beck72 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/whitesox.asp Herm Schneider is usually very cautious about injuries to players. From the sounds of it, the injuries to Pods and Jose don't seem that bad. He makes it seem like rather minor issues and not something that could linger. He still is concerned about Dustin though. Even with him, he states that Dustin's back won't get worse with pitching. It may be a matter of how effective he can pitch with the back pain. Good news overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 That's good to hear. The results of a second MRI on Podsednik’s shoulder again showed no structural damage, and the White Sox’ leadoff hitter should be ready to resume baseball activities Friday. Sounds like age catching up to Pods. Schneider said Contreras has an existing bone spur in his elbow, a common condition among major-league pitchers. Apparently, the bottom of Contreras’ triceps rubbed up against the spur when he was playing long toss Tuesday. I hope this is not a recurring issue this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 In all three cases, it sounds like they know what the injuries are, and what the prognosis is. Jose's sounds like an irritation of the muscle going over the bone spur [which wasn't a problem in the past]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I think Hermanson blew it by not having back surgery this offseason. If he's going to try to pitch with his back pain again like he did in the second half of last season, he's going to be of little use to our bullpen. He'll get rocked. I'm sure KW isn't depending on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 06:53 AM) I think Hermanson blew it by not having back surgery this offseason. If he's going to try to pitch with his back pain again like he did in the second half of last season, he's going to be of little use to our bullpen. He'll get rocked. I'm sure KW isn't depending on him. Yeah, there is no way the Sox are going to rely on Hermie. If 4+ months of rest doesn't alleviate the problem, then more rest is not going to do it for him either. The best option would be to go ahead and fix the problem with surgery and come back at 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 from the Times on Jose: "We X-rayed him, and we thought he had maybe a loose body inside the joint,'' Schneider said. "That's absolutely not true. Somehow or another, he's got a little tendinitis in the triceps [near the elbow]. When he flexes his arm and he pulls his triceps over the spur that he has -- which all pitchers have -- it just irritates him. It's just a freak little thing. Structurally, he looks fine. "He's never had it before. We don't want to shut him down any longer than we have to.'' The problem is convincing Contreras of that. After throwing on the side Tuesday, Contreras, 34, said he felt great. Later in the day, however, he straightened his arm and felt pain in the elbow. "The trainer said not to worry, but obviously I'm worried a little bit,'' Contreras said. "I'm going to get treatment and see what happens the next few days.'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 04:18 AM) Yeah, there is no way the Sox are going to rely on Hermie. If 4+ months of rest doesn't alleviate the problem, then more rest is not going to do it for him either. The best option would be to go ahead and fix the problem with surgery and come back at 100%. Some people have said that if he goes in for that surgery...he may never pitch again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 all of these injuries are really scaring the s*** out of me. It makes you realize just how lucky we were all of last season, considering the injury bug............and well everything else too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(SnB @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 10:29 AM) all of these injuries are really scaring the s*** out of me. It makes you realize just how lucky we were all of last season, considering the injury bug............and well everything else too. Yeah no s*** this f***ing sucks. We needs Pods and Jose if were gonna repeat. As far as Hermy... he's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rventura23 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 07:37 AM) ut obviously I'm worried a little bit,'' Contreras said. "I'm going to get treatment and see what happens the next few days.'' its never good that contreras is worried about the injury, but Im glad the sox dont think too much of it. too many injuries already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(rventura23 @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 10:43 AM) its never good that contreras is worried about the injury, but Im glad the sox dont think too much of it. too many injuries already Every team is facing similar ST injuries. They happen to lots of players every spring. Little inflammations and pulls. Nothing serious. Nothing to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(RME JICO @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 06:18 AM) Yeah, there is no way the Sox are going to rely on Hermie. If 4+ months of rest doesn't alleviate the problem, then more rest is not going to do it for him either. The best option would be to go ahead and fix the problem with surgery and come back at 100%. It's not the rest that is supposed to help but the strengthening and control exercises to keep the disc under control. This will keep the disc off the nerve and decrease the pain. Since the rehab didn't work there are going to do the epidurals which is like throwing a crap load of anti-inflammatories in a localized spot and hope the injection calms the inflammation down. My guess would be surgery. The surgery would not end his career but rehab would probably be 2-3 months, then with time to get the arm in shape he wouldn't be ready at the earliest until the mid-August. The epidurals may take care of it but I doubt it would on a long term basis. Edited March 16, 2006 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 11:58 AM) It's not the rest that is supposed to help but the strengthening and control exercises to keep the disc under control. This will keep the disc off the nerve and decrease the pain. Since the rehab didn't work there are going to do the epidurals which is like throwing a crap load of anti-inflammatories in a localized spot and hope the injection clams the inflammation down. My guess would be surgery. The surgery would not end his career but rehab would probably be 2-3 months, then with time to get the arm in shape he wouldn't be ready at the earliest until the mid-August. The epidurals may take care of it but I doubt it would on a long term basis. I could be wrong, but this doesn't sound like a disc injury: "...Hermanson felt better thanks to the epidural, which was given to control the pitcher's back pain caused by loose ligaments. The injury is called a one percent instability and only affects Hermanson when he pitches." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 11:14 AM) I could be wrong, but this doesn't sound like a disc injury: "...Hermanson felt better thanks to the epidural, which was given to control the pitcher's back pain caused by loose ligaments. The injury is called a one percent instability and only affects Hermanson when he pitches." That's just a way of talking around it. The instability is caused by the disc shrinking in height so the vertabrae above and below the disc move too much or cause instability. The ligaments are loose because the distance between the two vertebrae has decreased due to the decreased disc height. Either way it will be the disc which causes the problem and it will nedd to be addressed if he is to continue pitching long term. Edited March 16, 2006 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 12:28 PM) That's just a way of talking around it. The instability is caused by the disc shrinking in height so the vertabrae above and below the disc move too much or cause instability. The ligaments are loose again because the distance beten the two vertebrae has decreased due to the decreased disc height. Either way it will be the disc which causes the problem and it will nedd to be addressed if he is to continue pitching long term. Thx ptatc, I thought it was a disc until I heard that description. Now it makes sense again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 08:52 AM) Every team is facing similar ST injuries. They happen to lots of players every spring. Little inflammations and pulls. Nothing serious. Nothing to worry about. This scares me vastly less than the pop one of our guys felt in his foot right around this time last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 11:33 AM) This scares me vastly less than the pop one of our guys felt in his foot right around this time last year. Oh yah. Now that woulda been trouble. But it turned out to be nothing at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 12:33 PM) This scares me vastly less than the pop one of our guys felt in his foot right around this time last year. i'm glad you brought this up cuz i was about to. people ALWAYS get little injuries in spring training because they're getting back into the swing of things and fans ALWAYS get themselves worked up about it. Buehrle was fine, pods and jose probably will be too. it's still early guys. not time to panic quite yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Last year we rode out the injuries with depth. We still have depth-EXCEPT the bullpen. A couple of moves need to be made there and the late finishes for Gload & Borchard will help acquire someone. Any opinion of Scott Williamson from the Cubs? We had him before and they have some problems-but not their bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(Reddy @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 11:05 AM) i'm glad you brought this up cuz i was about to. people ALWAYS get little injuries in spring training because they're getting back into the swing of things and fans ALWAYS get themselves worked up about it. Buehrle was fine, pods and jose probably will be too. it's still early guys. not time to panic quite yet. These sort of injuries are precisely why the WBC is so poorly timed. These sort of injuries ALWAYS crop up when people go from being fairly inactive to being more active when the season starts. And if they start exerting themselves fully too soon, you increase the chances of guys like Lee or Damon doing something that will affect them for quite some time. Fact is, if you don't go through these sorts of injuries now, as you're building up to full activity...you start running into pulled hamstrings and such when the season starts, and that's even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 11:14 AM) Last year we rode out the injuries with depth. We still have depth-EXCEPT the bullpen. A couple of moves need to be made there and the late finishes for Gload & Borchard will help acquire someone. Any opinion of Scott Williamson from the Cubs? We had him before and they have some problems-but not their bullpen. The Cubs right now would have to be absolutely out of their mind to trade anyone from their pitching staff. Hell, if I were in their place I'd try to figure out a way to start the season with 13 pitchers on my roste.r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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