WHarris1 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 26, 2006 -> 08:45 PM) Im not getting into it. But results are results and we beat Carolina with Orton then lost to them with Grossman (when it really counted I might add.) That's an awful argument. Seeing has how we scored more points behind Rex, which is the only thing he can control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 see above post, WHarris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 26, 2006 -> 09:00 PM) see above post, WHarris Then why did you say it? Don't make a bad point and then say...NO I DONT WANNA ARGUE IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 27, 2006 -> 03:00 AM) see above post, WHarris thats fine just give us 1 detailed post about it.... not we won with Orton lost with Grossman crap because thats just dumb....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Because whenever I do argue it I get the same Bears fan homer bulls***. I've been through it like 90 times on the Football board. Mmmmmmmmk!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 26, 2006 -> 09:02 PM) Because whenever I do argue it I get the same Bears fan homer bulls***. It doesn't take Bears fan homer bulls*** to see we scored more points with Rex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Whats a QB's #1 job? Win ballgames. Rex Grossman had two drives to do so and handled both very badly. I dont care if he put up 35 points, if you need to score to win, a good QB will score. Did you watch the Rose Bowl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Im not a fan of either really... although id say of the two I like Rex more... but saying we won with Orton lost with Grossman sounds homerish to me.... this is a message board who cares if we hijack the thread its about the bears anyways just tell me why you think Orton is better and give reasons behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 The case really isnt whos better... they both arent starting caliber. It's whos cheaper to keep as a backup, that'd be Kyle Orton, thank you. I've had enough of the Rex Grossman expierence and its time to look for a new answer there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 27, 2006 -> 03:06 AM) The case really isnt whos better... they both arent starting caliber. It's whos cheaper to keep as a backup, that'd be Kyle Orton, thank you. I've had enough of the Rex Grossman expierence and its time to look for a new answer there. Ok than I can respect that opinion more....As long as you dont drink the Orton kool-aid and think he outperformed Rex just because we beat Carolina earlier.... so while I disagree and would like to see Rex with 1 more season and if he busts or injury again be done with him I can respect that opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I think we should say f*** it and give the farm for Vince Young. Wont happen, but if it did I'd have trouble not creaming myself every 5 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 26, 2006 -> 10:11 PM) I think we should say f*** it and give the farm for Vince Young. Wont happen, but if it did I'd have trouble not creaming myself every 5 seconds. Why trade for a worse Mike Vick? Without the crappy defenses and good Texas o-line, Young is going to be in trouble. And it will be funny to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 27, 2006 -> 03:11 AM) I think we should say f*** it and give the farm for Vince Young. Wont happen, but if it did I'd have trouble not creaming myself every 5 seconds. Idonno he is going to need at least 2-3 seasons to adjust to the NFL really.... and with our current defense id rather take the more polished QB in Lienart. Hell id consider taking Marcus Vick though in the 2nd-3rd round because it wouldnt cost us the "farm" and I think he can be a stud because unlike his brother he knows how to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 No way. Young is NOT Vick, Mr. Young made Pete Carroll look like a fool. And USC doesnt have a terrible defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 27, 2006 -> 03:15 AM) No way. Young is NOT Vick, Mr. Young made Pete Carroll look like a fool. And USC doesnt have a terrible defense. :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Idonno he is going to need at least 2-3 seasons to adjust to the NFL really.... and with our current defense id rather take the more polished QB in Lienart. Hell id consider taking Marcus Vick though in the 2nd-3rd round because it wouldnt cost us the "farm" and I think he can be a stud because unlike his brother he knows how to pass. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The reason Young will be a top 10 QB of alltime is because he is the best (I know it sounds corny) leader you could ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 26, 2006 -> 10:15 PM) No way. Young is NOT Vick, Mr. Young made Pete Carroll look like a fool. And USC doesnt have a terrible defense. Its funny because you think Pete Carroll is a good defense coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Felix @ Jan 26, 2006 -> 09:14 PM) Why trade for a worse Mike Vick? Without the crappy defenses and good Texas o-line, Young is going to be in trouble. And it will be funny to watch. Yeah, because he wasn't tearing up Ohio State's defense earlier in the year and Michigan's in the previous year's Rose Bowl. Vince Young is a legit great prospect at QB. Edited January 27, 2006 by nitetrain8601 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jan 26, 2006 -> 10:16 PM) The reason Young will be a top 10 QB of alltime is because he is the best (I know it sounds corny) leader you could ask for. Will you at least admit it when he is a bust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(Felix @ Jan 27, 2006 -> 03:17 AM) Will you at least admit it when he is a bust? are you going to bring up this post in 2-3 years when its safe to label him as a bust? Hell still even be posting here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 26, 2006 -> 10:18 PM) are you going to bring up this post in 2-3 years when its safe to label him as a bust? Hell still even be posting here? Time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Its funny because you think Pete Carroll is a good defense coach. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> he got a head coaching gig in the nfl... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Versatile Randle El prime target for Bears Draft focus is on tight end, secondary http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines Talk around this year's Senior Bowl practice week is that the Bears' first priority will be Pittsburgh wide receiver and premier returner Antwaan Randle El when free agency begins in March. Randle El, from Thornton High School in Harvey by way of Indiana University, has averaged 40 catches for 12.4 yards and 42 punt returns for 9.5 yards during his four seasons with the Steelers. Randle El also would give the Bears a third-string quarterback on game days without using the active roster spot. His play in the Steelers' playoff run will drive up the price, but the Bears are in excellent salary-cap shape and have not shied from making decisive, big-money moves the last three off-seasons. The Bears also want another speed receiver to fortify a position that has Bernard Berrian and Mark Bradley, both of whom missed time with injuries in 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=45857 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Crap, didn't see that separate forum. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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