clujer420 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I applaud Hawk. He's forced to sit there and watch the Sox stink it up game after game, and there aren't many people who are bigger fans of this team than he is, but he has to pretty much keep silent. He doesn't have the luxury of screaming out "f***KKKKKKKKKKKK" everytime the Sox f*** up like we at home or in the stands do. He's also got to be PC and try to keep the fans at home interested. He can't say "This team sucks" or "It's over", because WGN wants people to keep the game tuned in. Hawk is great, and I don't think he gets enough credit for how good he does under VERY difficult circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I applaud Hawk. He's forced to sit there and watch the Sox stink it up game after game, and there aren't many people who are bigger fans of this team than he is, but he has to pretty much keep silent. He doesn't have the luxury of screaming out "f***KKKKKKKKKKKK" everytime the Sox f*** up like we at home or in the stands do. He's also got to be PC and try to keep the fans at home interested. He can't say "This team sucks" or "It's over", because WGN wants people to keep the game tuned in. Hawk is great, and I don't think he gets enough credit for how good he does under VERY difficult circumstances. Between innings he is saying every 4 letter word he knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Game on foxsport not WGN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I applaud Hawk. He's forced to sit there and watch the Sox stink it up game after game, and there aren't many people who are bigger fans of this team than he is, but he has to pretty much keep silent. He doesn't have the luxury of screaming out "f***KKKKKKKKKKKK" everytime the Sox f*** up like we at home or in the stands do. He's also got to be PC and try to keep the fans at home interested. He can't say "This team sucks" or "It's over", because WGN wants people to keep the game tuned in. Hawk is great, and I don't think he gets enough credit for how good he does under VERY difficult circumstances. He also gets paid lots of money to watch baseball. Give me a f***ing break lol..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted May 25, 2003 Author Share Posted May 25, 2003 Game on foxsport not WGN Whatever, you get the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Well you heard him and DJ ripping Manuel. They were both commenting on how stupid it was not bunting with Alomar and I couldn't agree more. Jm is just sitting hoping for the homer and for once it happened, but that doesn't mean he did the right job managing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Well you heard him and DJ ripping Manuel. They were both commenting on how stupid it was not bunting with Alomar and I couldn't agree more. Jm is just sitting hoping for the homer and for once it happened, but that doesn't mean he did the right job managing. 99 out of 100 times, his dumbass moves(or lack of) backfires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I still wonder how Hawk would do as a manager. You definately wouldn't have a flat team with no fundimentals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted May 25, 2003 Author Share Posted May 25, 2003 99 out of 100 times, his dumbass moves(or lack of) backfires. Down 3, runners on 1st and 2nd with 0 out, Alomar DEFINITELY should have been bunting. But, for once we did something fundamentally wrong and it didn't come back to bite us in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I still wonder how Hawk would do as a manager. You definately wouldn't have a flat team with no fundimentals... I'd like DJ somewhere as a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I still wonder how Hawk would do as a manager. You definately wouldn't have a flat team with no fundimentals... hmmm probably as good as he did as our gm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 99 out of 100 times, his dumbass moves(or lack of) backfires. Hell yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Down 3, runners on 1st and 2nd with 0 out, Alomar DEFINITELY should have been bunting. But, for once we did something fundamentally wrong and it didn't come back to bite us in the ass. Thats the thing, people say Manuel manages to small ball, but that was absolutely stupid not bunting. Especially considering Alomar has been in a slump. I understand if its Maggs at the plate, but Alomar isn't Maggs. We are damn lucky he didn't hit into a double freakin play. I don't give a damn that the result was a grandslam cause it still wasn't proper. I'll take it, but it was stupid managing. He should be fired. He does stupid things all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 hmmm probably as good as he did as our gm? It is completely different in the dugout and front office. That is like saying Billy Beane is a great GM so he must have been a great player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I'd like DJ somewhere as a coach. If it gets him out of the booth , I am 100000% for it he is terrible in the booth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 It is completely different in the dugout and front office. That is like saying Billy Beane is a great GM so he must have been a great player. Dude hawk has baseball knowledge, but that does not translate to leading people or making the proper decisions. He has proven that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASHWOUND Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 It is completely different in the dugout and front office. That is like saying Billy Beane is a great GM so he must have been a great player. I agree, I would take Hawk over f***in Manuel anyday of the week to manage this club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Dude hawk has baseball knowledge, but that does not translate to leading people or making the proper decisions. He has proven that. He has baseball knowledge, not personel knowledge. He knows how to play the game, and what needs to be done, at what stage of a ball game. The leading people part is the part that I wonder about. And being the GM doesn't have much to do with leading people, unless you are Kenny Williams who interferes with the day to day management of a club. All the GM should have contact with is the Manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 If it gets him out of the booth , I am 100000% for it he is terrible in the booth I've became a pretty big DJ fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 He has baseball knowledge, not personel knowledge. He knows how to play the game, and what needs to be done, at what stage of a ball game. The leading people part is the part that I wonder about. And being the GM doesn't have much to do with leading people, unless you are Kenny Williams who interferes with the day to day management of a club. All the GM should have contact with is the Manager. DO you remember him as gm? He was horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 DO you remember him as gm? He was horrible. I am not saying he was a good GM, he was HORRIBLE. But that has nothing to do with being a FIELD MANAGER. It is a completely different job. Has anyone every gone from being a good field manager to a good general manager in baseball, or vice versa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Well Brenly did a solid job from the booth to the dugout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Well Brenly did a solid job from the booth to the dugout. So did the prior Houston manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I am not saying he was a good GM, he was HORRIBLE. But that has nothing to do with being a FIELD MANAGER. It is a completely different job. Has anyone every gone from being a good field manager to a good general manager in baseball, or vice versa? ANything is possible. Personally, I wouldnt give the guy a chance considering he was given a chance as gm and failed miserably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASHWOUND Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Well Brenly did a solid job from the booth to the dugout. Who was the Astros manager that came from the booth to manage the stros? I think he resigned a couple years ago..I should know this but my mind is drawing a blank..which happens alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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