iWiN4PreP Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) 12 team yahoo public league : C V. Martinez 1b D. Ortiz 2b R. Weeks SS J. Reyes 3b M. Mora OF S podsednik, V. Wells, J. Dye, J. Lane, Bench : M. Sweeney, C. Barmes, B. Wilkerson SP : R. Harden, F. Garcia, Z. Duke, J. Bonderman, S. Kazmir, E. Santana RP : C. Cordero, B. Jenks, J. Rincon. What do you rate it? Thanks. Edited February 18, 2006 by iWiN4PreP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 looks like you took some risks, kazmir, e santana, duke but not bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 You got Barmes on the bench but Reyes starting? Barmes plays in Coors, which will bolster his stats, especially hitting in front of Helton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 QUOTE(Felix @ Feb 18, 2006 -> 09:14 AM) You got Barmes on the bench but Reyes starting? Barmes plays in Coors, which will bolster his stats, especially hitting in front of Helton. At this point I'd say that Reyes is going to be a much more productive player than Barmes this year. Reyes is going to hit .280, 10 HR, 100 R, 60 RBI, 60 SB. Barmes on the other hand is comming off a surious injury which forced him to miss a lot of the year last season, we don't really know what kind of player he is. He started off the year incredibly hot hitting around .380 for the first part of the year then he tapered off big time after he fell down the stairs. Reyes is better bet, I don't see how you can put Barmes ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted February 18, 2006 Author Share Posted February 18, 2006 thanks for the input guys im hoping that i can catch this years "star" sp / rp that comes outta nowhere and drop rincon for him, then id have a very solid team IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) I'm not overly thrilled with the team. I personally don't surport drafting a catcher early, especially Martinez. He just doesn't give you the same production as other high picks. It was one thing when Piazza was a monster, but Martinez is probably going to produce something like 80-20-90-.300. That's just not worth a pick in the first 4 rounds. He's almost certainly going to finish out of the top 100 rated players, and probably won't be much better than most other catchers. Ortiz and Weeks were solid picks. Pods and Reyes give you good speed, although I probably wouldn't have drafted both of them. They don't give you enough stats in other areas. Your bench and other starters are pretty good. Your starting pitchers are pretty high risk. Harden is a stud, Garcia is fairly safe. Outside of that it's a lot of high risk, high reward guys. The closers are fairly solid. You definitely need to add some more power. In the future, I'd avoid taking a catcher so early, try to avoid the steals only type guys (or draft only one of them at most), and mix in another safe pitcher or two with the higher ceiling guys. Edited February 19, 2006 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 Thanks for the input. It was quite a weird league im guesing, alot of players in it took starting pitching in first 1-5 rounds. This one guy had 4 starting pitchers as his first picks. I was hoping the draft wud be pretty normal and id be able to get some more "safe" pitchers in later rounds like was predicted by yahoo expert (in the mock draft). I just had another draft and it was much more easier to get late pitching then it was in this draft. I also don't like the tandom of reyes + podsednik, but i also got wilkerson/dye to take pods spot, and barmes to take reyes spot if i need production insted of speed . Thanks for the input. And btw I just drafted : Vladdy guerro, Jason Bay, Ichiro, Berkman, and J. Gomes in my outfield/util in a 12 team league . lol. I think thats dam good for my outfield . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Here's my teams. Gimme Input. I would've created a new thread, but I think we should just make this a big "judge my fantasy team" superthread. Team 1: C-Jason Varitek, AJ Pierzynski 1B-David Ortiz, Lance Berkman, Chase Utley 2B-Chase Utley, Jose Vidro 3B-Adrian Beltre SS-Juan Uribe OF-Lance Berkman, Magglio Ordonez, Torii Hunter, Preston Wilson, Craig Monroe SP-Carlos Zambrano, Roy Halladay, Felix Hernandez, Bartolo Colon, Freddy Garcia, Chris Young, Carl Pavano RP-Bobby Jenks, Scott Shields Team 2: C-Ivan Rodriguez 1B-Lance Berkman, Paul Konerko 2B-Placido Polanco, Jose Vidro 3B-Nomar Garciaparra, Placido Polanco SS-Juan Uribe, Nomar Garciaparra OF-Jose Guillen, David Delluci, Manny Ramirez, Magglio Ordonez, Barry Bonds SP-Roy Halladay, Jake Peavy, Andy Pettite, Tim Hudson, Chris Young, Carl Pavano RP-Chad Cordero, Bobby Jenks, Eric Gagne Team 3: C-AJ Pierzynski 1B-Lance Berkman 2B-Luis Castillo, Jose Vidro, Bill Hall 3B-David Wright, Aramis Ramirez, Bill Hall SS-Juan Uribe, Bill Hall OF-Barry Bonds, Magglio Ordonez, Jermaine Dye, Austin Kearns, Lance Berkman SP-Roy Halladay, Felix Hernandez, Freddy Garcia, Livan Hernandez, Chris Young, Carl Pavano RP-Eric Gagne, Huston Street, Bobby Jenks Thoughts?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Feb 19, 2006 -> 01:51 AM) Here's my teams. Gimme Input. I would've created a new thread, but I think we should just make this a big "judge my fantasy team" superthread. Thoughts?? I like your second team, vidro should be a good pick also bonds is a nice pick for team three he should be healthy and play well seems to me you did a good job on each team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Feb 19, 2006 -> 09:36 AM) Like your teams, the only thing is that if Halladay goes down, your in trouble with ALL your teams. You have Berkman,Jenks, Ordonez,Uribe,Chirs Young, and Carl Pavano on all 3 teams. If two or three of those guys have bad seasons or get hurt, you really hurt all 3 teams. Well I don't think Halladay's going to go down this year as well as Berkman, Jenks, Ordonez, or Uribe. Pavano is a question mark. Young will benefit from that nice big ballpark in San Diego. I like Uribe's protection in the lineup and there really wasn't any other available SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Feb 19, 2006 -> 01:51 AM) Here's my teams. Gimme Input. I would've created a new thread, but I think we should just make this a big "judge my fantasy team" superthread. Thoughts?? The first team is pretty solid. I'm not a huge fan of the left side of your infield, but that could definitely work out for you. I like your outfield picks, and you're got a solid starting staff. Your only weaknesses seem to be speed and saves, and I don't know how easy those will be to remedy. The second team has another really solid starting staff, only you got some closers to back it up. The outfield on that team is an absolute monster. I'd consider trading one of them for some infield help, because it looks pretty weak unless Nomar hits like he used to. I'd go for a speed guy, since that again appears to be a weak spot. The third team seems to be your weakest at the moment. Your starting staff is easily the weakest of the teams. I think you're good enough at second and obviously third, but I'd try to add another 1B/OF by trading either Wright or Ramirez. That would give you some more flexibility while bolstering your lineup. It seems that you like taking SP and OF early in the draft while largely avoiding speed. That can work well since most infielders and speed guys are overrated, but you still need to take a few of them to give your team more balance. On top of that, you generally want to take a top hitter over a top pitcher since the hitters are more durable and consistent, but if you can get monster starters below value, go for it. Also, on two of your teams you decided to take a catcher early. I wouldn't do that in the future. It allows you to solidify other areas, because frankly I don't think Varitek and I-Rod outproduce A.J. enough to warrant even a 3 round difference, and they usually go a lot more than 3 rounds earlier. Edited February 20, 2006 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Wait a minute, nitetrain, why am I giving you advice? I don't want you beating me in my own damn league! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 08:56 AM) The first team is pretty solid. I'm not a huge fan of the left side of your infield, but that could definitely work out for you. I like your outfield picks, and you're got a solid starting staff. Your only weaknesses seem to be speed and saves, and I don't know how easy those will be to remedy. The second team has another really solid starting staff, only you got some closers to back it up. The outfield on that team is an absolute monster. I'd consider trading one of them for some infield help, because it looks pretty weak unless Nomar hits like he used to. I'd go for a speed guy, since that again appears to be a weak spot. The third team seems to be your weakest at the moment. Your starting staff is easily the weakest of the teams. I think you're good enough at second and obviously third, but I'd try to add another 1B/OF by trading either Wright or Ramirez. That would give you some more flexibility while bolstering your lineup. It seems that you like taking SP and OF early in the draft while largely avoiding speed. That can work well since most infielders and speed guys are overrated, but you still need to take a few of them to give your team more balance. On top of that, you generally want to take a top hitter over a top pitcher since the hitters are more durable and consistent, but if you can get monster starters below value, go for it. Also, on two of your teams you decided to take a catcher early. I wouldn't do that in the future. It allows you to solidify other areas, because frankly I don't think Varitek and I-Rod outproduce A.J. enough to warrant even a 3 round difference, and they usually go a lot more than 3 rounds earlier. For the first team, Pierre's about to be dropped and I'm working on a deal for Podsednik. I'm definately going to pick up Pierre off of the waiver wire. Second team, I'm thinking about sending Bonds and Chris Young for Scott Podsednik and Jose Contreras. You think I should do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 11:50 AM) For the first team, Pierre's about to be dropped and I'm working on a deal for Podsednik. I'm definately going to pick up Pierre off of the waiver wire. Second team, I'm thinking about sending Bonds and Chris Young for Scott Podsednik and Jose Contreras. You think I should do it? Someone's dropping Pierre? That's pretty dumb. Anyways, if you get Pierre, I wouldn't give up anything valuable to get Pods. You already have some good OF's, so you don't really need to add any more. If you were still going to trade for some speed, I'd try to get a SS that can run. However, with Utley, Hunter and Pierre you don't really need to add another speedster that badly. As for the second team, you could go that route, but I'd try to target a middle infielder personally. Even someone like Lugo would be a bit of an upgrade, so you don't really have to give up Bonds or Manny then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Team #1 C Ivan Rodriguez 1B Todd Helton 2B Robinson Cano SS Clint Barmes 3B Arod OF Bobby Abreu OF Carlos Lee OF Garret Anderson Util Torii Hunter BN Prince Fielder BN Joe Crede SP Johan Santana SP Carlos Zambrano RP Trevor Hoffman RP Bobby Jenks P Tom Gordon P Mike Gonzalez P Scott Shields BN Scott Kazmir BN Josh Beckett Bn Bartolo Colon What ya think? My team lacks some steals. I went risky on some picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 02:07 PM) Team #1 C Ivan Rodriguez 1B Todd Helton 2B Robinson Cano SS Clint Barmes 3B Arod OF Bobby Abreu OF Carlos Lee OF Garret Anderson Util Torii Hunter BN Prince Fielder BN Joe Crede SP Johan Santana SP Carlos Zambrano RP Trevor Hoffman RP Bobby Jenks P Tom Gordon P Mike Gonzalez P Scott Shields BN Scott Kazmir BN Josh Beckett Bn Bartolo Colon What ya think? My team lacks some steals. I went risky on some picks. How many teams is that league? That's pretty ridiculous to get that kind of talent, even if it's 10 teams. The lineup is fairly solid. You've got some really productive guys with A-Rod, Helton, Abreu, and Lee. Hunter and Anderson are pretty good for 3rd and 4th OF's too. I'd look for a sleeper or two in the middle infield, that looks like a sore spot. The pitching is pretty good too. Having Santana, Zambrano, and Colon gives you a lot of leeway, so Beckett and Kazmir are great compliments. You've also got enough to get by with the closers, although I'd let Shields go unless holds is a stat. Overall, that's a pretty loaded team, I'd hate to be in your league. If you could find a SS or 2B that gives you another speedster, you'll be tough to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 (edited) 8 teams minimum innings pitched is 14, and he has added stats like walks for both hitters and pitchers, singles doubles triples, obp and slg, also shutout and cg i might drop shields though sounds like good suggestion Edited February 20, 2006 by ChWRoCk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Thought I'd add mine and let people lay into my team for a change. I think this is a pretty good team (especially the lineup), although I don't play roto enough to know exactly how this one will hold up (standard 5x5). C- Jojima 1B- Konerko, Mi. Sweeney, Tracy, Utley 2B- Utley SS- Furcal, Barmes 3B- Wright, eventually Tracy OF- Abreu, Tracy, Winn, Alou, Hermida SP- Zambrano, Contreras, Hudson, Vazquez, Cain, Blanton RP- Ryan, Isringhausen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 02:19 PM) 8 teams minimum innings pitched is 14, and he has added stats like walks for both hitters and pitchers, singles doubles triples, obp and slg, also shutout and cg i might drop shields though sounds like good suggestion That makes a little more sense then. It's a little hard to judge then since I don't typically play with less than 10 players. You still appear to have gotten steals on Santana, Abreu, Helton, and Zambrano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 01:26 PM) Thought I'd add mine and let people lay into my team for a change. I think this is a pretty good team (especially the lineup), although I don't play roto enough to know exactly how this one will hold up (standard 5x5). C- Jojima 1B- Konerko, Mi. Sweeney, Tracy, Utley 2B- Utley SS- Furcal, Barmes 3B- Wright, eventually Tracy OF- Abreu, Tracy, Winn, Alou, Hermida SP- Zambrano, Contreras, Hudson, Vazquez, Cain, Blanton RP- Ryan, Isringhausen OF could use some work, especially if Abreu continues his ways pre all-star game. I think Tracy is overrated and eventually will show that this year. Just a hunch. I like your pitching. Isringhausen is one of the most solid guys out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 04:57 PM) OF could use some work, especially if Abreu continues his ways pre all-star game. I think Tracy is overrated and eventually will show that this year. Just a hunch. I like your pitching. Isringhausen is one of the most solid guys out there. I think you mean post All-star game. I'd be pretty happy if he gave me his pre-All-star numbers. I'm expecting about 25 homers with 30 steals and an average around .280. That's not that unreasonable (actually right around his career average as a starter), and is still pretty good. He's too good a hitter to do much worse. My only real concern with him is that he stops running, but that doesn't seem terribly likely. He had a rough half a season, everyone is bound to do it once in a while. I'm also a little leery about Tracy, but he'll at least give me the batting average even if I don't get the 30 homers. I know Alou is an injury risk, but he hits when he's healthy. Winn isn't anything special, but he's probably good for about 15 homers and 20 steals, and hitting in front of Bonds should help a lot. I think I got a steal in Hermida, he's got enough power and speed to produce like an early round pick. This team is a result of my strategy toward OF's. I typically draft a player at a different position as opposed to an OF if the value is similar. There are just so many more quality options than at other positions. I'm not going to pass on someone like Vlad or Manny, but I don't really think it's worth using an early pick on people like Damon or Matsui when I get get someone similar 3 or 4 rounds later. Plus I can usually find at least one credible option in FA, and I've got a high priority so I can someone that gets dropped or Delmon Young when/if the D-Rays ever realize that he's at worst their second best option at the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 I'll throw mine out there. C Joe Mauer 1B Paul Konerko 2B Tadahito Iguchi 3B Miguel Cabrera SS Juan Uribe CI Lyle Overbay MI Carlos Guillen LF Jason Bay CF Willy Taveras RF Jermaine Dye OF Aaron Rowand OF Mark Kotsay UTIL Johnny Gomes UTIL Brad Wilkerson BN Preston Wilson BN Joe Crede BN A.J. Pierzynski BN Jason Michaels SP Roy Oswalt SP Ben Sheets SP Andy Pettitte RP Huston Street RP Neal Cotts RP Cliff Pollitte P Barry Zito P Zach Duke BN Chris Young BN Brendan Donnelly This was in a 10 team league, MI is middle infielder and CI is corner infielder. Yea, I know I took a lot of White Sox. I think Paulie will have another 40/100 year, while I believe Iguchi will further his game hitting later in the lineup. As for Juan, I think he can be a solid #2 hitter with the protection he has in the lineup. The league doesn't take into account OBP, and he provides some solid power for a SS. I took Crede for the few months in the year he is above average, and the power he provides. AJP is a good backup at catcher, and will hit a fair amount of homeruns. Right now, I'm trying to trade Cabrera in a deal that would bring Texiera to my team, who I would then spin for Ichiro and some other pieces. I'm also looking to add a closer, since I really only have one on my team. I've inquired about Jenks, but I think its unlikely he'll get moved. So, any thoughts on this team that I haven't covered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 04:17 PM) I think you mean post All-star game. I'd be pretty happy if he gave me his pre-All-star numbers. I'm expecting about 25 homers with 30 steals and an average around .280. That's not that unreasonable (actually right around his career average as a starter), and is still pretty good. He's too good a hitter to do much worse. My only real concern with him is that he stops running, but that doesn't seem terribly likely. He had a rough half a season, everyone is bound to do it once in a while. I'm also a little leery about Tracy, but he'll at least give me the batting average even if I don't get the 30 homers. I know Alou is an injury risk, but he hits when he's healthy. Winn isn't anything special, but he's probably good for about 15 homers and 20 steals, and hitting in front of Bonds should help a lot. I think I got a steal in Hermida, he's got enough power and speed to produce like an early round pick. This team is a result of my strategy toward OF's. I typically draft a player at a different position as opposed to an OF if the value is similar. There are just so many more quality options than at other positions. I'm not going to pass on someone like Vlad or Manny, but I don't really think it's worth using an early pick on people like Damon or Matsui when I get get someone similar 3 or 4 rounds later. Plus I can usually find at least one credible option in FA, and I've got a high priority so I can someone that gets dropped or Delmon Young when/if the D-Rays ever realize that he's at worst their second best option at the position. Yeah post. I like Hermida and forgot to add that in my original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 QUOTE(Felix @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 04:37 PM) I'll throw mine out there. C Joe Mauer 1B Paul Konerko 2B Tadahito Iguchi 3B Miguel Cabrera SS Juan Uribe CI Lyle Overbay MI Carlos Guillen LF Jason Bay CF Willy Taveras RF Jermaine Dye OF Aaron Rowand OF Mark Kotsay UTIL Johnny Gomes UTIL Brad Wilkerson BN Preston Wilson BN Joe Crede BN A.J. Pierzynski BN Jason Michaels SP Roy Oswalt SP Ben Sheets SP Andy Pettitte RP Huston Street RP Neal Cotts RP Cliff Pollitte P Barry Zito P Zach Duke BN Chris Young BN Brendan Donnelly This was in a 10 team league, MI is middle infielder and CI is corner infielder. Yea, I know I took a lot of White Sox. I think Paulie will have another 40/100 year, while I believe Iguchi will further his game hitting later in the lineup. As for Juan, I think he can be a solid #2 hitter with the protection he has in the lineup. The league doesn't take into account OBP, and he provides some solid power for a SS. I took Crede for the few months in the year he is above average, and the power he provides. AJP is a good backup at catcher, and will hit a fair amount of homeruns. Right now, I'm trying to trade Cabrera in a deal that would bring Texiera to my team, who I would then spin for Ichiro and some other pieces. I'm also looking to add a closer, since I really only have one on my team. I've inquired about Jenks, but I think its unlikely he'll get moved. So, any thoughts on this team that I haven't covered? I definately would not trade Cabrera unless you're getting a 3B of his calibur back. There aren't that many great 3B out there. You'd be a sucker to trade him IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 05:41 PM) I definately would not trade Cabrera unless you're getting a 3B of his calibur back. There aren't that many great 3B out there. You'd be a sucker to trade him IMO. Well, the only reason I was thinking of trading him is because the lack of RBI's he'll have this year, being on a team with virtually no offense besides himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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