem by now. I think they'd be more upset that you spelled their name wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 19, 2006 -> 12:52 PM) Did you mean to say you CAN be a dual citizen...? http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. As Steff points out, you can indeed have dual citizenship. I know people who have citizenship in the US and Ireland, for example. I even know one who is US and Australian citizenship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jan 19, 2006 -> 01:45 PM) I doubt it. He's been planning on this publicly for a while, so I'm sure we would've heard if they have a problem by now. I think they'd be more upset that you spelled their name wrong. So I guess they are all upset. At some point you have to become a US citizen if you want to stay and work here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I'm surprised he wasn't a U.S. citizen yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Stupid question, but I didn't see Ozzie Jr on the list of family members, I take it he was born here and already a citizen?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samclemens Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jan 19, 2006 -> 01:39 PM) In the eyes of the US government, you can't be a dual citizen. Venezuela, on the other hand, may not mind. yes, you can be a dual citizen in the eyes of the US government. i know several dual citizens. where did you hear this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 10:12 AM) Stupid question, but I didn't see Ozzie Jr on the list of family members, I take it he was born here and already a citizen?? Only his oldest was born in Venezuela, the other one or two ?? are natural born US citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Generally, you are expected to renounce other citizenships when taking your U.S. Citizenship. However, some nationalities do not allow that option. My father for example was unable to renounce his French citizenship, because he was too old at the time. France gives you a short window of time in which to do it. I can also get French or German citizenship myself being a direct descendant of immigrants from each country and can do so without losing my U.S. citizenship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 The Score just said that the Sox gave Ozzie a present today - the US flag that flew over the Cell during the World Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro1983hat Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 03:04 PM) The Score just said that the Sox gave Ozzie a present today - the US flag that flew over the Cell during the World Series. I must say that the Sox have gone from a weekly PR disaster to consistently doing the right thing. We are becoming the classiest organization in the MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baines3 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I'm happy for Ozzie and his family. The was a nice gift the White Sox gave Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 QUOTE(retro1983hat @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 03:22 PM) I must say that the Sox have gone from a weekly PR disaster to consistently doing the right thing. We are becoming the classiest organization in the MLB. I love hearing about this organization becoming one of the classiest around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan14 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Congrats Ozzie, Ibis, and Oney!! Happy Birthday Ozzie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 You'd think the Sox would have been smart enough to change flags before game 2. The could have actioned the second one off to help WS Charities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin57 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 The coverage in both papers this morning about Ozzie's citizenship was primo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jan 20, 2006 -> 11:54 AM) Generally, you are expected to renounce other citizenships when taking your U.S. Citizenship. I was just wondering if how that would work the other way around? If you are already a US citizen and want to also get citizenship with another nation, would that be possible? I would assume it would that automatically void US citizenship correct? SFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 QUOTE(SpringfieldFan @ Jan 21, 2006 -> 11:13 AM) I was just wondering if how that would work the other way around? If you are already a US citizen and want to also get citizenship with another nation, would that be possible? I would assume it would that automatically void US citizenship correct? SFF No. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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