Official Super Bowl Thread

[nitetrain8601]

incredibly boring game, commercials, and halftime show. And terrible announcing and annoying post/pre game...Worst superbowl ever.

 

I agree minus the boring game part. The officiating was putrid though. As a Bulls fan, I'm used to having calls not go my way, so I usually keep quiet now, but goddamn, these officals were flat out horrible.

 

Reasons why Seattle lost:

 

1)Refs - already explained why. Missed calls combined with calls that should've never been called and well damn, it sucks to be in Seattle right now.

 

2)Couldn't finish - Plain and simple, Seattle won this game in every statistical category but the W column. If somone saw that statline and had to guess who won, Seattle would've been picked 10 times out of 10. They drove on Pittsburgh's "great defense" all day long and then ended up getting penalties called on them(some true, some not) or they would just completely change up their strategy as soon as they got close to the red zone.

 

3)Clock Management - I'm not going to complain about the 2nd half, but the 1st half, they had no idea what they were doing. That's worth at least 3 points there.

 

4)Missed FG's - 2 to be exact in which Seattle would've only needed one score at the end to win.

 

BTW, Jerome Bettis just retired.

Edited February 6, 2006 by nitetrain8601

[Balta1701]

BTW, Jerome Bettis just retired.

Man, did that ref who threw the holding call on the Seattle Pass to the 1 give him a nice retirement present.

[Palehosefan]

Pittsburgh was outgained by a whopping 57 yards, and actually outgained Seattle on the ground by 44 yards, which is how the Steelers win.

 

As for the officiating. I'm honestly shocked to see all the outrage over it. The pass-interference that caused Seattle a TD was clearly a push-off, and RIGHT in front of the referree. The ref didn't even hesitate, he began pulling out the flag directly after he caught the ball. Another time Haggans was pulled down from behind by his collar, and I've seen people complaining over that, its amazing. Was the game pretty? Hell no. But there were atleast two missed helmet to helmet shots from Seattle in the game as well. It was just poorly officiated all the way around.

[whitesoxfan101]

Want a laugh? Go read the Seahawks scout board....they are calling Holmgren a hero for not shaking Cowher's hand, saying they hope the refs die in a plane crash on the way home, and saying the NFL rigged the game WWE style so the popular east coast team would win. It's a hilarious and over the top meltdown.

[whitesoxin']

Want a laugh? Go read the Seahawks scout board....they are calling Holmgren a hero for not shaking Cowher's hand, saying they hope the refs die in a plane crash on the way home, and saying the NFL rigged the game WWE style so the popular east coast team would win.  It's a hilarious and over the top meltdown.

Link?

[Gene Honda Civic]

Sort of like the Houston fans complaining about the roof?

[GoodAsGould]

I won 50 bucks My manager bothered me at work for 4 hours until i bought 3 squares or whatevr for 6 bucks and now i win 50 dollars im going to laugh at him now.

[Palehosefan]

http://www.thesuperbowlwasfixed.com/

[whitesoxfan101]

Sort of like the Houston fans complaining about the roof?

 

 

Exactly.

 

As as for the link, go to www.scout.com, click on the NFL portion, and then click on Seahawks.

[greasywheels121]

Randle El!

 

Big Ben!

 

Congrats Pittsburgh!

[whitesoxfan101]

I'm not saying the game was fixed, or that any were....but if any sport were going to fix the games, it would be the NFL. The ONLY reason that sport is so much more popular than the others is gambling, and for them to cater to Vegas would not surprise me in the least.

[Palehosefan]

You should see the Steelers boards as well, I can't tell you how many times I've had to bring this out.

 

[Balta1701]

Want a laugh? Go read the Seahawks scout board....they are calling Holmgren a hero for not shaking Cowher's hand, saying they hope the refs die in a plane crash on the way home, and saying the NFL rigged the game WWE style so the popular east coast team would win.  It's a hilarious and over the top meltdown.

If I was a Seahawks fan, or had money riding on the game, I might be at that level too. Well, except for the dying in the plane crash part. That's crossing the line.

 

But like I said...the refs HANDED the Steelers that game. I was quite actively rooting for the Seahawks in the 4th quarter just because I didn't want the game to be decided on a pair of incredibly bad game-changing calls within a few seconds. But it turned out that it was.

 

At least the Puppy Bowl seems to have been a fair contest.

[whitesoxfan101]

The Eastern Seaboard Programming Network postgame has YET to even COME CLOSE to mentioning the horrid refs, which is obviously part of the story in this game. The dick sucking ESPN does to all the sports is pretty sick, they just try not to even mention controversial things ever.

[Palehosefan]

Lofa Tatupu just admitted the Steelers were the better team. Pretty crazy when Seahawks players can admit it, but fans can't.

[Balta1701]

I'm not saying the game was fixed, or that any were....but if any sport were going to fix the games, it would be the NFL.  The ONLY reason that sport is so much more popular than the others is gambling, and for them to cater to Vegas would not surprise me in the least.

Roughly $2.2 billion was estimated before the game to have been changing hands today through gambling nationwide.

 

Had the Refs given the Steelers that Hasselbeck fumble...Hell I might have been agreeing that the game was rigged. I just think they did a horrific job and made 2 bad calls at the worst possible time for the Seahawks, and made almost no bad calls that went against the Steelers. These things seem to happen...the Refs were pretty bad in the Pats/Broncos game, pretty bad in the Steelers/Colts game, etc. Sometimes you just get a bad year. At least they got the coin toss right.

[nitetrain8601]

Pittsburgh was outgained by a whopping 57 yards, and actually outgained Seattle on the ground by 44 yards, which is how the Steelers win.

 

As for the officiating. I'm honestly shocked to see all the outrage over it. The pass-interference that caused Seattle a TD was clearly a push-off, and RIGHT in front of the referree. The ref didn't even hesitate, he began pulling out the flag directly after he caught the ball. Another time Haggans was pulled down from behind by his collar, and I've seen people complaining over that, its amazing. Was the game pretty? Hell no. But there were atleast two missed helmet to helmet shots from Seattle in the game as well. It was just poorly officiated all the way around.

 

I disagree strongly. They missed big time calls that would've changed the outcome of the game.

 

 

1)Pass Interference call on Darrell Jackson. Very ticky-tack. Only 1 announcer out of like 10 said it was Pass Interference. What really pissed me off about this call is that the ref didn't call it until Pitt's DB started complaining. It was the definition of a late call.

 

2)Holding call on the Seahawks in which Hasselbeck completed a pass to Jeremy Stevens that put them at the 1-yard line. When looking at the replay, John Madden even mentioned, "I don't see the holding. There may have been holding on that play, but it sure as heck wasn't by the guy they called it on."

 

3)Ben Roethlisberger's TD run. He was stopped short. Replays showed that the ball never broke the plane. What's even worse about this is that the ref told Holmgren while heading to the tunnel for the half that he didn't think Ben got in. The ref is the one who makes the call. If you don't think he got in, you don't make the call he made. You overturn the call and it's 4th down. He didn't say he thought it was "inconclusive" he said he thought Ben didn't make it.

 

4)Horse-collar tackle by Mr. Big Mouth, Jerry Porter. A horsecollar tackle is supposed to be a 10 or 15 yard penalty automatically added onto a catch. Seattle gained around 7 yards on that play I think and calling that penalty would've added 15 more yards which would've been an automatic first and better field position. Seattle was already driving.

 

5)The 15 yard penalty on the illegal chop-blocking/holding on Matt Hasselbeck after the interception. Matt Hasselbeck clearly went for the guy who had the ball and he's the only one he touched. For some reason though, the refs don't see it that way(it was pretty easy to tell) and 15 yards are added on after Pitt's already at the 35 yard line.

[Buehrle>Wood]

I'm watching the puppy bowl right now. The half-time show was pretty fun at first, but it's been on way too long now...

[Gene Honda Civic]

I'm watching the puppy bowl right now.  The half-time show was pretty fun at first, but it's been on way too long now...

So it's just like the actual Super Bowl halftime show then?

[Balta1701]

Lofa Tatupu just admitted the Steelers were the better team. Pretty crazy when Seahawks players can admit it, but fans can't.

Well, he is right to some extent...the Steelers did get some plays past that defense that they should have stopped if they wanted to win (Parker, 'Twaan). They didn't stop those plays, so they lost.

 

I still would have liked to see who would have been the better team in a fairly officiated game.

[lord chas]

hochuli should have been the ref

[Balta1701]

So it's just like the actual Super Bowl halftime show then?

Well...let's see, they brought out a bunch of kittens for the Puppy Bowl half time. The NFL brought out a bunch of mummies which were apparentely preserved in ice for several years.

 

Bring the kitties back out in like 18 years, and then yeah, it'll be exactly like the Super Bowl halftime show.

[whitesoxfan101]

Roughly $2.2 billion was estimated before the game to have been changing hands today through gambling nationwide.

 

Had the Refs given the Steelers that Hasselbeck fumble...Hell I might have been agreeing that the game was rigged.  I just think they did a horrific job and made 2 bad calls at the worst possible time for the Seahawks, and made almost no bad calls that went against the Steelers.  These things seem to happen...the Refs were pretty bad in the Pats/Broncos game, pretty bad in the Steelers/Colts game, etc.  Sometimes you just get a bad year.  At least they got the coin toss right.

 

Good points. Also, the NFL is the one league arrogant enough to fix a game IMO with their holier than thou attitude about their "great league" and it's popularity, fueled by gambling. Plus, the NFL seems to always cater to the popular teams (see: coin toss) and all that money changing hands just is too damn tempting to not try and mess with.

[Balta1701]

I disagree strongly. They missed big time calls that would've changed the outcome of the game.

1)Pass Interference call on Darrell Jackson. Very ticky-tack. Only 1 announcer out of like 10 said it was Pass Interference. What really pissed me off about this call is that the ref didn't call it until Pitt's DB started complaining. It was the definition of a late call.

 

2)Holding call on the Seahawks in which Hasselbeck completed a pass to Jeremy Stevens that put them at the 1-yard line. When looking at the replay, John Madden even mentioned, "I don't see the holding. There may have been holding on that play, but it sure as heck wasn't by the guy they called it on."

 

3)Ben Roethlisberger's TD run. He was stopped short. Replays showed that the ball never broke the plane. What's even worse about this is that the ref told Holmgren while heading to the tunnel for the half that he didn't think Ben got in. The ref is the one who makes the call. If you don't think he got in, you don't make the call he made. You overturn the call and it's 4th down. He didn't say he thought it was "inconclusive" he said he thought Ben didn't make it.

 

4)Horse-collar tackle by Mr. Big Mouth, Jerry Porter. A horsecollar tackle is supposed to be a 10 or 15 yard penalty automatically added onto a catch. Seattle gained around 7 yards on that play I think and calling that penalty would've added 15 more yards which would've been an automatic first and better field position. Seattle was already driving.

 

5)The 15 yard penalty on the illegal chop-blocking/holding on Matt Hasselbeck after the interception. Matt Hasselbeck clearly went for the guy who had the ball and he's the only one he touched. For some reason though, the refs don't see it that way(it was pretty easy to tell) and 15 yards are added on after Pitt's already at the 35 yard line.

I would change the order slightly...because I think that the replays on Roethlisberger's touchdown were about as conclusive as the Replays on AJ taking first base (There are 2 scenes which are just too damn fuzzy, with the ball buried in Ben's arms - it may very well have slightly crossed while the tip was out of view). I flip-flop your #'s 3 and 5, but otherwise, you're right on.

[Palehosefan]

1)Pass Interference call on Darrell Jackson. Very ticky-tack. Only 1 announcer out of like 10 said it was Pass Interference. What really pissed me off about this call is that the ref didn't call it until Pitt's DB started complaining. It was the definition of a late call.

 

Watch the replay again, you can clearly see the ref starting to pull it out directly after the catch, he just has trouble getting it out.

 

2)Holding call on the Seahawks in which Hasselbeck completed a pass to Jeremy Stevens that put them at the 1-yard line. When looking at the replay, John Madden even mentioned, "I don't see the holding. There may have been holding on that play, but it sure as heck wasn't by the guy they called it on."

 

That is one call that I didn't see either.

 

3)Ben Roethlisberger's TD run. He was stopped short. Replays showed that the ball never broke the plane. What's even worse about this is that the ref told Holmgren while heading to the tunnel for the half that he didn't think Ben got in. The ref is the one who makes the call. If you don't think he got in, you don't make the call he made. You overturn the call and it's 4th down. He didn't say he thought it was "inconclusive" he said he thought Ben didn't make it.

 

Watching the replay, you can see about 1-2 inches that broke the line of the goal. There's no definitive proof that it wasn't a touchdown either, which is what need to be shown on video. The ball was either over the line, or less than an inch away, nothing conclusive at all.

 

4)Horse-collar tackle by Mr. Big Mouth, Jerry Porter. A horsecollar tackle is supposed to be a 10 or 15 yard penalty automatically added onto a catch. Seattle gained around 7 yards on that play I think and calling that penalty would've added 15 more yards which would've been an automatic first and better field position. Seattle was already driving.

 

Wasn't a horsecollar, he grabbed him down by the shoulder pad, not the neck lining.

 

5)The 15 yard penalty on the illegal chop-blocking/holding on Matt Hasselbeck after the interception. Matt Hasselbeck clearly went for the guy who had the ball and he's the only one he touched. For some reason though, the refs don't see it that way(it was pretty easy to tell) and 15 yards are added on after Pitt's already at the 35 yard line.

 

That was an odd call, but Matt didn't really even try to make the tackle, he just flung his body down towards the ground and didn't even look at the ball carrier the whole time. Call didn't need to be made, but he clearly wasn't focusing on the ball carrier and was closer to tackling the blockers than the ballcarrier, luckily for him his feet tripped up the runner.