santo=dorf Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Minors, just what happens in the states you mentioned when an atheist demands for their school to teach the theory that space aliens created the Earth (yes there are really people like that) or a Muslim student wants the theory that Allah created everything great in the universe? Would you want your schools teaching that material in a science class because that waht's some people decided to believe in? Didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I am going to end this discussion by saying that I will be praying for you. I'll take that as a concession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 21, 2006 -> 03:23 AM) Surely you believe in god? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Minors, just what happens in the states you mentioned when an atheist demands for their school to teach the theory that space aliens created the Earth (yes there are really people like that) or a Muslim student wants the theory that Allah created everything great in the universe? Would you want your schools teaching that material in a science class because that's what's some people decided to believe in? Didn't think so. I am going to end this discussion by saying that I will be praying for you. Juggs used to say the exact same thing when he was in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Minors, just what happens in the states you mentioned when an atheist demands for their school to teach the theory that space aliens created the Earth (yes there are really people like that) or a Muslim student wants the theory that Allah created everything great in the universe? Would you want your schools teaching that material in a science class because that waht's some people decided to believe in? Didn't think so. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Personally no I don't but hey I am not in control of what is taught an what isn't the Governor is and they have made it clear that evolution will come with an asterik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I'll take that as a concession. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I will not change my stance on the issue just like I don't see any other southerners doing it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 21, 2006 -> 03:44 AM) I will not change my stance on the issue just like I don't see any other southerners doing it either. i hope you'll at least understand the other side of the arguments motives are NOT part of the hoax known as the "war on christianity" in this country, but rather in the roots of science. and i also hope you realize why you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 10:35 PM) I am going to end this discussion by saying that I will be praying for you. I am scared to live in the same country as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I will not change my stance on the issue just like I don't see any other southerners doing it either. Of course not. You refuse to examine it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 So all the bible and all of history is all made up? All of the modern day miracles are all lies? Jesus was nothing but a lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 10:48 PM) So all the bible and all of history is all made up? All of the modern day miracles are all lies? Jesus was nothing but a lie? What exactly would you consider a modern day miracle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 10:48 PM) So all the bible and all of history is all made up? All of the modern day miracles are all lies? Jesus was nothing but a lie? Where in this discussion did anyone ever say that the bible, history, and Jesus were all made up and lies? What modern day miracles do you refer to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Those are different topics. We were discussing evolution and "creation theory" in schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 i hope you'll at least understand the other side of the arguments motives are NOT part of the hoax known as the "war on christianity" in this country, but rather in the roots of science. and i also hope you realize why you are wrong. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I do understand but have to wonder why it is unacceptable to at least present other theories do exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 10:49 PM) Where in this discussion did anyone ever say that the bible, history, and Jesus were all made up and lies? What modern day miracles do you refer to? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I want to know what the f*** the Bible, Jesus, and modern day miracles have to do with science classes in a public school. Must be "southern" science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 10:51 PM) I do understand but have to wonder why it is unacceptable to at least present other theories do exist Which theories are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 By the way, "Because the bible says so" isn't a theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I am scared to live in the same country as you. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh you should make a trip down here to the south if you think I am bad, I get criticised because I don't believe in it more strongly. You should ask BHAM how it is in Bama I feel sorry for him being a liberal down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 10:53 PM) By the way, "Because the bible says so" isn't a theory. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ....and even if was religious material can not be a mandatory subject to teach in a public school, regardless of the location in the U.S.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 20, 2006 -> 10:54 PM) Oh you should make a trip down here to the south if you think I am bad I think I'll pass but thanks for the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I want to know what the f*** the Bible, Jesus, and modern day miracles have to do with science classes in a public school. Must be "southern" science. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was refering to crimson on his response that he didn't believe in God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Theory: A scientific theory is an established and experimentally verified fact or collection of facts about the world. Unlike the everyday use of the word theory, it is not an unproved idea, or just some theoretical speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 (edited) What exactly would you consider a modern day miracle? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well I consider my uncle being suddenly cured from terminal caner when 3 weeks earlier when his wife was told to make him comfortable he will be dead in 2-4 weeks. Even the doctor from UM said it was a miracle beyond science. Also a friend who was in a terrible car crash in which she was drug 91 feet, half of her face was torn off and failed a brain test what ever it's called and the doctor told her mother to pull the plug but the mother prayed about it then mysteriously the next day the mother went to touch her and she pushed her hand off her the doctor performed another test and she passed again the doctor said science had no answer for this. Granted she still does have a long recovery. That is what I mean I should have stated it better Edited February 21, 2006 by minors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I believe in God, I also believe that the Bible was written by men, and as such it does not necessarily require a literal interpretation. If there is a place for creationism and inteligent design, it is in a philosophy or Humanities class. In fact, I think those are the perfect forum for those subjects. I am not going to rehash other people's arguments, as I feel that some other posters have stated the case of evolution far more eloquently than I could. I will say this however, it is possible to be a Christian and support evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Theory: A scientific theory is an established and experimentally verified fact or collection of facts about the world. Unlike the everyday use of the word theory, it is not an unproved idea, or just some theoretical speculation. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok lets agree to disagree. You have valid points and I think I have some vaild points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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