Rex Kickass Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I think they may have been slanted at one time. Now I just think they're opportunist and lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Mar 10, 2006 -> 11:32 AM) I think they may have been slanted at one time. Now I just think they're opportunist and lazy. Now with that, you may have a damn good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Mar 10, 2006 -> 09:32 AM) I think they may have been slanted at one time. Now I just think they're opportunist and lazy. Good point. I think it's a mixture of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 The press is a big reason why Clinton got impeached in 98/99. They got their mitts on a story and beat that dead horse over and over and over again. The press is a big reason why people didn't forget about the Swift Boat ads. It's not what they said about it, but because they saw some story there and beat that dead horse. Look at political stories now. They are rarely about the issues. They are about the horserace. Democrats are falling apart! Republicans are falling apart! This poll says this! What about, this candidate supports this policy and this is why? Where did that go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin57 Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I think that Bernard Goldberg's assessment of the "liberal media" should carry authoritative weight in this argument. Here's a recognized leader in the world of the "mainstream media": honored, acclaimed, above reproach. And he asserts there is a definite liberal bias...at least in the mainstream outlets. He analyzes it, though, from an interesting perspective. He says that it is not a deliberate, conscious attempt to sway public opinion or slant the news in a left direction. He notes that the top networks, newspapers, etc. hire from the Ivy League mostly, where liberal thought/biases are just a given. They want to hire "the best." BG recommends that CBS, the NY Times, et al. hire solid graduates from, oh, let's say, the University of Nebraska. That alone would open up the assumptions of those who studied in environments given almost entirely to leftist thought. Plus, who's the say that there would be any significant qualitative difference between a graduate of Yale and a graduate of the University of Iowa? In my experience, hard-working students will be successful in the business world, whoever their profs may have been. If there were true diversity of background in journalists, this would be far less of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 QUOTE(kevin57 @ Mar 10, 2006 -> 12:54 PM) Plus, who's the say that there would be any significant qualitative difference between a graduate of Yale and a graduate of the University of Iowa? If you are looking to go less left than Yale, the University of Iowa is not the place to go. Your mainstream Hawkeye is from Chicago or some other big city, and usually left-leaning. The in-state small town crowd usually goes to Iowa State or UNI. I'd stick more with the Nebraska example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 QUOTE(kevin57 @ Mar 10, 2006 -> 09:54 AM) I think that Bernard Goldberg's assessment of the "liberal media" should carry authoritative weight in this argument. Here's a recognized leader in the world of the "mainstream media": honored, acclaimed, above reproach. And he asserts there is a definite liberal bias...at least in the mainstream outlets. He analyzes it, though, from an interesting perspective. He says that it is not a deliberate, conscious attempt to sway public opinion or slant the news in a left direction. He notes that the top networks, newspapers, etc. hire from the Ivy League mostly, where liberal thought/biases are just a given. They want to hire "the best." BG recommends that CBS, the NY Times, et al. hire solid graduates from, oh, let's say, the University of Nebraska. That alone would open up the assumptions of those who studied in environments given almost entirely to leftist thought. Plus, who's the say that there would be any significant qualitative difference between a graduate of Yale and a graduate of the University of Iowa? In my experience, hard-working students will be successful in the business world, whoever their profs may have been. If there were true diversity of background in journalists, this would be far less of a problem. Academia is overwhelmingly liberal almost everywhere. I worked briefly at Texas A&M, one of the most conservative universities in the nation, and met very few conservatives among the faculty. Hell, one of them actually had socialist propaganda posted all over his research lab. The student body seemed more conservative than some of the other universities I've been at, but the faculty wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin57 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 QUOTE(WCSox @ Mar 10, 2006 -> 01:23 PM) Academia is overwhelmingly liberal almost everywhere. I worked briefly at Texas A&M, one of the most conservative universities in the nation, and met very few conservatives among the faculty. Hell, one of them actually had socialist propaganda posted all over his research lab. The student body seemed more conservative than some of the other universities I've been at, but the faculty wasn't. I'll trust what you're saying is true...and also incredibly sad. Granted it was a "few" years ago, but when I went to Villanova (grad of 1979), I did not encounter any left-wing bias. I honestly could not tell what part of the political spectrum most of my profs were on, and with the couple of lefties, I felt no pressure to parrot back anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 It's funny, there are some very conservative political science schools out there. Many of them well respected... one of them is in Chicago... can't seem to think of its name though... University of.... ummm its in Hyde Park... lets just go with University of Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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