southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 That's what we get when you use the best only for an inning (Marte) and have no offense in the late innings cause they all clocked out. Marte threw 24 pitches in that one inning of work. He wasn't real impressive. Plus he threw 19 pitches yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 That's what we get when you use the best only for an inning (Marte) and have no offense in the late innings cause they all clocked out. What are you talking about? Marte threw 24 pitches in 1 inning. Did you want Manuel to bring him back out? So far, I'm very satisfied with the way that this game has been managed (not played...managed). The only mistake I've noticed was Sandy not bunting in the 2 on, 0 out situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Thomas Ordonez and Graffy for the bottom of the 12th. OH for the long ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 That's what we get when you use the best only for an inning (Marte) and have no offense in the late innings cause they all clocked out. He threw 24 pitches and is used almost every day there is nothing you can do. Very rarely do I ever complain about Manuels use of pitchers. Lately he has only used White once the Sox are getting hammered and White was the only one I ever really disagreed with him using. I have always disagreed with manuel's way of running an offense. In regards to pitchers, I also must add that it isn't Manuel doing this, but Cooper. From everything I've read, it is cooper that handles 90% of all decisions with the pitchers . When they come out, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 What are you talking about? Marte threw 24 pitches in 1 inning. Did you want Manuel to bring him back out? So far, I'm very satisfied with the way that this game has been managed (not played...managed). The only mistake I've noticed was Sandy not bunting in the 2 on, 0 out situation. There have been a few others like not running with the knuckleballer, but its been alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Thomas Ordonez and Graffy for the bottom of the 12th. OH for the long ball They will all be swinging for the fences trying to be the hero. Well I at least expect Frank to. Hell, Frank rips a single. Now we have Maggs and Graffy up. I like our chances if we stay out of a double play. Also, sox should pinch run with Rios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Big Frank gets on base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 He threw 24 pitches and is used almost every day there is nothing you can do. Very rarely do I ever complain about Manuels use of pitchers. Lately he has only used White once the Sox are getting hammered and White was the only one I ever really disagreed with him using. I have always disagreed with manuel's way of running an offense. In regards to pitchers, I also must add that it isn't Manuel doing this, but Cooper. From everything I've read, it is cooper that handles 90% of all decisions with the pitchers . When they come out, etc. I didn't know that Cooper called most decisions about the pitching. Makes sense, but I think we need to start stretching these guys out a little. I guess though I would have rather seen Glover than White at this point in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 This is another mistake in my book, not pinch running. Rios is a much better runner and a better shot at going first to 3rd as well as a better shot at breaking up that double play that Magglio just hit into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 And Maggs grounds into a DP to end that hope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 He threw 24 pitches and is used almost every day there is nothing you can do. Very rarely do I ever complain about Manuels use of pitchers. Lately he has only used White once the Sox are getting hammered and White was the only one I ever really disagreed with him using. I have always disagreed with manuel's way of running an offense. In regards to pitchers, I also must add that it isn't Manuel doing this, but Cooper. From everything I've read, it is cooper that handles 90% of all decisions with the pitchers . When they come out, etc. I didn't know that Cooper called most decisions about the pitching. Makes sense, but I think we need to start stretching these guys out a little. I guess though I would have rather seen Glover than White at this point in the game. 24 pitches is a ton for a reliever. If its someone like White or Glover that are more long term, every few day guys than it makes sense, but Marte is used almost every day so if you pitch him 50 pitches, you shut him down for 3 days otherwise you risk injury. You can tell things changed when Nardi left. Pitchers started staying out there longer. Hell, notice how Colon threw 130 pitches his last outing, you know that never happened with Manuel/Nardi in there. Nice High Throw and Graffy is on 2nd on the error by Munson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Big throwing E on Munson, Graff to 2nd... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 When did the Tigers bring Greg Norton in to play 3rd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Man in scoring position again, gotta get one across eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Maggs is anoher one (in fact aren't he and Konerko tied for GIDP?) Why can't these big hitters deliver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 And Ordonez doesn't bunt, pathetic. Man on first, no outs, and you don't f***ing bunt? I don't care if your Barry f***ing Bonds, you BUNT in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 When did the Tigers bring Greg Norton in to play 3rd? He has been hitting for us as our 3B all year long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Wow. These two teams have no idea on how to hit teh ball... game might never end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 This is odd. No way in hell would I pitch around Konerko. I like Crede much more in this situation. He is very comfortable going opposite field and I got a good feeling about this. Also, I tend to agree with Cerb, bunting there would be nice, but I don't bunt with him because Magglio has been crushing it and you expect him to go oppo field and hard. Like I say, Rios is in, that dp gets broken up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 DJ goes out on a limb and saids base hit game over for Crede... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 DJ goes out on a limb and saids base hit game over for Crede... Kiss of death right there, onto the 13th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 I CALLED IT Joe Freaking Crede, game winning 3 run homer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 He has been hitting for us as our 3B all year long... Norton with a game winning bomb!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Kiss of death right there, onto the 13th! lol. What do you like on your crow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 This is sad, just when the Sox look pathetic, they rall back, then falter, then come back and win. My hopes go up and down like a yo-yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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