Rex Kickass Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 If you're watching the evening's festivities - post it here. Still don't know if I'm going to suffer the indignity, BUT Jon Stewart IS hosting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Crash is the only movie nominated for best picture that I got to see. I usually can watch the entire show. There is a lot of stuff they could get rid of, like performing all the Best Song noms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Just saw "Walk The Line" last night. Reese Witherspoon, you're my girl to win tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bones Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Ben Stiller presenting the award for visual effects was pretty hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Did they do the "In Memorium" part yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bones Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Mar 5, 2006 -> 07:55 PM) Did they do the "In Memorium" part yet? Nope, not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Keep Charlize Theron, Salma Hayek, and Keira Knightley off the screen. They are just hideous to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Did the Three 6 Mafia just win an Academy Award? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 did michael moore receive his "lifetime achievement" award yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 HAHA, ABC cut out one of the writers from Crash while he was in front of the microphone. You could tell the cast members were pissed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Liberal Hollywood with a HUUUUGGGGEEE defeat. Crash wins Best Picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 5, 2006 -> 11:24 PM) Liberal Hollywood with a HUUUUGGGGEEE defeat. Crash wins Best Picture. What's so conservative about 'Crash'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 5, 2006 -> 10:27 PM) What's so conservative about 'Crash'? Nothing. This isn't meant to be a victory for conservatives--just a stunning defeat for those who've continually insisted Brokeback Mountain was a "lock." Including 'Liberal Hollywood' was more of a slight jab at people suggesting the movie industry was ensuring the movie success to push forward a gay agenda. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a..._best_picture_1 The ensemble drama "Crash" pulled off one of the biggest upsets in Academy Awards history, winning best picture Sunday over the cowboy romance "Brokeback Mountain," which had been the front-runner. Whether or not anyone deems this a political defeat (which I only did with jest) the above excerpt proves how many deemed BM the oscar favorite. The most recent upset which comes to mind is Shakespeare in Love defeating Saving Private Ryan several years ago. Edited March 6, 2006 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 The ensemble drama "Crash" pulled off one of the biggest upsets in Academy Awards history, winning best picture Sunday over the cowboy romance "Brokeback Mountain," which had been the front-runner. That quote's just plain erroneous. Anyone who knows Brokeback knows it's not about front running... It's about coming from behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 12:17 AM) That quote's just plain erroneous. Anyone who knows Brokeback knows it's not about front running... It's about coming from behind. :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 A few thoughts: The Oscars are funny. Crash is the worst film of all the ones nominated. Every year it seems I ask myself this: How does a film (Crash) win for 'best movie' but the director doeesn't win 'best director'? How do you give someone the 'best director' award but not award the film (BBM) 'best movie?' "Mr. Lee we understand that you are responsible for every frame of this film and felt your directing was brilliant, we just didn't really enjoy the film that much overall". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I thought Crash was a very good movie. As for Brokeback, I haven't seen it and I have no desire to see it, but I have read a few reviews such as the one below that pretty much says the movie just isn't that good. The other two reviews I have read were from gay movie critics. I mean they both started out by saying...I'm gay so don't call me a homophobe, but I didn't like Brokeback and they said how they are getting so much flack for not liking the movie. The first thing people say to them is they are anti gay, without knowing that they were both indeed gay. They said it's like a sin to criticize the movie, but it just wasn't that good and it was boring. Anyway here's one review I just found. 'Brokeback Mountain' wasn't very good That's right; I said it. Brokeback Mountain, which critics everywhere are fawning over, isn't a great movie. I mean, sure, it's okay. But eight Academy Award nominations great? Not at all. Brokeback Mountain is a story about two Wyoming cowboys and their homosexual love affair over the course of twenty or so years. It's based on a short story by E. Annie Proulx, who also wrote the source novel for 2001's The Shipping News. Unlike other films based upon previous works -- in which there's usually too much material to fit it all into a movie -- Proulx's short story didn't have enough material to fit into this movie. As a result, director Ang Lee fills the movie with sweeping vistas and a repetition of the same chords over and over again on the soundtrack. Seriously, how did this movie get nominated for Best Original Score? It's the same four measures of music over and over and over for two hours! The second half of the movie feels forced, as Heath Ledger's wife, Michelle Williams, finds out about his love affair with Jake Gyllenhall, and eventually divorces him. Ledger becomes a loner and drops out of most sociable life. Gyllenhall marries the daughter of a farm-equipment salesman and becomes a successful farm equipment salesman, too. One could suspect that Ledger's lack of success is due to his constant fear of being discovered as gay. Plenty of opportunity is given to this film to explore Ledger's fear, but it is mentioned only superficially. Unfortunately, that would have been a better movie. Also, the end of the film presents an interesting dilemma for the audience. It's perfectly ambigious -- "perfectly" in the sense that there is absolutely, 100% no way to figure out what really happens. (I'll leave this sentence ambiguous in case you haven't seen the movie.) It's either really good writing or it's really bad writing to leave an audience without any clues. So, what do we have, here? A story of forbidden love? Extra-marital affairs? If it were any other movie, then Brokeback Mountain would have gone to video without a peep from anybody. But they're gay, so it's a novel new idea! Holy crap! There are gay people? Jesus Christ, I had no idea! Oh, man; a movie about gay people! How bold! How daring! Never mind the mediocre story and obvious attempts by Lee to fill space; there's gay people! A tour de force! A triumph! Michelle Williams is "a revelation"! Brokeback Mountain will change the way films are made forever! Except, all of that is overblown crap. To anyone who's been thinking in a progressive way for the last ten years, gay people aren't a novel idea. It's also not like they've never been represented on stage and screen before, either. This isn't a "triumph." Rent was hugely successful on Broadway, and there were gay people there. And in the movie version, too. Brokeback Mountain is, to Hollywood, what Margaret Cho yelling "Bush sucks!" is to one of her shows. It's an attempt at cheap applause. Of course the audience at a Margaret Cho show is going to scream and clap and get rowdy at the line "Bush sucks," because they all agree with it. Likewise, Hollywood is going to pat itself on the back for being progressive when Brokeback Mountain comes out, because they all agree with it. (Hollywood is pretty self-congratulatory, anyway. Who do you think are the members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences?) This film is either preaching to the Hollywood choir or to the choir of people who already know that there are gay people. Two groups of people won't see this movie: (1) people who don't think it looks interesting, and (2) people who hate gays, anyway. The second group is never going to see a movie that homosexualizes the cowboy, one of the sacred ideals of masculinity in the United States. Brokeback Mountain is novel in the sense that it takes one of American heterosexuality's greatest ideals and turns it on its head. But that's about it. The first group of people aren't going to see it no matter what, because they saw the trailers -- filled with Wyoming vistas -- and decided there weren't enough explosions. And the progressives? Hollywood will go to the movie and applaude itself. The other progressives will go to the movie and come out bored and frustrated. Bored that the movie was so boring. Frustrated that an important issue was portrayed so blandly. Seriously, if you remove the homosexuality, what is there to this movie? An extra-marital love affair? I wrote four of those movies before breakfast! If you want to watch a movie and feel like you're being progressive, go watch Crash, which is a much better movie. Also, Munich, Syriana, and Good Night, and Good Luck are better movies. (Crash is pretty awesome, though.) And yet, Brokeback Mountain will win not because it's a good movie, but because it's a mediocre movie about an important issue. Aristotle said that the ideal play is both dulcis and utilis: pleasing to watch, but also filled with good lessons. Even though he was probably gay, too, Aristotle would fault this movie on dulcis grounds. Then he would go see Batman Begins, which has more explosions (and is actually a better movie). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 02:15 PM) I thought Crash was a very good movie. As for Brokeback, I haven't seen it and I have no desire to see it, but I have read a few reviews such as the one below that pretty much says the movie just isn't that good. The other two reviews I have read were from gay movie critics. I mean they both started out by saying...I'm gay so don't call me a homophobe, but I didn't like Brokeback and they said how they are getting so much flack for not liking the movie. The first thing people say to them is they are anti gay, without knowing that they were both indeed gay. They said it's like a sin to criticize the movie, but it just wasn't that good and it was boring. Anyway here's one review I just found. 'Brokeback Mountain' wasn't very good That's right; I said it. Brokeback Mountain, which critics everywhere are fawning over, isn't a great movie. I mean, sure, it's okay. But eight Academy Award nominations great? Not at all. Brokeback Mountain is a story about two Wyoming cowboys and their homosexual love affair over the course of twenty or so years. It's based on a short story by E. Annie Proulx, who also wrote the source novel for 2001's The Shipping News. Unlike other films based upon previous works -- in which there's usually too much material to fit it all into a movie -- Proulx's short story didn't have enough material to fit into this movie. As a result, director Ang Lee fills the movie with sweeping vistas and a repetition of the same chords over and over again on the soundtrack. Seriously, how did this movie get nominated for Best Original Score? It's the same four measures of music over and over and over for two hours! The second half of the movie feels forced, as Heath Ledger's wife, Michelle Williams, finds out about his love affair with Jake Gyllenhall, and eventually divorces him. Ledger becomes a loner and drops out of most sociable life. Gyllenhall marries the daughter of a farm-equipment salesman and becomes a successful farm equipment salesman, too. One could suspect that Ledger's lack of success is due to his constant fear of being discovered as gay. Plenty of opportunity is given to this film to explore Ledger's fear, but it is mentioned only superficially. Unfortunately, that would have been a better movie. Also, the end of the film presents an interesting dilemma for the audience. It's perfectly ambigious -- "perfectly" in the sense that there is absolutely, 100% no way to figure out what really happens. (I'll leave this sentence ambiguous in case you haven't seen the movie.) It's either really good writing or it's really bad writing to leave an audience without any clues. So, what do we have, here? A story of forbidden love? Extra-marital affairs? If it were any other movie, then Brokeback Mountain would have gone to video without a peep from anybody. But they're gay, so it's a novel new idea! Holy crap! There are gay people? Jesus Christ, I had no idea! Oh, man; a movie about gay people! How bold! How daring! Never mind the mediocre story and obvious attempts by Lee to fill space; there's gay people! A tour de force! A triumph! Michelle Williams is "a revelation"! Brokeback Mountain will change the way films are made forever! Except, all of that is overblown crap. To anyone who's been thinking in a progressive way for the last ten years, gay people aren't a novel idea. It's also not like they've never been represented on stage and screen before, either. This isn't a "triumph." Rent was hugely successful on Broadway, and there were gay people there. And in the movie version, too. Brokeback Mountain is, to Hollywood, what Margaret Cho yelling "Bush sucks!" is to one of her shows. It's an attempt at cheap applause. Of course the audience at a Margaret Cho show is going to scream and clap and get rowdy at the line "Bush sucks," because they all agree with it. Likewise, Hollywood is going to pat itself on the back for being progressive when Brokeback Mountain comes out, because they all agree with it. (Hollywood is pretty self-congratulatory, anyway. Who do you think are the members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences?) This film is either preaching to the Hollywood choir or to the choir of people who already know that there are gay people. Two groups of people won't see this movie: (1) people who don't think it looks interesting, and (2) people who hate gays, anyway. The second group is never going to see a movie that homosexualizes the cowboy, one of the sacred ideals of masculinity in the United States. Brokeback Mountain is novel in the sense that it takes one of American heterosexuality's greatest ideals and turns it on its head. But that's about it. The first group of people aren't going to see it no matter what, because they saw the trailers -- filled with Wyoming vistas -- and decided there weren't enough explosions. And the progressives? Hollywood will go to the movie and applaude itself. The other progressives will go to the movie and come out bored and frustrated. Bored that the movie was so boring. Frustrated that an important issue was portrayed so blandly. Seriously, if you remove the homosexuality, what is there to this movie? An extra-marital love affair? I wrote four of those movies before breakfast! If you want to watch a movie and feel like you're being progressive, go watch Crash, which is a much better movie. Also, Munich, Syriana, and Good Night, and Good Luck are better movies. (Crash is pretty awesome, though.) And yet, Brokeback Mountain will win not because it's a good movie, but because it's a mediocre movie about an important issue. Aristotle said that the ideal play is both dulcis and utilis: pleasing to watch, but also filled with good lessons. Even though he was probably gay, too, Aristotle would fault this movie on dulcis grounds. Then he would go see Batman Begins, which has more explosions (and is actually a better movie). any review that starts off with "that's right, i said it" just deserves to be tossed in the trash. I've seen better reviews on amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 02:15 PM) The other progressives will go to the movie and come out bored and frustrated. Bored that the movie was so boring. Frustrated that an important issue was portrayed so blandly. Inasmuch as you go to a movie wanting to hear a political point ("an important issue"), that's right, you would be disappointed. For all the politics around the movie, there's very little inside it. I don't want to spoil the movie, but the movie is not about homosexuality, not at all. Who would be happy with this as an "issue" film? I can't imagine the characters are the 'image' that gay rights advocates want to put forward either. Best picture I've seen, anyway. Crash was just good, and only managed that b/c of Matt Dillon. GN&GL was better, too. (And THERE'S a political movie for ya.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 04:24 PM) Inasmuch as you go to a movie wanting to hear a political point ("an important issue"), that's right, you would be disappointed. For all the politics around the movie, there's very little inside it. I don't want to spoil the movie, but the movie is not about homosexuality, not at all. Who would be happy with this as an "issue" film? I can't imagine the characters are the 'image' that gay rights advocates want to put forward either. Best picture I've seen, anyway. Crash was just good, and only managed that b/c of Matt Dillon. GN&GL was better, too. (And THERE'S a political movie for ya.) I loved good night and good luck and Capote. I thought crash was over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Brokeback Mountain? I'm not about to watch a suckfest. No pun intended. Puns are never intended! Why am I still watching Shawshank Redemption and Forrest Gump over and over and over and over again? Someone make a good movie FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. It's been like 10 years. I'm in the f***ing Twilight Zone over here. You'd have to strap me down and drug me up if you wanted me to watch any of these retarded award shows. My wife had that bulls*** on. I was on my way to the bathroom when I spotted Ludacris? Grown people are watching this nonsense? My own wife, damn.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Triple 6! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 11:38 AM) Why am I still watching Shawshank Redemption and Forrest Gump over and over and over and over again? Someone make a good movie FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. It's been like 10 years. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 12:17 AM) That quote's just plain erroneous. Anyone who knows Brokeback knows it's not about front running... It's about coming from behind. oh jesus, quote of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Mar 6, 2006 -> 10:38 AM) Brokeback Mountain? I'm not about to watch a suckfest. No pun intended. Puns are never intended! Why am I still watching Shawshank Redemption and Forrest Gump over and over and over and over again? Someone make a good movie FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. It's been like 10 years. I'm in the f***ing Twilight Zone over here. You'd have to strap me down and drug me up if you wanted me to watch any of these retarded award shows. My wife had that bulls*** on. I was on my way to the bathroom when I spotted Ludacris? Grown people are watching this nonsense? My own wife, damn.... sooooo, how many movies have you watched in the last 10 years? none? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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