samclemens Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/22/national...agewanted=print Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Now here's your Roe V Wade challenge. DO IT!!!!!!! The time has never been better to end the practice of state sponsored murder of children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 banned http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...2202102_pf.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Feb 22, 2006 -> 09:23 PM) banned http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...2202102_pf.html Lawsuit will be filed almost immediately after its signed into law. Let the games begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 22, 2006 -> 08:45 PM) Now here's your Roe V Wade challenge. DO IT!!!!!!! The time has never been better to end the practice of state sponsored murder of children. As George Carlin said, "Not every ejaculation deserves a name." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Any abortion case where there is no incest or rape and with both mother and baby being healthy is murder PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 23, 2006 -> 09:46 PM) Any abortion case where there is no incest or rape and with both mother and baby being healthy is murder PLAIN AND SIMPLE. In your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 12:46 AM) Any abortion case where there is no incest or rape and with both mother and baby being healthy is murder PLAIN AND SIMPLE. So if the fetus is the result of rape, its not murder? I don't get that argument. If its murder, its always murder, regardless of the method of creation. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 So if the fetus is the result of rape, its not murder? I don't get that argument. If its murder, its always murder, regardless of the method of creation. Right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I forgot to add the words Premeditated Murder. Even though I hate the thought of abortion even in rape cases I will give them a little more lead way even though it goes against my personal beliefs. I cannot stomach people who go out have there fun without considering the risks then when a baby is conceived they run out and have an abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 05:49 PM) I forgot to add the words Premeditated Murder. Even though I hate the thought of abortion even in rape cases I will give them a little more lead way even though it goes against my personal beliefs. I cannot stomach people who go out have there fun without considering the risks then when a baby is conceived they run out and have an abortion. yeah because this happens all the time. getting an abortion is not like going to the dentist or getting a car wash you know. the pain that the procedure causes is pretty severe. Severe enough where people aren't just using this as an alternative to going out and getting condoms. on a side note, would you rather have abortions or babies found dead in dumpsters? just asking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 12:05 PM) yeah because this happens all the time. getting an abortion is not like going to the dentist or getting a car wash you know. the pain that the procedure causes is pretty severe. Severe enough where people aren't just using this as an alternative to going out and getting condoms. on a side note, would you rather have abortions or babies found dead in dumpsters? just asking.... Is the net result any different? Just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 10:05 AM) on a side note, would you rather have abortions or babies found dead in dumpsters? just asking.... It's actually quite possible to argue that if both are murder...the worst one is whichever one happens more often...which would clearly be in the case of legal abortions. Edited February 24, 2006 by Balta1701 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 12:07 PM) It's actually quite possible to argue that if both are murder...the worst one is whichever one happens more often...which would clearly be in the case of illegal abortions. I believe legal abortions are more frequent than illegal ones. If the law changes, then again, the net result is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 10:09 AM) I believe legal abortions are more frequent than illegal ones. If the law changes, then again, the net result is the same. Crud, meant to type "Legal". Man, I'm off a bit this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 12:11 PM) Crud, meant to type "Legal". Man, I'm off a bit this morning. We all have days like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 01:05 PM) yeah because this happens all the time. getting an abortion is not like going to the dentist or getting a car wash you know. the pain that the procedure causes is pretty severe. Severe enough where people aren't just using this as an alternative to going out and getting condoms. on a side note, would you rather have abortions or babies found dead in dumpsters? just asking.... That has to be the worst possible arguement for legal abortion. I can respect the arguements over rape, insest, danger to the mother, etc, but to argue that if you make it illegal that there will just be a bunch of people murdering babies disgusts me. Its makes it seem as if it would be OK to do a coathanger abortion because the mean old system won't let you have one. Its almost like saying the legal system won't go after the guy who committed a crime against me/my family, so instead I am going to go kill him myself. It doesn't make it right, and it is almost a blackmail type arguement instead of a rational arguement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 yeah because this happens all the time. getting an abortion is not like going to the dentist or getting a car wash you know. the pain that the procedure causes is pretty severe. Severe enough where people aren't just using this as an alternative to going out and getting condoms. on a side note, would you rather have abortions or babies found dead in dumpsters? just asking.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I can't even respond to this argument because it is so stupid it is blackmail at best. You condone murder with murder and it is a terrible argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 10:22 AM) I can't even respond to this argument because it is so stupid it is blackmail at best. You condone murder with murder and it is a terrible argument. Wait, did he just argue against the death penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 12:23 PM) Wait, did he just argue against the death penalty? Ah! One of the great ironies around here. Conservatives in favor of capital punishment and against abortion. Liberals opposed to capital punishment and in favor of abortion. The only real difference is that the unborn are totally innocent ... always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Wait, did he just argue against the death penalty? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> His argument was that abortion is good because it is better than the babies winding up in dumpsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Comparing innocent babies to cold blooded thugs. = Apples and Oranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I don't know many liberals that are "pro-abortion". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I don't know many liberals that are "pro-abortion". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There must be plenty outhere because if not Abortion would not be legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 QUOTE(minors @ Feb 24, 2006 -> 12:34 PM) There must be plenty outhere because if not Abortion would not be legal They are pro choice! What's the matter with ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minors Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 They are pro choice! What's the matter with ya? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Darn I forgot PRO CHOICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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