SSH2005 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/basebal...sports-baseball Walker-Matos deal? Talks between the Orioles and Chicago Cubs about the long-discussed Luis Matos-for-Todd Walker swap have intensified the past couple of days, according to industry sources. The holdup appears to be the Orioles' unwillingness to pick up the entire $2.5 million contract for the Cubs second baseman, who makes about $900,000 more than Matos. Walker, 32, who is competing for Chicago's starting second base job, hit .305 last season with 12 homers and 40 RBIs. Orioles officials view the left-handed hitter mostly as a designated hitter who could give Perlozzo another good bat off the bench. Walker also could provide some infield insurance if Roberts isn't ready for Opening Day. Matos, currently playing for Puerto Rico in the World Baseball Classic, is behind Corey Patterson in the duel to win the club's starting center-field job. What do you do when one of your stud pitchers goes down? Yes, you trade away your third best bat for a scrub. Gotta love that Cubs' management! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 lol, morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 The Orioles are stupider than the Cubs. Always taking their crap players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 The Orioles are stupider than the Cubs. Always taking their crap players. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Walker is an All-Star compared to Luis Matos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I like what Todd Walker brings to the table, the Cubs are stupid to get into a war with such a class act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 11:28 PM) I like what Todd Walker brings to the table, the Cubs are stupid to get into a war with such a class act. Walker's a class act? He hasn't learned to keep his mouth shut in the press, and there's some things about him off the field which are startling. I do think he's a super hitter though, and should start for the Cubs. BTW redandwhite, I'm not attacking your thought here. Rather, I just get annoyed when I hear Walker whine and b**** in the media every other week. As much as I hate the Cubs, I think they'd be better off just getting rid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 05:30 PM) Walker's a class act? He hasn't learned to keep his mouth shut in the press, and there's some things about him off the field which are startling. I do think he's a super hitter though, and should start for the Cubs. BTW redandwhite, I'm not attacking your thought here. Rather, I just get annoyed when I hear Walker whine and b**** in the media every other week. As much as I hate the Cubs, I think they'd be better off just getting rid of him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What have you heard about Todd Walker? He was lead to believe from upper management that the starting second base job was his and Dusty Baker came out and denied that a week later. What else has he talked about in the paper on a weekly basis? In his tenure with the Red Sox he was always very soft spoken, and talked only when talked to, aswell as being a very popular in the community. So, again, what has he been saying that makes him a bad guy off the field? Your opinion of him on it, isn't in question here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 What have you heard about Todd Walker? He was lead to believe from upper management that the starting second base job was his and Dusty Baker came out and denied that a week later. What else has he talked about in the paper on a weekly basis? In his tenure with the Red Sox he was always very soft spoken, and talked only when talked to, aswell as being a very popular in the community. So, again, what has he been saying that makes him a bad guy off the field? Your opinion of him on it, isn't in question here. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Walker has since changed his tune on that. First, he said that Dusty had told him he was the starter at second base during the offseason. Now, he has backed off of those comments. He also said that "sometimes organizations lie to you." After that, he said that he wasn't referring to the Cubs and apologized to Hendry and Dusty. The dude likes to run his mouth. This is no lie. His quotes seem to be in the Tribune every other week. Walker's bat is great but his crappy defense, inability to stay healthy, and big mouth are all reasons why the Cubs are trying to dump him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Matos is behind Corey Patterson in the duel to win the club's starting center-field job. Shouldn't that be enough for the Cubs to just say HELL NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 04:14 PM) Shouldn't that be enough for the Cubs to just say HELL NO. I'm still trying to figure out why the Cubs would need another backup outfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 I'm still trying to figure out why the Cubs would need another backup outfielder. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It wouldn't make much sense to trade Patterson and then obtain his backup. It also doesn't make sense because they already have Marquis Grissom in camp to serve as a backup for every outfield spot. And we all know how much Dusty loves his new 90 year old buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Walker whined about playing time with Grudz at second back in 2004. IIRC he opened his mouth up and had some issues in both Cincy and Colorado. He supposedly Hendry before the offseason not to pick up his option if he planned on trading him before the season. I can only imagine what he's going to say if he gets traded to the O's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuck the Cubs Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 It's Walker's defense that hurts him. Boston used it as their rationale for letting him go after 2003, and it's part of the Cubs rationale why he was (or still is I guess) on the trading block Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 Looks like the Flubs really want this Matos scrub... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6032001553.html Cubs Eager for Matos The Orioles remain in contact with the Chicago Cubs, who are pushing for a swap of outfielder Luis Matos for Chicago infielder Todd Walker, according to a baseball source. The source said the Cubs are more eager for such a trade, but the Orioles haven't dismissed it. If they agree to the deal, the Orioles likely will use Walker, who batted .305 with 12 home runs last season, as a designated hitter. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Look for the Cubs to heavily pursuit Soriano if he continues to b**** about playing in the outfield. I'd rather they not get him, as I think he'd make that lineup a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) Look for the Cubs to heavily pursuit Soriano if he continues to b**** about playing in the outfield. I'd rather they not get him, as I think he'd make that lineup a lot better. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't think so. Hendry has been on the defense kick the entire offseason. I think he wants Hairston starting at 2B, regardless of his mediocre offense. I think they will trade Walker soon and Hairston will be their opening day 2nd baseman with worthless Neifi stealing starts from Ronny Cedeno at SS. Dusty loves his little Neifi. Edited March 21, 2006 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Trading for Matos makes me believe there isnt much confidence in playing Murton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Look for the Cubs to heavily pursuit Soriano if he continues to b**** about playing in the outfield. I'd rather they not get him, as I think he'd make that lineup a lot better. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Soriano to Cubs? Not likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/basebal...sports-baseball Matos-Walker deal off? After serious talks for several weeks about a potential Todd Walker for Luis Matos deal, the trade talks between the Chicago Cubs and Orioles have cooled significantly in recent days, according to an industry source. The Orioles wanted the Cubs to pay the difference of the two players' salaries - the Chicago second baseman makes approximately $900,000 more than the Orioles center fielder - but the clubs have yet to agree on the monetary amount and have not made any progress toward getting the deal done. With Orioles second baseman Brian Roberts looking like he will be ready for Opening Day after offseason shoulder surgery, club officials also are concerned with how they were going to be able to get Walker, a .305 hitter last season, enough at-bats. The Orioles are still having trade dialogue with several teams, with a corner outfielder, a left-handed relief pitcher and a backup catcher atop their wish list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 23, 2006 -> 09:48 AM) http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/basebal...sports-baseball club officials also are concerned with how they were going to be able to get Walker, a .305 hitter last season, enough at-bats. Put him and first base and "forget" to bring Kevin Millar with the team up from Florida. How hard is that to figure out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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