Dukes Rankings

[DukeNukeEm]

well unless you actually gripe about something specific youre just b****ing.

[Heads22]

do you have a link Heads (Its not I dont believe, I just want to read more about it)?

 

f***.  I thought the guy was a really good player.

 

 

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll...401/1003/SPORTS

 

He's already comitted a felony. I'm glad he's gone.

[WHarris1]

well unless you actually gripe about something specific youre just b****ing.

When I have time I will be more specific.

[greasywheels121]

Matt Linehart is one hell of a DE.

[nitetrain8601]

I think LenDale will be the next Duece McCallister.

[witesoxfan]

I do the futures ranks just so I can rank them and of you morons who just read NFLDraftcountdown and read Mel f***in Kiper all day will reject it and make posts like that.

 

Scott Wright and Mel Kiper are probably the two most respected draft analysts in the friggin world. You wonder why people go to them and see what they have to say.

 

You called everyone here a moron that follows NFL Draft Countdown and/or Mel Kiper...in doing so, you are insulting people who perhaps are either using one of their best sources for their information/trying to learn more about how to judge players. That's a little over the top, don't you think?

[AirScott]

Scott Wright and Mel Kiper are probably the two most respected draft analysts in the friggin world.  You wonder why people go to them and see what they have to say.

 

You called everyone here a moron that follows NFL Draft Countdown and/or Mel Kiper...in doing so, you are insulting people who perhaps are either using one of their best sources for their information/trying to learn more about how to judge players.  That's a little over the top, don't you think?

I agree...Mel Kiper makes his career out of projecting the NFL Draft, he's watched these players play numerous times and has watching plenty of film on them. I have to say I trust his opinion over your's Duke.

[DukeNukeEm]

I dont watch "Film" the way those two experts do. They watch it to scout the effectiveness of a player. I watch it because I like to watch Football.

 

If I already know the outcome of a game, I cant bear it. I have to be able to be on some sort of edge as to who is going to win. After the Rose Bowl this year, I wont be able to make it through 1 game because I'll have known who won and the whole thing will be boring for me.

 

I watch the game and usually my side will change, I'll root for one team, and some player will make me change sides. I do it like 10 times throughout a game (unless I'm actually there, then I always root for the home team.. unless its like IU, SIU or some other team I really like thats away.). UTEP v. UAB was the biggest example ever. I love UTEP and I love UAB.. I switched sides almost every play.

 

It keeps me going, and you basically end up rooting for the dawg, but I think by doing that you fidn the best players. Objective "Film" analysis is boring and reptitive. Leave it to the coaches, not the scouts.

 

You also get the best look at a player in person, thats why Lienarts so low.

[Palehosefan]

I'll take a stab at it again.

 

QB

1. Vince Young Texas

2. Matt Lienart USC

3. Jay Culter Vanderbilt

4. Charlie Whitehurst Clemson

5. Omar Jacobs BGU

6. Brodie Croyle Alabama

7. Reggie McNeal Texas A&M

8. Justin Holland CSU

9. Barrick Nealy Texas State

10. Bruce Eugene Grambling St.

 

RB

1. Reggie Bush USC

2. DeAngelo Williams Memphis

3. LenDale White USC

4. Laurence Maroney Minnesota

5. Brian Calhoun Wisconsin

6. Jerome Harrison Wash. St.

7. Jerious Norwood Miss. St

8. Gerald Riggs Jr. Tennessee

9. Joeseph Addai LSU

10. Terrence Whitehead Oregon

 

TE

1. Vernon Davis Maryland

2. Leonard Pope Georgia

3. Joe Kloepfenstein Colorado

4. Marcedes Lewis UCLA

5. Dominique Byrd USC

6. TJ Williams NC State

7. Anthony Fasano Notre Dame

8. David Thomas Texas

9. Jeff King VA Tech

10. Tim Day Oregon

 

WR

1. Sinorice Moss Miami

2. Martin Nance Miami (OH)

3. Santonio Holmes Ohio State

4. Chad Jackson Florida

5. Brandon Williams Wisconsin

6. Hank Baskett New Mexico

7. Derek Hagan ASU

8. Demetrius Williams Oregon

9. Jason Avant Michigan

10. Mike Hass Oregon St.

 

T

1. D'Brickashaw Ferguson Virginia

2. Winston Justice USC

3. Marcus McNiell Auburn

4. Jeremy Trueblood Boston College

5. Jon Scott Texas

6. Eric Winston Miami

7. Darryn Colledge Boise State

8. Andrew Whitworth LSU

9. Ryan O'Callaghan Cal

10. Troy Reddick Auburn

 

G

1. Max Jean-Gilles Georgia

2. Taitusi Lutui USC

3. Charles Spencer Pitt.

4. Davin Joeseph Oklahoma

5. Will Allen Texas

6. Fred Matua USC

7. Jason Spitz Louisville

8. Aaron Lips LA Tech

9. Mark Setterstrom Minnesota

10. Rob Sims Ohio State

 

C

1. Greg Eslinger Minnesota

2. Nick Mangold Ohio State

3. Mike Degory Florida

4. David Castillo FSU

5. Ryan Cook New Mexico

 

DE

1. Mario Williams NC State

2. Tamba Hali Penn State

3. Victor Adeyanju Indiana

4. Mathias Kiwanuka Boston College

5. Eric Henderson GA Tech

6. Daryl Tapp VT

7. Ray Edwards Purdue

8. Kamerion Wimbley FSU

 

DT

1. Haloti Ngata Oregon

2. Orien Harris Miami

3. John McCargo NC St.

4. Gabe Watson Michigan

5. Claude Wroten LSU

6. Rod Wright Texas

7. Broderick Bunkley FSU

8. Jesse Maholena Tennessee

9. Kyle Williams LSU

10. John Williams VA Tech

 

OLB

1. Manny Lawson NC St.

2. AJ Hawk Ohio State

3. Ernie Sims FSU

4. Chad Greenway Iowa

5. DeMeco Ryans Alabama

6. Thomas Howard UTEP

7. AJ Nicholsen FSU

8. Elvis Dumervil Louisville

 

MLB

1. D'Qwell Jackson Maryland

2. Bobby Carpenter OSU

3. Abdul Hodge Iowa

4. Kai Parham Virginia

5. Gerris Wilkinson GA Tech

6. Oliver Hoyte NC St.

7. Freddie Roach Alabama

8. Anthony Schlegel Ohio State

9. Justin London UCLA

 

CB

1. Antonio Cromartie FSU

2. Kelly Jennings Miami

3. Tye Hill Clemson

4. Ashton Youbouty Ohio State

5. Danieal Manning Alibene Christian

6. Richard Marshall Fresno St.

2. Charles Gordon Kansas

8. Alan Zemaitis Penn State

9. Anwar Phillips Penn State

10. Derrick Martin Wyoming

 

 

S

1. Micheal Huff Texas

2. Darnell Bing USC

3. Jimmy Williams VT

3. Ko Simpson S. Carolina

4. Jason Allen Tennessee

5. Greg Blue Georgia

6. Roman Harper Alabama

7. Donte Whitner Ohio State

8. Pat Watkins FSU

9. Nate Salley Ohio State

10. Bernard Pollard Purdue

[DukeNukeEm]

WTF is Bobby Carpenter doing in the Middle? I dont see how that makes any sense... the guy is the prototypical 3-4 OLB... he might be better than Manny Lawson there!

[DukeNukeEm]

Oh, look at Micheal Huff.. watch the Rose Bowl again or something (its actually still kinda exciting..).. does he look like a Safety? No. He looks like a CB.

[DukeNukeEm]

Im getting new ideas as I read this thing :

 

You forgot Mo Stovall just like I did...

 

Riggs never lived up the HS Hype (next Eddie George was it?.. or Emmitt Smith, I'm too young to remember), get Omar Jacobs out of here, stay in school another and beat up on Mid-Level competition. (Wisconsin does NOT count, they had to put Joe Thomas at DT)

 

Trueblood < Scott. Landslide, poor Lawrence Jackson and Rucker, they stood no chance.

 

The Penn State duo gets no love whatsoever, but I expect that, and Jimmy Williams ranked in the top 5 of anything makes me sick.

 

Hawk is probably the best defensive player in this draft (minus AZ, but I KNOW I'm alone on that one, I see a lot in him.)

 

Manny Lawson will rocket up the board, because he is a workout warrior, Pro Comparison? Screamin Shawne Merriman. The D'Qwell woulda been John McCargo, but uhh he declared.

 

I like Moss being high, hes a solid player.

 

Boo to Lienart > Culter, but at least Vince is #1.

 

Marcedes did win the bets NCAA TE award, I mean he isnt hte freak of Pope and Davis, but he is better than Kleopeagdsgjalkgj. You underrate Jeff King, but so do I.

[Palehosefan]

1. Bobby Carpenter doesn't have the speed for an OLB. I'm really doubting he's going to run a 40 in the high 4.5's like his numbers show. Would be an intimidating presence in the middle.

 

2. Huff looks very much like a safety. He has a nose for the ball, and while he's not Ronnie Lott, like Mel Kiper believes, he's a very sure tackler. Doesn't have the best hips in the world, which would lead to a safety position in the NFL.

[Palehosefan]

You forgot Mo Stovall just like I did...

I thought about him, but he still doesn't do as much as he should with his size and speed, top 50 recruit coming out, and only finally produced last year.

 

Riggs never lived up the HS Hype (next Eddie George was it?.. or Emmitt Smith, I'm too young to remember), get Omar Jacobs out of here, stay in school another and beat up on Mid-Level competition. (Wisconsin does NOT count, they had to put Joe Thomas at DT)

Gerald was injury prone, but he played very well when healthy, especially last year when he rushed for over 1,100 yards on only 193 carries. Omar Jacobs didn't play the best competition, but neither did Ben Roethlisberger, Byron Leftwich, Daunte Culpepper, Steve McNair etc. Don't let that be your only argument.

 

Trueblood

Trueblood is a monster with a meanstreak, Scott is nice as well, but Trueblood could anchor a line at LT.

 

The Penn State duo gets no love whatsoever, but I expect that, and Jimmy Williams ranked in the top 5 of anything makes me sick.

PSU guys will be ok in the NFL, just not stars. Jimmy Williams is a heck of a talent, no matter how bad his attitude and all the other Hokies attitudes are.

 

Hawk is probably the best defensive player in this draft (minus AZ, but I KNOW I'm alone on that one, I see a lot in him.)

Hawk will be a star LB in the NFL, but Lawson is an absolute beast. He will be a true freak of nature at the OLB position, 4.4 speed, 45 inch vertical, sack machine.

 

Manny Lawson will rocket up the board, because he is a workout warrior, Pro Comparison? Screamin Shawne Merriman. The D'Qwell woulda been John McCargo, but uhh he declared.

Agree on Lawson, and McCargo left because the rest of the team decided to jump ship as well.

 

Boo to Lienart > Cutler, but at least Vince is #1.

Its close for Cutler and Lienart for me, both will be good NFL QB's, but Lienart's poise won the decision.

 

Marcedes did win the bets NCAA TE award, I mean he isnt hte freak of Pope and Davis, but he is better than Kleopeagdsgjalkgj. You underrate Jeff King, but so do I.

Kloepenstein really impressed me at the senior bowl. He's got more athletecism than I gave him credit for, and has very nice hands and good size. I think Mercedes will be a good weapon on offense, but his blocking and sometimes effort leave a little to be desired.

[DukeNukeEm]

When I have time I'll get back to you

[DukeNukeEm]

I thought about him, but he still doesn't do as much as he should with his size and speed, top 50 recruit coming out, and only finally produced last year.

 

He belong after the year hes had. I still think Samardizja's better, but he might play baseball.

 

Gerald was injury prone, but he played very well when healthy, especially last year when he rushed for over 1,100 yards on only 193 carries.

 

Injuries arent a good thing.. especially when you cant stay in healty in college.. how am I to trust he wont get hurt in the pros. Leave him off the ranks.

 

Omar Jacobs didn't play the best competition, but neither did Ben Roethlisberger, Byron Leftwich, Daunte Culpepper, Steve McNair etc. Don't let that be your onlyargument

 

Fine he throws like a wuss and even when he did play crappy competition he couldnt even win them any games. He is not Roeth, Byron, Daunte or McNair. Besides, with the 1st three (I was too young to remember McNairs drafting).. they were all graded out as 1st round picks and premeir talent, Omar Jacobs isnt.

 

PSU guys will be ok in the NFL, just not stars. Jimmy Williams is a heck of a talent, no matter how bad his attitude and all the other Hokies attitudes are

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.. Jimmy Williams is so overrated its sick, people always rave about his size and talent. Talk to a VT fan and he'll tell you how much he sucks, I perfer not to watch anymore of Thug Tech to be honest.

 

Oh, and regarding the Penn State guys.. they both will be awesome, but Zemaitis will be an NFL Superstar, he might turn out to be the defender in this years draft.

 

Hawk will be a star LB in the NFL, but Lawson is an absolute beast. He will be a true freak of nature at the OLB position, 4.4 speed, 45 inch vertical, sack machine.

 

I dont think theres a player in this draft who is as blue-collar LB type as AJ Hawk.

 

1. Hes ugly

2. Hes mean

3. Hes really good

 

I dont rave over 40 times, grab a stopwathc and try to land it on 4.4... then try to land it on 4.5.

 

To think that tiny little speck can massacre a guys stock or blow it through the roof.

[Felix]

Fine he throws like a wuss and even when he did play crappy competition he couldnt even win them any games.  He is not Roeth, Byron, Daunte or McNair.  Besides, with the 1st three (I was too young to remember McNairs drafting).. they were all graded out as 1st round picks and premeir talent, Omar Jacobs isnt.

lol, and yet you have nothing against Vince Young, who also throws like a wuss (despite what you say).

[DukeNukeEm]

lol, and yet you have nothing against Vince Young, who also throws like a wuss (despite what you say).

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Vince Young has an awkward release. Omar Jacobs throws like my mom.

[DukeNukeEm]

http://media.putfile.com/Vince-All-Star-Game

 

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does that speak enough for itself?

[AirScott]

http://media.putfile.com/Vince-All-Star-Game

 

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does that speak enough for itself?

not necessarily, no.

[DukeNukeEm]

not necessarily, no.

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I'd like to see Omar Jacobs do that