Guest JimH Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Darren Blakely, Josh Fields, and Agustin Montero were sent down to AAA after today's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 who is montero? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 21, 2006 -> 08:25 PM) who is montero? You don't want to know. Big ups to Josh Fields on an outstanding spring. Keep it up at Bham or Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 02:27 AM) You don't want to know. Big ups to Josh Fields on an outstanding spring. Keep it up at Bham or Charlotte. He just said they were sent to AAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 21, 2006 -> 08:28 PM) He just said they were sent to AAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideBlitz Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Montero should be sent home. What a bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Montero's contract was bought by the Japanese League team Mitsubishi Cyclones. So.. he'll be a Mitsubishi Montero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(knightni @ Mar 21, 2006 -> 08:47 PM) Montero's contract was bought by the Japanese League team Mitsubishi Cyclones. So.. he'll be a Mitsubishi Montero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexFives Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(rangercal @ Mar 21, 2006 -> 08:49 PM) it will be good for fields to be in AAA opposed to AA, if he can continue his progression up there, with the glove and cutting down on k's i will be tickled pink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Fields had a great Spring and I hope he rakes in AAA. Blakely didn't look too bad either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 05:15 AM) Fields had a great Spring and I hope he rakes in AAA. Blakely didn't look too bad either. Agreed, though I'd add that Fields still needs a lot of work on defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I think we should trade josh fields and Casey Rogowski for a top relief pitcher and maybe some prospects. We have first base covered for 5 years and if we sign Crede next year third will be wrapped up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Us resigning Crede is most likely a pipe dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 (edited) Us resigning Crede is most likely a pipe dream. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Isn't Crede arbitration eligible in 2007 and 2008? Edited March 22, 2006 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 07:50 AM) Isn't Crede arbitration eligible in 2007 and 2008? Yes. 2k5's almost certainly referring to any sort of long-term deal after that. Maybe even before that...if Fields is actually "Ready", Crede may very well find himself on the trading blocks, just because there is no chance we're going to sign him unless he switches agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 11:04 AM) Yes. 2k5's almost certainly referring to any sort of long-term deal after that. Maybe even before that...if Fields is actually "Ready", Crede may very well find himself on the trading blocks, just because there is no chance we're going to sign him unless he switches agents. Exactly. Crede is here at most until his arbit years are up. It might be sooner if KW can find a good deal to ship him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 10:08 AM) Exactly. Crede is here at most until his arbit years are up. It might be sooner if KW can find a good deal to ship him out. If Fields continues to struggle defensively (likely), and Crede's back holds up (possible), I think the Sox will try to stick with Crede and trade Fields. But payroll is always an issue of course, as is the team situation. If the Sox are losing and looking to restructure a bit, Crede is likely to go. If the Sox keep winning and keep a higher payroll, I'd bet they make him a reasonable contract offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 kool kool Now well see a tad bit more of the regulars. blakey + fields did a wonderful job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 08:14 AM) If Fields continues to struggle defensively (likely), and Crede's back holds up (possible), I think the Sox will try to stick with Crede and trade Fields. But payroll is always an issue of course, as is the team situation. If the Sox are losing and looking to restructure a bit, Crede is likely to go. If the Sox keep winning and keep a higher payroll, I'd bet they make him a reasonable contract offer. It doesn't matter if they make him a reasonable contract offer if Scott Boras decides what a reasonable contract offer is. If Crede retains Boras as his agent, Boras will almost certainly advise Crede to not accept any long-term deals past his final year of arbitration eligibility without first testing the FA market to see if his price gets bumped up. That's what he does with everyone. And if they test the FA market once and can't find the big deal they want, they sign a 1 year deal with whoever will take them and try to hit the jackpot the next year (Millwood, Weaver). That's Boras's obvious strategy; get to FA as fast as possible and then try to hit the jackpot then. His people simply don't sign long term deals without hitting the FA market, and they don't sacrifice FA years beforehand. In other words, if we hold onto Crede, he's almost certain to hit the FA market, and it'll take a Konerko-type-miracle for us to keep him then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I really, really hope Darren can put together a hell of a season and make a major league roster somewhere. He's probably the funniest guy in baseball that I've been around, and he's extremely nice to everyone. It's nice to have him in the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 11:34 AM) It doesn't matter if they make him a reasonable contract offer if Scott Boras decides what a reasonable contract offer is. If Crede retains Boras as his agent, Boras will almost certainly advise Crede to not accept any long-term deals past his final year of arbitration eligibility without first testing the FA market to see if his price gets bumped up. That's what he does with everyone. And if they test the FA market once and can't find the big deal they want, they sign a 1 year deal with whoever will take them and try to hit the jackpot the next year (Millwood, Weaver). That's Boras's obvious strategy; get to FA as fast as possible and then try to hit the jackpot then. His people simply don't sign long term deals without hitting the FA market, and they don't sacrifice FA years beforehand. In other words, if we hold onto Crede, he's almost certain to hit the FA market, and it'll take a Konerko-type-miracle for us to keep him then. yeah, but Crede has also made it clear that he dictates the final say with Boras. And thus far, we have avoided arbitration with him. No doubt Crede's price will be high, but I think the Boras factor is not as profound when the player himself is more involved in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 10:14 AM) If Fields continues to struggle defensively (likely), and Crede's back holds up (possible), I think the Sox will try to stick with Crede and trade Fields. But payroll is always an issue of course, as is the team situation. If the Sox are losing and looking to restructure a bit, Crede is likely to go. If the Sox keep winning and keep a higher payroll, I'd bet they make him a reasonable contract offer. If fields keeps progressing this year, its more feasible for us to get rid of crede and keep Fields. We need to start securing some funds to re-sign pitching especially MB. Not to mention, it appears Fields is almost as good of a hitter as Crede at this point, and he is still improving. Blakely would be a good player to have on a major league roster some day, if he could learn to hit breaking balls better. The guy flat out rakes fastballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 09:45 AM) yeah, but Crede has also made it clear that he dictates the final say with Boras. And thus far, we have avoided arbitration with him. No doubt Crede's price will be high, but I think the Boras factor is not as profound when the player himself is more involved in the process. Avoiding arbitration with Crede is not the problem. The problem is the years after arbitration. And whether or not Crede has the final say, Boras still gives him advice about what is best for him financially, and that is seen through the Boras lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 11:47 AM) If fields keeps progressing this year, its more feasible for us to get rid of crede and keep Fields. We need to start securing some funds to re-sign pitching especially MB. Not to mention, it appears Fields is almost as good of a hitter as Crede at this point, and he is still improving. Blakely would be a good player to have on a major league roster some day, if he could learn to hit breaking balls better. The guy flat out rakes fastballs. I see what you are saying. And that is likely the path they will take. But I do think it depends on where we are at going into 2007, and again into 2008: are we looking post-season or re-structuring? How is crede's back? How is Fields' glove? I just don't think Fields is a shoe-in just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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