NBA's Most Improved Player

[Chisoxfn]

Id say an avg. game well this season it would be one of his better but yeah id say if he produces like he has the last 2 games we might have something here.... wish he would get a couple more blocks.

He shut down Bosh when on the court and was dominating in my hustle category (which is a big category). Scrapping and winning lose balls and gaining extra posessions is what its all about and he was all over the place. Had at least one tick tack foul on him.

 

The rebounds weren't as high as usual, but thats because his guy (Bosh) plays more of an outside game, which keeps him a little more off the glass.

 

Definately two of his best games and both were in a row. I'm quietly gaining confidence about this team (and this years chances). We play like we did the past two nights (which is the type of team I expect us to be) and we are a playoff team. No doubt about it in my mind.

[SSH2005]

Word.  I counted three airballs put up by Chris Bosh when Chandler was guarding him.  Those are blocks in my book.  Now that he's back in his element at the PF slot, the Bulls should be a hell of a lot better.

 

And Luol Deng?  God damn does he continue to impress.  Why is he only getting 11 shots per game?

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Maybe Deng realized that he was taking too many stupid, low percentage shots. He still tends to do it quite a bit.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

For over $60 million dollars, Chandler's good games shouldn't be 11 points and 8 rebounds.  But anything is an improvement I guess.

 

:headshake

 

Apparently we have to really lower our expectations for him now...

 

Let me know when he gets double digit boards in two consecutive games. That's all he's bein' paid to f***in' do really...

[hammerhead johnson]

wish he would get a couple more blocks.

 

f*** a statsheet, though. Three airballs forced ain't gonna show up in a box score.

[GoodAsGould]

The good thing is there is no doubt that Chandler needs to be in the PF slot to be really effective.... so now lets just hope Othella can handle the load at C.

[SSH2005]

:headshake

 

Apparently we have to really lower our expectations for him now...

 

Let me know when he gets double digit boards in two consecutive games.  That's all he's bein' paid to f***in' do really...

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7'1" and he averages 7.4 rebounds a game. Gotta love it. We will have to sign a real center so Chandler can stick to PF.

[Chisoxfn]

Word.  I counted three airballs put up by Chris Bosh when Chandler was guarding him.  Those are blocks in my book.  Now that he's back in his element at the PF slot, the Bulls should be a hell of a lot better.

 

And Luol Deng?  God damn does he continue to impress.  Why is he only getting 11 shots per game?

I'm liking how he's becoming better and passing when he slashes into the hoop. He's gonna be a monster, imo. I liken him to a 20/5/7 type of guy who will play good defense. One thing i notice is that he needs to bulk out. Guys like Jalen Rose (whose hiddenly strong) seem to push him around a bit when he's playing post defense.

 

His shot has also taken great strides in just one season and I expect it to continue to improve. And ya, Tyson played great defense on Bosh. Bosh looked tired too, but I'm not gonna take anything away from Tyson. He was short on almost all his shots or extra long and it had a lot to do with Tyson.

 

Like I said the 1st night we had this new lineup, its the perfect lineup since it allows Tyson to start the game in the 4 spot and get comfortable (with Harrington playing the 5). Once Harrington leaves you can slide Tyson back to the 5th and its not as big as an issue since he's allowed to get comfortable.

 

It also helps that Toronto, like Indiana, lack two post players and neither of them have a large front court (O'Neal is the man, but Tyson can match up with him).

[hammerhead johnson]

Chandler is a work in progress, fellas. Have some patience FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

[Chisoxfn]

f*** a statsheet, though.  Three airballs forced ain't gonna show up in a box score.

Exactly and Bosh is one of the better scoring power forwards in the league. Tyson played a really good game. Defense isn't a stat that shows up (sure steals and blocks and boards are there) but on the ball defense is huge and Tyson did a nice job of that tonight.

[SSH2005]

Chandler is a work in progress, fellas.  Have some patience FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. 

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Until he bulks up, I won't be holding my breath.

[hammerhead johnson]

We will have to sign a real center so Chandler can stick to PF.

 

Real centers ain't 235 pounds.

 

He should have never been put in the C slot, but Paxson thought that it would be a good idea. After 5 games, him and Skiles should have come to the conclusion that he is not cut out to play center at his weight. But no, we had to wait 40 games for these guys to recognize that s***.

[GoodAsGould]

Well I havent been able to see any games recently with work or something taking up my time so ill take your word on it that he looks improved... thats good Deng and Chandler are my favorite players so while I was happy with Deng i was kind of depressed with Chandler.

[Chisoxfn]

Real centers ain't 235 pounds. 

 

He should have never been put in the C slot, but Paxson thought that it would be a good idea.  After 5 games, him and Skiles should have come to the conclusion that he is not cut out to play center at his weight.  But no, we had to wait 40 games for these guys to recognize that s***.

Its more that the team was stuck when the whole Curry thing went down. We don't have anyone else with that height so they had to try a ton of lineups. I don't blame them one bit. They got put in a tough spot and Tyson is the most likely to be a center on the squad.

 

Part of the problem was Tyson was a lazy ass this off-season (for the first time in his career). I love Tyson's attitude though and while I really slammed him after his low game I'm more than willing to admit all the tools are there for him to be have a mini Ben Wallace like impact on this team.

[SSH2005]

Real centers ain't 235 pounds. 

 

He should have never been put in the C slot, but Paxson thought that it would be a good idea.  After 5 games, him and Skiles should have come to the conclusion that he is not cut out to play center at his weight.  But no, we had to wait 40 games for these guys to recognize that s***.

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Chandler is 7'1". He really shouldn't be only 235 pounds. He still isn't in NBA shape even after 5 years in the NBA. I laugh everytime I see a shot of his biceps, or lack thereof.

[hammerhead johnson]

Its more that the team was stuck when the whole Curry thing went down.  We don't have anyone else with that height so they had to try a ton of lineups.  I don't blame them one bit.  They got put in a tough spot and Tyson is the most likely to be a center on the squad. 

 

Right on. Paxson should have had a back-up plan, though. f***ing Malik Allen ain't cutting it.

[SSH2005]

Its more that the team was stuck when the whole Curry thing went down.  We don't have anyone else with that height so they had to try a ton of lineups.  I don't blame them one bit.  They got put in a tough spot and Tyson is the most likely to be a center on the squad. 

 

Part of the problem was Tyson was a lazy ass this off-season (for the first time in his career).  I love Tyson's attitude though and while I really slammed him after his low game I'm more than willing to admit all the tools are there for him to be have a mini Ben Wallace like impact on this team.

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I'd rather have the real Ben Wallace next year. He's a free agent after this season, right?

[hammerhead johnson]

Chandler is 7'1".  He really shouldn't be only 235 pounds.  He still isn't in NBA shape even after 5 years in the NBA.  I laugh everytime I see a shot of his biceps, or lack thereof.

 

Kevin Garnett is a monster defender/rebounder, and he weighs only 220 pounds. Jermaine O'Neal is also an amazing defender/rebounder, and he weighs 242 pounds. Those guys are both Top 10 defenders in this league out of the PF slot and they ain't working with much in the biceps department. They're just slim giants with superior quickness, length, and aggressiveness. You're muscles don't have to be bulging in order for you to contain PFs and alter a ton of shots when you're that tall and that quick.

[SSH2005]

Kevin Garnett is a monster defender/rebounder, and he weighs only 220 pounds.  Jermaine O'Neal is also an amazing defender/rebounder, and he weighs 242 pounds.  Those guys are both Top 10 defenders in this league out of the PF slot and they ain't working with much in the biceps department.  They're just slim giants with superior quickness, length, and aggressiveness.  You're muscles don't have to be bulging in order for you to contain PFs and alter a ton of shots when you're that tall and that quick.

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But Garnett has more talent in his pinky than Chandler. Jermaine O'Neal is also much better. Maybe if Chandler was more physical, he wouldn't need any more size. But he isn't physical. He doesn't even know how to go to the basket except when he's going for a tip-in or a putback. And why does Chandler flex? It's not like he has anything but twig arms...

 

 

Ahhh, Chandler frustrates me. Mainly because Elton Brand was stupidly traded for him. Not to mention the fact that Chandler is making over $60 million dollars and looks like a massive bust.

Edited January 26, 2006 by SSH2005

[SleepyWhiteSox]

But Garnett has more talent in his pinky than Chandler.  Jermaine O'Neal is also much better.  Maybe if Chandler was more physical, he wouldn't need any more size.  But he isn't physical.  He doesn't even know how to go to the basket except when he's going for a tip-in or a putback.  And why does Chandler flex?  It's not like he has anything but twig arms...

 

 

Ahhh, Chandler frustrates me.  Mainly because Elton Brand was stupidly traded for him.  Not to mention the fact that Chandler is making over $60 million dollars and looks like a massive bust.

 

[SSH2005]

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Sorry, that was my massive Tyson Chandler rant.

 

Ahhh, I feel much better now.

[hammerhead johnson]

But Garnett has more talent in his pinky than Chandler.  Jermaine O'Neal is also much better.  Maybe if Chandler was more physical, he wouldn't need any more size.  But he isn't physical.  He doesn't even know how to go to the basket except when he's going for a tip-in or a putback.  And why does Chandler flex?  It's not like he has anything but twig arms...

 

 

Ahhh, Chandler frustrates me.  Mainly because Elton Brand was stupidly traded for him.  Not to mention the fact that Chandler is making over $60 million dollars and looks like a massive bust.

 

Awesome pictures.

 

Hey, don't put too much weight in his offensive game. He can't really dribble or shoot or anything like that.

[hammerhead johnson]

Hey, how come nobody voted for Eddie Griffin?

[SSH2005]

Hey, how come nobody voted for Eddie Griffin? 

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Do you mean Adrian Griffin?

[hammerhead johnson]

Do you mean Adrian Griffin?

 

Eddie Griffin on the Timberwolves. God damn has he been looking good recently.

[SSH2005]

Eddie Griffin on the Timberwolves.  God damn has he been looking good recently.

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Eddie Griffin's numbers looked better coming off the bench last season...

 

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/eddie_griffin/index.html