Phuck the Cubs Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) Who would you rather have taken? He was a member of the all-rookie 1st-team. And another thing: We need to play Jannero Pargo more. Edited February 10, 2006 by Cuck the Fubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 09:47 PM) Gettiing back on topic somewhat, do you guys think we should draft J.J. Reddick this summer? In the second round if he's available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 10:50 PM) I'd take him over Kaman. And you would expect the 7th player picked to be ranked between 5-7 among those players, no? You'd think so, but historically it's not really the case. I saw something on success rate a while ago, and I think the success rate for like the 24th pick was as high as it is for the 4th pick (or something like that, don't remember the exact numbers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 09:50 PM) I'd take him over Kaman. And you would expect the 7th player picked to be ranked between 5-7 among those players, no? Kaman keeps playing like this... and i think he will get into the 15-10.5- 2.5 range i would probally take him over hinrich. Double doubles are hard to come by and he of course shoots a much better percentage. He can just be an ugly mean bastard defensively too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 09:52 PM) You'd think so, but historically it's not really the case. I saw something on success rate a while ago, and I think the success rate for like the 24th pick was as high as it is for the 4th pick (or something like that, don't remember the exact numbers). Yes but the players picked above Hinrich were all great picks that seemed like sure things. Most people would have expect Hinrich to be worse than Bron, Melo, Wade, and Bosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 The threes need to start dropping like right this f***ing second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(q\/\/3r+y @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 09:47 PM) Or because he plays 42 minutes a game shoots 48%... shoots a similar percentage on threes... seven rebounds per game... 6.5 assists per game ( same as hinrich)... he turns it over once more per game but he has the ball in his hands nearly twice per game because of their offense... third in the league per points... 1.63 steals + .88 blocks per game. The dude has an all around game. His defense is not top notch but that is because he gets lazy defensively at times because he goes so hard on the offensive side of the floor. To say he doesn't play defense is moronic... but you are content with arguably the worst player out of the first seven picks. Lebron's defense could be absolutely amazing if he ever commits to it. And he already is one of the best offensive and all around players in the league. Anyone who doesn't see that is crazy. But you can't make an argument that Hinrich is the worst of the 7 picks as Darko as played about 3 minutes in his career so far. But obviously Hinrich is not at the level of Carmelo, LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and Kaman is looking great lately. Probably would but Hinrich 6th, and there are players taken behind him who are either at his level or above him in TJ Ford, Boris Diaw, and David West. Out of all the years to not have a top 5 draft choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuck the Cubs Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 On to the game... The Bulls are down 13-7 w/ 4 minutes left in the 1st quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 10:50 PM) I'd take him over Kaman. And you would expect the 7th player picked to be ranked between 5-7 among those players, no? And if you look at like the next 15 (or more) picks, there's nobody else that's better. It was a good pick at that spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Would be nice if the Bulls would grab a rebound and maybe hit a shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 09:54 PM) Lebron's defense could be absolutely amazing if he ever commits to it. And he already is one of the best offensive and all around players in the league. Anyone who doesn't see that is crazy. But you can't make an argument that Hinrich is the worst of the 7 picks as Darko as played about 3 minutes in his career so far. But obviously Hinrich is not at the level of Carmelo, LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and Kaman is looking great lately. Probably would but Hinrich 6th, and there are players taken behind him who are either at his level or above him in TJ Ford, Boris Diaw, and David West. Out of all the years to not have a top 5 draft choice. Going by potential i see hinrich as the worst of the bunch. Of course i am still a big darko fan and really like what kaman brings to the table. It does amaze me how we had top picks in all the wrong years... well we did get brand but he didn't like it here anyway. He was leaving as soon as he could via free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 10:54 PM) Lebron's defense could be absolutely amazing if he ever commits to it. And he already is one of the best offensive and all around players in the league. Anyone who doesn't see that is crazy. But you can't make an argument that Hinrich is the worst of the 7 picks as Darko as played about 3 minutes in his career so far. But obviously Hinrich is not at the level of Carmelo, LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and Kaman is looking great lately. Probably would but Hinrich 6th, and there are players taken behind him who are either at his level or above him in TJ Ford, Boris Diaw, and David West. Out of all the years to not have a top 5 draft choice. darko, ford, diaw, or west would not have come in and helped the Bulls like Kirk did...Who will be better in the long run remains to be seen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I think Lebron's biggest problem on d is he doesn't have very good lateral movement. That's surpring when you consider how athletically gifted he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 09:58 PM) darko, ford, diaw, or west would not have come in and helped the Bulls like Kirk did...Who will be better in the long run remains to be seen... Didn't say they would have. But its not like Hinrich has led the Bulls anywhere although that obviously isn't his fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 09:56 PM) And if you look at like the next 15 (or more) picks, there's nobody else that's better. It was a good pick at that spot. He is arguing that hinrich is a better player than lebron f***ing james... the same guy who will go down as one of the best players ever and probally the greatest of the decade. Just retarded to me. I am not arguing that it was a bad pick btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(q\/\/3r+y @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 10:57 PM) well we did get brand but he didn't like it here anyway. He was leaving as soon as he could via free agency. Proof? Oh, or maybe it's just speculation...He said he would have stayed as recently as yesterday in the trib... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 Dunk it gordon cheesus lice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 10:59 PM) Didn't say they would have. But its not like Hinrich has led the Bulls anywhere although that obviously isn't his fault. Playoffs last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetney.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 09:59 PM) Proof? Oh, or maybe it's just speculation...He said he would have stayed as recently as yesterday in the trib... It was all over the place that he wanted out and never liked the directiont he bulls were going in. If you do not recal or believe it that's fine. Looking for ''proof'' is high on my list of things to do at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 09:59 PM) Proof? Oh, or maybe it's just speculation...He said he would have stayed as recently as yesterday in the trib... That's not what I read 5 years ago. I remember reading him saying that he couldn't take all the losing. He never came out himself and said he wanted out. But his agent and those close to him all said he was gone the first chance he got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 10:00 PM) Playoffs last year? Sorry, I've never felt making the playoffs in the NBA is really that great of an accomplishment. For recent Bulls teams it is and I'll give him some credit for that, but a 1st round exit and right back to mediocrity isn't really leading a team somewhere IMO. Hinrich was the right pick at that slot though and I'm not going to argue otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 11:04 PM) Sorry, I've never felt making the playoffs in the NBA is really that great of an accomplishment. For recent Bulls teams it is and I'll give him some credit for that, but a 1st round exit and right back to mediocrity isn't really leading a team somewhere IMO. Hinrich was the right pick at that slot though and I'm not going to argue otherwise. Fair enough, but he was an integral part of them getting the 3rd best record in the East. It wasn't a 7-8 seed one-and-done. You just can't blame him for this year. It was almost expected when you consider there is no real post presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Bulls down 9 after one. Yay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 11:04 PM) Sorry, I've never felt making the playoffs in the NBA is really that great of an accomplishment. For recent Bulls teams it is and I'll give him some credit for that, but a 1st round exit and right back to mediocrity isn't really leading a team somewhere IMO. Hinrich was the right pick at that slot though and I'm not going to argue otherwise. That's definitely true. When more than half of the teams in the league make the playoffs, a first round out isn't all that impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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