JDsDirtySox Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Just sitting around tonight thinking about prospects, and how people get pissed about including "can't miss prospects" in deals... don't forget about this yahoo. Brandon Phillips: One time super prospect of the Tribe is out of options, and most likely has no chance of staying on the big league roster. This guy calls himself "The Franchise"... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Phillips makes Willie look like a modest player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Wasn't Brandon Phillips all glove and no bat, then b****ed when they sent him back to AAA instead of working on his hitting because of his massive ego? Sounds similar to a certain middle infielder that the Sox once traded Chris Singleton for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Wasnt Alex Escobar one of the famous cant-miss prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 (edited) Sounds like our version of Joe Borchard, except that Borchard has a good shot of landing the last outfielder spot. I remember the massive amount of hype about this Phillips kid. Edited February 2, 2006 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 12:20 AM) Sounds like our version of Joe Borchard, sans ego. From all accounts Joe is one of the nicest guys in the organization, and I have never heard about him b****ing about being sent back down to the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 11:20 PM) Sounds like our version of Joe Borchard, except that Borchard has a good shot of landing the last outfielder spot. I remember the massive amount of hype about this Phillips kid. He was the key player in the Colon trade. A little less than 4 years later, Grady Sizemore and Cliff Lee are awesome, and Phillips doesn't have a spot on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 11:19 PM) Wasnt Alex Escobar one of the famous cant-miss prospects? He was a bigger prospect for the Mets. Came over to Cleveland in the Lawton deal and decided he would continue his injury prone ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Wasnt Alex Escobar one of the famous cant-miss prospects? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep, he was the Mets top prospect for 3 straight years. http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/featu...op10s/mets.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I wish there was a site I could visit where I could explore past trades and the players involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 sans ego. From all accounts Joe is one of the nicest guys in the organization, and I have never heard about him b****ing about being sent back down to the minors. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I just meant that he's a massive bust and is out of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 11:23 PM) I wish there was a site I could visit where I could explore past trades and the players involved. You can just go to baseballreference.com and look up a player and see all the deals he was involved in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Jon rauch has to be considered a bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 11:21 PM) He was a bigger prospect for the Mets. Came over to Cleveland in the Lawton deal and decided he would continue his injury prone ways. That trade occured prior to the 2002 season, and the Indians are still reaping benefits from it in the form of Jason Michaels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Kalapse's avatar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 12:25 AM) You can just go to baseballreference.com and look up a player and see all the deals he was involved in. Yeah, Im being whimsical though. Im thinking of a site where the trades are categorized by year and month, where you can just click on the trade and *poof*! There is the info on the trade. You know, something that no one would do because it wouldnt serve any real purpose other than to fuel our debates. But damn would that site be on my favorites in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Josh Hamilton Corey Patterson Rick Ankiel Ryan Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Kris Benson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Kris Benson <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not a bust. He was a #1 overall draft pick and he's no ace but he can still make the rotation of many teams. His wife is the bust, or the one with big busts. Now Scott Ruffcorn, he's a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Here is a great article from ESPN's Page 2 to add to the discussion. I look at alot of these names and just chuckle. http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/phenomflops.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Damn, I was just browsing through some players transaction lists on baseball-reference.com, and came across this gem for Gary Sheffield, I forgot about the magnitude of this trade: Gary Sheffield traded by the Florida Marlins with Manuel Barrios, Bobby Bonilla, Jim Eisenreich, and Charles Johnson to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Mike Piazza and Todd Zeile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Here is a great article from ESPN's Page 2 to add to the discussion. I look at alot of these names and just chuckle. http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/phenomflops.html <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 1. Todd Van Poppel The Atlanta Braves wanted to draft him No. 1 overall in 1990, but were wary of the bonus demands of a pitcher many scouts called the best high school prospect they'd ever seen. (Atlanta instead drafted Chipper Jones.) As for Van Poppel, he was drafted by Oakland and Baseball America rated him the best prospect in 1991, second-best in 1992, seventh-best in 1993 ... (see the trend there?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Others receiving votes Josh Booty, Damon Bailey, Toe Nash, Ryan Leaf, Tony Mandarich, Marcus Liberty, LaRue Martin, Ben McDonald. I used to live near Kane County Stadium and Josh Booty was the talk of the town when he was a Cougar(albeit briefly, even though he never even did much with the Cougars either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 QUOTE(rangercal @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 05:29 AM) Jon rauch has to be considered a bust I dont consider a guy a bust when its injury that basicly ruined his career..... Rauch can still pitch but he wasnt same after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Feb 2, 2006 -> 12:47 AM) Van Poppel, man he has to be one of the biggest busts of all-time. There was so much buzz around him in the late 80's early 90's. Then his career when like this: June 4, 1990: Drafted by the Oakland Athletics in the 1st round (14th pick) of the 1990 amateur draft. August 6, 1996: Selected off waivers by the Detroit Tigers from the Oakland Athletics. November 12, 1996: Selected off waivers by the Anaheim Angels from the Detroit Tigers. March 26, 1997: Released by the Anaheim Angels. April 17, 1997: Signed as a Free Agent with the Kansas City Royals. June 6, 1997: Released by the Kansas City Royals. June 20, 1997: Signed as a Free Agent with the Texas Rangers. July 17, 1998: Traded by the Texas Rangers with Warren Morris to the Pittsburgh Pirates for Esteban Loaiza. October 15, 1998: Granted Free Agency. January 18, 1999: Signed as a Free Agent with the Pittsburgh Pirates. October 15, 1999: Granted Free Agency. November 22, 1999: Signed as a Free Agent with the Chicago Cubs. November 5, 2001: Granted Free Agency. November 26, 2001: Signed as a Free Agent with the Texas Rangers for 2 yrs, $4.5 Million? June 4, 2003: Released by the Texas Rangers. June 12, 2003: Signed as a Free Agent with the Cincinnati Reds. November 2, 2003: Granted Free Agency. December 8, 2003: Signed as a Free Agent with the Cincinnati Reds. October 28, 2004: Granted Free Agency. February 14, 2005: Signed as a Free Agent with the New York Mets. - Hasn't played since 2004 with the Reds. Edited February 2, 2006 by RME JICO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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