SSH2005 Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 I'm not saying that. I'm saying his decline started when he collided with Bellhorn. No doubt in my mind he was a juicer. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sosa's decline started when he got nailed in the head by Solomon Torres of the Pirates. The pitch shattered Sosa's helmet and from then on he stood a mile away from the plate. That and the inability to use steroids anymore is what made his numbers crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Feb 17, 2006 -> 01:56 PM) Sosa's decline started when he got nailed in the head by Solomon Torres of the Pirates. The pitch shattered Sosa's helmet and from then on he stood a mile away from the plate. That and the inability to use steroids anymore is what made his numbers crap. DINGDINGDINGDING!!! We have a WINNAHHHHHH!!!!! That helmet-shatter from Torres f***ed SamME's mind up for good. He chicken-s***ted at the back corner of the batter's box from then on. Throw him inside heat and then curve, curve, curve, sit down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 lol I remember how El Duque threw nothing but sliders down and away to Sammy and Sosa struck out twice! You throw him junk down and away and he’ll go after it. What made me laugh is that when Orlando struck out Sammy he got off the mound with such an energetic manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Clemens threw nothing but high fastballs. Don't minimize Sammy's abilities -- he had a million different ways of striking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 18, 2006 -> 08:26 PM) Don't minimize Sammy's abilities -- he had a million different ways of striking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samclemens Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 18, 2006 -> 10:26 PM) Clemens threw nothing but high fastballs. Don't minimize Sammy's abilities -- he had a million different ways of striking out. very good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 18, 2006 -> 09:26 PM) Clemens threw nothing but high fastballs. Don't minimize Sammy's abilities -- he had a million different ways of striking out. LMAO! Sammy had some statistically monstrous seasons but I will never give him any credit for his supposed accomplishments. When he came to the Sox he was an incredibly gifted athlete who had every tool possible. He could hit a home run, steal a base, run down a ball in the corner and throw the ball on the fly to home plate. Some even dared to compare him to Clemente. Unfortunately, he also frequently missed the cutoff man and sometimes airmailed it to the fans behind home. He never listened to coaches and swung at everything. He created a handful of cliches that he repeated over and over again and the naive northside fan base ate it up. He is nothing more than an amature street hustler con artist. My lasting image of the true Sammy Sosa will always be a swing and a miss at a curve low and away in the dirt. I just hope that all 30 teams are smart enough to keep their distance and keep this bum retired for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 QUOTE(Beltin'Bill @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 10:07 PM) LMAO! Sammy had some statistically monstrous seasons but I will never give him any credit for his supposed accomplishments. When he came to the Sox he was an incredibly gifted athlete who had every tool possible. He could hit a home run, steal a base, run down a ball in the corner and throw the ball on the fly to home plate. Some even dared to compare him to Clemente. Unfortunately, he also frequently missed the cutoff man and sometimes airmailed it to the fans behind home. He never listened to coaches and swung at everything. He created a handful of cliches that he repeated over and over again and the naive northside fan base ate it up. He is nothing more than an amature street hustler con artist. My lasting image of the true Sammy Sosa will always be a swing and a miss at a curve low and away in the dirt. I just hope that all 30 teams are smart enough to keep their distance and keep this bum retired for good. You've got him pegged perfectly. In addition to what you said, he had so much promise when he came over from Texas. But, he decided he wanted personal glory as opposed to being a great baseball player. He made the wrong choice, a few wrong choices, and now he's a pariah instead of being held in reverence as one of the all time greats. He's one of those "What could have been" type guys that was never smart enough to figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/NASApp...t=.jsp&c_id=was Sosa rejects another Nationals offer Slugger turns down one-year, $1 million non-guaranteed deal VIERA, Fla. -- Last week, agent Adam Katz said that his client, outfielder Sammy Sosa, was pondering retirement. Katz went so far as to say that Sosa most likely would not be in a baseball uniform in 2006 after the slugger rejected a $500,000 non-guaranteed Major League contract from the Nationals. But for a time after Katz made that statement, Sosa had a change of heart and considered signing with the Nationals, according to multiple sources. But he rejected the offer again Tuesday night. Talks had been ongoing even after Sosa turned down the offer the first time. Washington was still offering a non-guaranteed Major League deal, but, according to one of the sources, the Nationals offered Sosa $1 million -- non-guaranteed -- if he made the club out of Spring Training. That's $500,000 more than the Nationals offered last week. "One minute he says yes, another time he says no," the source said early on Tuesday. The Nationals originally offered Sosa a Minor League deal with an invitation to Spring Training. Sosa rejected that offer, believing that he shouldn't be treated like a journeyman. The Nationals later improved the deal by offering a one-year, $500,000 non-guaranteed Major League contract. Katz declined to talk about the most recent negotiations, but he said to refer to his comments last week regarding Sosa most likely not playing in 2006. The veteran will not be put on the voluntary retirement list. There were concerns among the Nationals' think tank whether Sosa's skills have eroded. Another source said he would like to see Washington concentrate more on its young outfielders like Marlon Byrd, Ryan Church and Brandon Watson, who are battling for the center-field job. Sosa is coming off the worst season of his career, hitting .221 with 14 home runs and 45 RBIs, including two stints on the disabled list in 2005 with Baltimore. Sosa's last good season was in 2003, when he hit .279 with 40 home runs and 103 RBIs for the Cubs. Sosa was one of the most prolific sluggers in recent memory. He has 588 home runs -- fifth most in Major League history -- 1,575 RBIs and a .274 career batting average. His best years were with the Cubs. Sosa had three seasons of 60 or more home runs, and he won the National League Most Valuable Player Award in 1998. General manager Jim Bowden could not be reached for comment, but it's not a secret that the Nationals looked at Sosa as Spring Training insurance in case Jose Guillen's injured left shoulder has not fully recovered or if Alfonso Soriano continues to refuse to play the outfield. Soriano may also play in the World Baseball Classic, which would keep him away from camp during the tournament. If Sosa made the team, the Nationals could have had an outfield of Soriano in center and Guillen and Sosa at the corner positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuck the Cubs Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 WOW. He must be really greedy to want a guarenteed deal. When the season ended, in Sept., I figured the best he'd get would be a minor-league deal w/ an invite to ST, with a chance to prove himself worthy of the MLB roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 18, 2006 -> 06:54 PM) lol I remember how El Duque threw nothing but sliders down and away to Sammy and Sosa struck out twice! You throw him junk down and away and he’ll go after it. What made me laugh is that when Orlando struck out Sammy he got off the mound with such an energetic manner. LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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