thedoctor Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 here you go: Coaches FIRST TEAM James Augustine, Illinois Dee Brown, Illinois Greg Brunner, Iowa Terence Dials, Ohio State ALANDO TUCKER, Wisconsin SECOND TEAM SHANNON BROWN, Michigan St. Paul Davis, Michigan State Je’Kel Foster, Ohio State Daniel Horton, Michigan Vedran Vukusic, Northwestern THIRD TEAM Maurice Ager, Michigan State GEARY CLAXTON, Penn State# Vincent Grier, Minnesota# ADAM HALUSKA, Iowa# Jeff Horner, Iowa Marco Killingsworth, Indiana HONORABLE MENTION JAMAR BUTLER, Ohio State KAMMRON TAYLOR, Wisconsin ROBERT VADEN, Indiana ALL-FRESHMAN TEAM JAMELLE CORNLEY, Penn State JOE KRABBENHOFT, Wisconsin CHRIS LUTZ, Purdue CRAIG MOORE, Northwestern JAMAR SMITH, Illinois ALL-DEFENSIVE TEAM SHANNON BROWN, Michigan St. Je’Kel Foster, Ohio State Mohamed Hachad, Northwestern Erek Hansen, Iowa BRIAN RANDLE, Illinois PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Terence Dials, Ohio State DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Erek Hansen, Iowa FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR: JAMELLE CORNLEY, Penn State SIXTH MAN OF THE YEAR: Doug Thomas, Iowa # tie As selected by Big Ten media (players names in ALL CAPS have 2006-07 eligibility) FIRST TEAM Dee Brown, Illinois Greg Brunner, Iowa Terence Dials, Ohio State Daniel Horton, Michigan ALANDO TUCKER, Wisconsin SECOND TEAM Maurice Ager, Michigan State James Augustine, Illinois SHANNON BROWN, Michigan St. Paul Davis, Michigan State Marco Killingsworth, Indiana THIRD TEAM JAMAR BUTLER, Ohio State GEARY CLAXTON, Penn State Je’Kel Foster, Ohio State Jeff Horner, Iowa Vedran Vukusic, Northwestern HONORABLE MENTION Vincent Grier, Minnesota ADAM HALUSKA, Iowa Matt Kiefer, Purdue KAMMRON TAYLOR, Wisconsin ROBERT VADEN, Indiana PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Terence Dials, Ohio State FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR: JAMELLE CORNLEY, Penn State COACH OF THE YEAR: Thad Matta, Ohio State Big Ten Sportsmanship Award Honorees Dee Brown, Illinois; Marshall Strickland, Indiana; Adam Haluska, Iowa; Graham Brown, Michigan; Maurice Ager, Michigan State; Adam Boone, Minnesota; Michael Jenkins, Northwestern; Je'Kel Foster, Ohio State; Mike Walker, Penn State; Bryant Dillon, Purdue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Vukusic should have been a first teamer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rventura23 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Ohio State taking home player and coach of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Nice to see Grier get a mention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Told everyone Hansen would be defensive player of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 02:28 PM) Told everyone Hansen would be defensive player of the year. Doesn't mean he is most deserving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 10:42 AM) Vukusic should have been a first teamer. Over who exactly? They 5 guys they selected are better than Vukusic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 How the hell does Dee Brown not get on the all-defensive team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 09:53 PM) Over who exactly? They 5 guys they selected are better than Vukusic. He had a better than Augustine of Illinois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 06:30 PM) How the hell does Dee Brown not get on the all-defensive team? I believe Big Ten players voted him best defensive player in the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 06:31 PM) He had a better than Augustine of Illinois. I was thinking the same thing. Maybe the fact Northwestern is so bad is the reason he didn't get 1st team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 06:31 PM) He had a better than Augustine of Illinois. Different positions? Different systems? Vukusic runs in a Princeton offense, he's the main target. He doesn't rebound or play effective D, Augustine does both and still scored. I think the guys that got screwed were the Michigan State guys minus Paul Davis (who's the biggest whiniest b**** in the Big 10 according to the SI players poll ). Ager> Tucker, Shannon Brown > Tucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEWOOD Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Hell of a Job Buckeyes!! Most deserving and I think the awards run true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Ager, Brown, Tucker comparison Ager (G): PPG 19.1 | APG 2.6 | RPG 4.2 Brown (G): PPG 18.2 | APG 2.7 | RPG 4.4 Tucker (F): PPG 18.9 | APG 1.7 | RPG 5.7 Its hard to argue Tucker doesnt deserve to be there with his ppg and rpg, especially compared to Augie and Brunner: Brunner (F) PPG 14.2 | APG 1.8 | RPG 9.7 Augie (F) PPG 13.4 | APG 1.9 | RPG 9.1 Dials (F-C) PPG 15.3 | APG .6 | RPG 8.0 D. Brown (G) PPG 14.7 | APG 5.6 | RPG 2.9 Its all pretty close when looking at these players. My opinion is they made sure Tucker was there because he is basically the entire Wisconsin team and every game Wisconsin plays the teams first and last goal is: Stop Tucker. I think it would just be hard to drop Tucker who is clearly the top player on his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 04:34 PM) I believe Big Ten players voted him best defensive player in the conference. HUH. Hansen was best defensive player in the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 09:13 PM) HUH. Hansen was best defensive player in the conference. On the court less than half of the game. 19 minutes. EDIT: Not trying to discount or disrespect Hansen's ability to change the game by altering shots in the paint. Edited March 8, 2006 by WHarris1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 BTW, how exactly did Graham Brown make the All-Sportsmanship award? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 10:13 PM) HUH. Hansen was best defensive player in the conference. There was a poll of the players in SI where the players voted on various categories, and Dee Brown was elected the best defensive player by a fairly large margin. I personally didn't have a problem with Vedran not making the first team, but he's not totally one-dimensional either. He's a great scorer, but it's hard to really judge his defense and rebounding fairly based on the defense NU plays. Their 1-3-1 zone makes it hard for them to rebound, and there's no one really attacking the basket on offense. He's also a solid passer. You can't really credit his scoring to the offense either, since it's main purpose is to spread the floor and use multiple options. They don't constantly run plays for him and he still puts up the great numbers. Personally I would have put Horton on the 1st team over Brunner. Horton had a great year, and frankly I wasn't all that impressed with Brunner. Edited March 8, 2006 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 08:03 PM) There was a poll of the players in SI where the players voted on various categories, and Dee Brown was elected the best defensive player by a fairly large margin. I personally didn't have a problem with Vedran not making the first team, but he's not totally one-dimensional either. He's a great scorer, but it's hard to really judge his defense and rebounding fairly based on the defense NU plays. Their 1-3-1 zone makes it hard for them to rebound, and there's no one really attacking the basket on offense. He's also a solid passer. You can't really credit his scoring to the offense either, since it's main purpose is to spread the floor and use multiple options. They don't constantly run plays for him and he still puts up the great numbers. Personally I would have put Horton on the 1st team over Brunner. Horton had a great year, and frankly I wasn't all that impressed with Brunner. How are you replacing a PF in Brunner with a guard in Horton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 12:00 AM) How are you replacing a PF in Brunner with a guard in Horton? Because there are 4 forwards on the first team and only one guard. Brunner happens to be the one I'd drop out of him, Tucker, Dials, and Augustine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 09:03 PM) Because there are 4 forwards on the first team and only one guard. Brunner happens to be the one I'd drop out of him, Tucker, Dials, and Augustine. Brunner played superior to Augestine. I realize Augestine is more talented but I'm not dropping Brunner before Augestine. Brunner led the conference in rebounding and did a good job on the scoring end as well. I know he'll never play professionally, but the guy deserved his nomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 8, 2006 -> 12:04 AM) Brunner played superior to Augestine. I realize Augestine is more talented but I'm not dropping Brunner before Augestine. Brunner led the conference in rebounding and did a good job on the scoring end as well. I know he'll never play professionally, but the guy deserved his nomination. I'm personally dropping him because he shoots for a much lower percentage than the other forwards and from what I've seen he isn't a big factor on the defensive end. Plus his rebounding edge isn't that big (unless you count Vedran). I'd put him as a second-teamer with Davis, Vedran, Shannon Brown, and Foster (yeah, I know, no PG). I got nothing against him and I think he's a decent player, I just don't think he's as good as those other guys. Edited March 8, 2006 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 7, 2006 -> 09:11 PM) I'm personally dropping him because he shoots for a much lower percentage than the other forwards and from what I've seen he isn't a big factor on the defensive end. Plus his rebounding edge isn't that big (unless you count Vedran). I'd put him as a second-teamer with Davis, Vedran, Shannon Brown, and Foster (yeah, I know, no PG). I got nothing against him and I think he's a decent player, I just don't think he's as good as those other guys. Your right. He shot a lower % than Augestine, but he scored about a ppg better while grabbing down .6 boards a game better. Obviously its close, but Brunner played far more consistent night in/night out than Augestine (who seemed to have quite a few games where he would dissapear with foul trouble). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Also, just because we are debating all conference players. I think it should be noted that Brunner scored 14.4 a game in conference to the 12.5 by Augestine in conference play. Rebounding margin stayed almost the same (9.6 to 8.9) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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