Felix Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Man, I saw Timo Perez on May 1, 2005. He was so goddamn good.. why did the White Sox let him go?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 That might explain something <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yea. Because its so easy to watch a Memphis game on TV... DeAngelo Williams is by far the hardest back to grade out, everybody makes up some BS like hes an All Purpose Back or something like that because its what he looks like. You'd think if he played on a stage like Memphis hed come off to be a player who's on a completely different level... he isnt. You watch Bush, LenDale, Maroney... who play on bigger stages against tougher competition and they still look like they are on a whole different level. I'd love to rank Williams down at like 6 behind Calhoun, but people would just be like "Oh, youre so stupid, Scott Wright has both Jimmy Williams AND DeAngelo Williams high on his rankings, you dont. Idiot" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Man, I saw Timo Perez on May 1, 2005. He was so goddamn good.. why did the White Sox let him go?! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I type in green because I have to have Sarcasm spoon-fed to me like an infantile retard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 You're just full of happiness, aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Feb 11, 2006 -> 12:09 PM) Yea. Because its so easy to watch a Memphis game on TV... DeAngelo Williams is by far the hardest back to grade out, everybody makes up some BS like hes an All Purpose Back or something like that because its what he looks like. You'd think if he played on a stage like Memphis hed come off to be a player who's on a completely different level... he isnt. You watch Bush, LenDale, Maroney... who play on bigger stages against tougher competition and they still look like they are on a whole different level. I'd love to rank Williams down at like 6 behind Calhoun, but people would just be like "Oh, youre so stupid, Scott Wright has both Jimmy Williams AND DeAngelo Williams high on his rankings, you dont. Idiot" Do you think you're the only one that watches CFB and everyone else just looks at what the experts think? If you do, then you've become what you seem to suddenly love to call everyone else. By the way, why do you think I'm "making up some BS" when I call him an All-Purpose back? When I watched him play, I saw some great receiving skills and some great blocking skills, which makes him an All-Purpose Back in my book. When the experts that you so despise (that have probably seen every prospect out there play more than the whole of this board combined) agreed with what my eyes were telling me, all it told me was that I didn't see a fluke, which the one game you watched may have been (even though he probably got well over 100 yards in the game). So, you say you don't want people to call you stupid because of the way your rankings, but you call others stupid because of the way their rankings because they don't agree with yours. Isn't that hypocrisy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Do you think you're the only one that watches CFB and everyone else just looks at what the experts think? If you do, then you've become what you seem to suddenly love to call everyone else. By the way, why do you think I'm "making up some BS" when I call him an All-Purpose back? When I watched him play, I saw some great receiving skills and some great blocking skills, which makes him an All-Purpose Back in my book. When the experts that you so despise (that have probably seen every prospect out there play more than the whole of this board combined) agreed with what my eyes were telling me, all it told me was that I didn't see a fluke, which the one game you watched may have been (even though he probably got well over 100 yards in the game). So, you say you don't want people to call you stupid because of the way your rankings, but you call others stupid because of the way their rankings because they don't agree with yours. Isn't that hypocrisy? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Feb 11, 2006 -> 11:18 PM) Great reply. I can tell you put a lot of thought into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 you have no idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Feb 11, 2006 -> 11:23 PM) Great reply. I can tell you put a lot of thought into that. He's from Wrigleyville. You are the company you keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 He's from Wrigleyville. You are the company you keep. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jokes you understand not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Feb 12, 2006 -> 11:27 AM) Jokes you understand not I should have typed that in green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 that wouldve succeeded in pissin me off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Feb 12, 2006 -> 11:45 AM) that wouldve succeeded in pissin me off Mommy, the big mean guy on the computer is really scaring me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Mommy, the big mean guy on the computer is really scaring me <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How about another tired internet geek cliche? Whats next? Internet Penis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Feb 13, 2006 -> 05:58 PM) How about another tired internet geek cliche? Whats next? Internet Penis? you're the one who brought up penis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Dixie Normus Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Feb 4, 2006 -> 12:03 PM) TE 1. Vernon Davis Maryland 2. Leonard Pope UGA 3. Dominique Byrd USC 4. Marcedes Lewis UCLA 5. Joe Klopfenstein Colorado 6. Anthony Fasano ND Sorry if this has been talked bout already but I would move Lewis up to number 2. He went off in the Senior Bowl and is who I am hoping the Bears get with the 26th pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 QUOTE(My Dixie Normus @ Mar 10, 2006 -> 12:02 AM) Sorry if this has been talked bout already but I would move Lewis up to number 2. He went off in the Senior Bowl and is who I am hoping the Bears get with the 26th pick. He went off in the Senior Bowl? I assume you mean that as a good thing. I didn't watch the game, but everything I heard was that he sucked it up during the entire week's practices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 QUOTE(My Dixie Normus @ Mar 9, 2006 -> 11:02 PM) Sorry if this has been talked bout already but I would move Lewis up to number 2. He went off in the Senior Bowl and is who I am hoping the Bears get with the 26th pick. No offense, chief, but there's not a snowball's chance in hell Lewis has moved up on the draft board. If anything, he continues to hurt himself, moving well behind Anthony Fasano at this point. He's far from the second best TE available. It's almost laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Dixie Normus Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 No offense, chief, but there's not a snowball's chance in hell Lewis has moved up on the draft board. If anything, he continues to hurt himself, moving well behind Anthony Fasano at this point. He's far from the second best TE available. It's almost laughable. No offense taken. Everyone is entitled to thier oppinion. Here are a few others. About.com 1. Vernon Davis*, Maryland 2. Leonard Pope*, Georgia 3. Marcedes Lewis, UCLA 4. Dominique Byrd, USC 5. Anthony Fasano*, Notre Dame 6. Joe Klopfenstein, Colorado 7. Owen Daniels, Wisconsin 8. Tim Day, Oregon 9. David Thomas, Texas 10. T.J. Williams, North Carolina State Footballsfuture.com Tight Ends 1. Vernon Davis, Maryland, Jr. 2. Marcedes Lewis, UCLA 3. Leonard Pope, Georgia Jr. 4. Dominique Byrd, USC 5. Anthony Fasano, Notre Dame NFLDraftCountdown.com 1. Vernon Davis Maryland 2. Leonard Pope Georgia 3. Marcedes Lewis U.C.L.A. 4. Dominique Byrd Southern Cal 5. Anthony Fasano Notre Dame DraftBoardInsider.com 1. Vernon Davis, Jr., Maryland 2. Marcedes Lewis, UCLA 3. Leonard Pope*, Georgia 4. Dominique Byrd, Southern California 5. Joe Klopfenstein, Colorado 6. Anthony Fasano*, Notre Dame Football.com 1. Marcedes Lewis, UCLA 2..Vernon Davis, Maryland 3 Leonard Pope, Georgia 4.Anthony Fasano, Notre Dame 5-Joel Klopfenstein, Colorado 6.Dominique Byrd, USC Just to name a few. Height: 6-6 3/8 | Weight: 261 | 40-Time: 4.84 Official Bio Strengths: Has excellent size with long arms and the frame to easily add more weight...A superb athlete with good quickness and leaping ability...Has outstanding hands and can adjust to the poorly thrown ball...Gives great effort as a blocker and does a better job there than he is given credit for...Has solid speed and can get down the middle and stretch the seam...Very productive and was the top pass catching threat on his team...Still developing and has a lot of upside. Weaknesses: May not have elite timed speed...Could stand to add some weight and looks frail on the field due to his lanky build...Lacks explosiveness and may have trouble separating at the next level...Needs to hit the weights and get stronger...Still relatively raw as he devoted a lot of attention to basketball in high school...Needs to refine his technique and master the nuances of the position. Notes: Was a part of the famed 2002 Long Beach Poly high school class that also included Winston Justice (USC), Darnell Bing (USC), Hershel Dennis (USC), and Manuel Wright (Miami Dolphins)...Is like a wide receiver trapped in a tight ends body...Not yet a finished product but could be the type of weapon in the passing game that pro teams are falling all over themselves to add these days. DraftDaddy.com Marcedes Lewis has very soft hands the size of catcher's mitts and is a fantastic target in the red zone - doesn't body catch at all. NFL.com Marcedes Lewis was to UCLA's passing game what Maurice Drew was to the running game. Concentration when catching the ball. … Makes good use of 6-6 frame, particularly on jump balls. … Good route-runner. … Solid blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 everything that ive heard about TE's it is 1. Vernon Davis.... no questions about that one. 2. Leonard Pope 3. Mercedes Lewis. although sometimes I see Lewis slip a couple spots more.... no where did I ever see him as 1. Thats after the Senior Bowl and combine a course where his draft status was damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 (edited) Lewis, who does project do be a starting TE in the league, has more than a few knocks on him at this point. -Speed (an awfully disappointing 4.84 40) -Blocking (whoever said he was a "solid blocker", I think it was your NFL.com link, needs to be fired. His blocking is well below-average and he does not project to get any better) -Consistently catch the easy ball (if you watched him in the Sun Bowl against NU, he was pathetic...that is not the type of player I want to grant a high draft selection) -Very raw/lacks technique (they say he's a WR trapped in a TE's body...and that's not always a good thing) This will get refined as we move closer to the draft, but my TE rankings now stand at: 1. Vernon Davis 2. Leonard Pope 3. Anthony Fasano 4. Marcedes Lewis 5. Dominique Byrd Edited March 11, 2006 by AddisonStSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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