Admission To U. of I. gets tougher

[SnB]

http://suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-uofijam24.html

 

Thank God I applied 2 years ago and not now.

[Gene Honda Civic]

Back in the day, I was wait-listed, and offered deferred admission. I shouldn't have applied to the school of engineering (? I don't even remember anymore).

 

Looking back on it. I probably should have accepted the deferred admission and had an extended summer, plus a semester of full-time grunt work somewhere, maybe getting some gen-eds out of the way at a CC. I probably would have been a lot better off for it.

[SnB]

Back in the day, I was wait-listed, and offered deferred admission. I shouldn't have applied to the school of engineering (? I don't even remember anymore).

 

Looking back on it. I probably should have accepted the deferred admission and had an extended summer, plus a semester of full-time grunt work somewhere, maybe getting some gen-eds out of the way at a CC. I probably would have been a lot better off for it.

What did you major in at Iowa?

 

My one friend in high school got a 32 on his ACT and got rejected from the college of engineering the year we applied ('04).

 

Well on the other hand, I'm stuck in the college of LAS, I got rejected for my college of business transfer yesterday :banghead .

[RockRaines]

http://suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-uofijam24.html

 

Thank God I applied 2 years ago and not now.

Looks like its the same as it has been to me.

 

Stacey Kostell, director of undergraduate admissions, acknowledged the school had gotten more competitive this year but said admission criteria haven't changed and that she still expects to accept close to two-thirds of students who apply. She said last year, the school saw an uncharacteristic decrease in applications; this year was closer to levels in the recent past.

[WCSox]

U of I is beginning to rival Northwestern in academics. Good for them. I'm sick and tired of seeing universities lower their standards simply to pad their bottom line.

[Gene Honda Civic]

What did you major in at Iowa?

 

My one friend in high school got a 32 on his ACT and got rejected from the college of engineering the year we applied ('04). 

 

Well on the other hand, I'm stuck in the college of LAS, I got rejected for my college of business transfer yesterday  :banghead .

EE / Comp E @ ISU

 

I had a 30, and a ton of AP credit, (I had 25+ credit hours when I entered school). I had a relatively low GPA though considering the amount of weighted classes I took. Anything that wasn't weighted or that I didn't find interesting, I tanked. I just didn't care.

 

After I applied, my aunt (a school teacher) told me I should have applied to LAS and transfered after a year or two. But I'm the eldest child, first to go to college, and fiercely independent. I made sure I did everything myself, without the input of friends, family, or counselers (mine had a heart attack during my senior year, and I wasn't assigned a replacement).

 

I still have trouble accepting help from others. Easily one of my biggest weaknesses.

[RockRaines]

U of I is beginning to rival Northwestern in academics. 

Easy there killler.

[WCSox]

Easy there killler.

 

[RockRaines]

Are you really serious?

 

NU is the 12th ranked national university by US News. I wouldnt say U of I is comparable academically.

[SnB]

Are you really serious?

 

NU is the 12th ranked national university by US News.  I wouldnt say U of I is comparable academically.

42nd I believe, 3rd public school.

[Steff]

U of I is beginning to rival Northwestern in academics.

 

 

They wish.

[Steff]

Are you really serious?

 

NU is the 12th ranked national university by US News.  I wouldnt say U of I is comparable academically.

 

 

^

[WHarris1]

[SnB]

They wish.

comparing public to private is like apples to oranges. But it's one of the top public schools in the country, so as an in-state tuition option, it's hard to beat.

[WCSox]

Are you really serious?

 

NU is the 12th ranked national university by US News.  I wouldnt say U of I is comparable academically.

 

Those rankings are based heavily on reputation. In terms of grant money and the overall quality of the students, I don't see a vast difference.

 

Agreed that Northwestern is still the better school, but U of I has gotten a lot closer over the past decade.

[3E8]

I got a perfect score on math portions of both ACT and SAT, top 15% high school GPA, and still got rejected four years ago.

[Flash Tizzle]

U of I is beginning to rival Northwestern in academics.  Good for them.  I'm sick and tired of seeing universities lower their standards simply to pad their bottom line.

I wouldn't doubt it.

 

My cousin is a law graduate from University of Chicago, and said the most difficult aspect of such a prestigious university is admissions. Beyond that, everyone across the nation is learning the same material. Only so many methods to teach business ethics, or understand Quantum physics. One school doesn't have access to exclusion information another doesn't.

 

A paper enscribed "Northwestern" is worth more than "University of Illinois," but why? Reputation. Professors with published material in their field and extended education select schools known for their high standards. But truthfully, is a professor with an elaborate resume and 15 years of experience any better at teaching material than someone less credited, although with 25+ years?

 

Think about this--how does one even judge a school's academics? By the students themselves? By the ACT scores of incoming students? By the jobs these students hold after graduating? It's sort of a ridiculous system.

 

If I were to tell anyone UIC is the second most difficult school academically in Chicago, they'd probably laugh. But it's true--if you were to judge by the academic history of professors. Atleast in engineering and several LAS programs This is because there's an odd system of transfer which happens in Chicago. UofC professors often are stolen by UIC. Our school is labeled a "research institution," which attracts top-tier professors from the school. So why isn't UIC a more highly regarded institution academically? Low admission standards brought on a student population of 10,000. An ACT score of 20 could probably get you in.

 

Many people expected our school's child psychology program to be rated within the top 10 in the nation this past fall. An entire team of psychologists from U of C transfered over to our college from their nationally ranked program By logic, you would expect the rating to move over to ours, but it didn't. So many factors--many political--go into judging one school over another.

 

U of I probably dos have their share of quality professors. Just because they're not appointed with a spot on Princeton Review/US News doesn't mean s***.

Edited March 25, 2006 by Flash Tizzle

[Nokona]

They're taking the smart kids from out of state for the extra dollar.

 

That's all.

 

And they wonder why kids from Illinois go out of state.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

The blonde on the cover of the sun-times was cute...

[3E8]

They're taking the smart kids from out of state for the extra dollar.

 

That's all.

 

And they wonder why kids from Illinois go out of state.

90% of their student body is in-state.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

I got in via LAS (History) 5 years ago. I graduate in May certified with a minor in social studies secondary education.

 

I just look around the UIUC campus at some of the people who got in and I wonder "How the Bloody Hell did they get into here?"

 

For anybody getting in the education minor, we had all these meetings telling us how hard it would be to get into the minor, that we should work on our essay applications for months in advance, etc. I wrote my application at 10:30 pm the night before it was due and got in.

 

UIUC is turning into one big party school trying to make itself seem respectable. The disparity between north and south of Green is quite a sight to behold. Nothing says LAS like not having a mini-desk attached to your chair in the lecture hall (assuming the chair even works properly) It may just be my perception but it seems like it is more and more latte liberal rich kids who have mommy and daddy paying for all of their things getting let into this school. They bring their damn little Nalgene bottles with them like they'll never see water again, carrying coffees so big they could have their own Congressmen and think that their little Abercrombie shirts are badges to be Deputy Douchenozzle to any worker or other person they might see that's not in their frat/sorority who has done nothing wrong than not have their parents make over $90,000.

 

I'm not saying that all frats or sororities are bad because I am good friends with a few people from both. However, and even they agree, the vast majority of them and others on the campus are self-absorbed asshats. I can't even count the times anymore where some kid made fun of an O&M staff person (basically the guys/gals who clean the buildings and are all purpose janitors) just because of their job while chatting on their damn cell phone about the latest 'Survivor'.

 

Tons of people going to CO's and Kam's. I can piss all over my kitchen floor, turn off the lights and drink a stale beer standing in it -- and save myself $5 cover. It's all the ambiance of those two places without the airborne STDs, slutty girls, douchebag tool popped collar guys and the incredibly watered down alcohol. The damn hipsters are so annoying. But what really burns my ass is the growing number of kids at UIUC that say they like "every kind of music but country." Don't like country? Good for you, but don't f***ing advertise it. Funnier still is these same people will say "Well, I like 'I Love This Bar' by Toby Keith, 'Alcohol' by Brad Paisley, 'Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off' by Joe Nichols, 'Devil Went Down to Georgia' by CDB and everything by Johnny Cash but it is okay because those aren't country." It is almost like saying that country = redneck = less than human. If it doesn't fit in with the Starbucks latte liberal-Mickey Mantle liver transplant level of favoritism, then it must be bad.

 

My apologies for being so long winded, I just have a real ax to grind with this school and a lot of the people in it. I have met some quality people and had some quality times but too damn often I've met a bunch of very ignorant, classist, racist, homophobic and elitist f***s that refuse to admit their s*** stinks in my five years here. I'll admit that I'm f***ed up as well -- but the difference is that I admit and many people here do their best to hide it as if respectability simply means putting one's skeletons in a closet very well and acting like they're not there.

 

And that isn't even talking about the DI editors getting fired for printing cartoons, the forced DI staff sensitivity training after an 'I Hate Pam' cartoon made fun of somebody that cried hard enough to the school about it, the faux Chief debate (as if a mascot is the most important issue facing this University that people would be so dedicated to either side of the issue, even for years after they left the University...If people were serious about respecting the Native Americans then they'd help out funding schools etc. for Native Americans and if the latte liberal f***s were serious about racism etc., then they need look no further than the racial/class disparities going on right in CU and the surrounding areas. But that calls into question their privileges so they can't do that) and the school messing up my grade/credit hour audit to be just a mere 100+ hours incorrect.

[Queen Prawn]

My brother (4.0 student with his associates in arts) applied to UIC and was turned down and they refused to tell him why (he had his app in well in advance, the courses all transfer over - same courses I took before going to UIC). Kinda stinks.

[SnB]

LCR, you should come into some of the business classes I'm in. Completely full of greeks that think they're all going to be a CEO of some company.

 

Here's one of my theories: If you're wearing a north face jacket, there's a 95% chance I hate you.

 

You're right, there is an absolutely huge part of campus I dislike.....greatly. But the place is so big, you can't help but find your own niche, and that's what I love about it. It took me about 3 semesters to find it here, but I did and I've been loving it in champaign ever since.

[nitetrain8601]

I wouldn't doubt it.

 

My cousin is a law graduate from University of Chicago, and said the most difficult aspect of such a prestigious university is admissions. Beyond that, everyone across the nation is learning the same material. Only so many methods to teach business ethics, or understand Quantum physics. One school doesn't have access to exclusion information another doesn't.

 

A paper enscribed "Northwestern" is worth more than "University of Illinois," but why? Reputation. Professors with published material in their field and extended education select schools known for their high standards. But truthfully, is a professor with an elaborate resume and 15 years of experience any better at teaching material than someone less credited, although with 25+ years?

 

Think about this--how does one even judge a school's academics? By the students themselves? By the ACT scores of incoming students? By the jobs these students hold after graduating? It's sort of a ridiculous system.

 

If I were to tell anyone UIC is the second most difficult school academically in Chicago, they'd probably laugh. But it's true--if you were to judge by the academic history of professors. Atleast in engineering and several LAS programs This is because there's an odd system of transfer which happens in Chicago. UofC professors often are stolen by UIC. Our school is labeled a "research institution," which attracts top-tier professors from the school. So why isn't UIC a more highly regarded institution academically? Low admission standards brought on a student population of 10,000. An ACT score of 20 could probably get you in.

 

Many people expected our school's child psychology program to be rated within the top 10 in the nation this past fall. An entire team of psychologists from U of C transfered over to our college from their nationally ranked program  By logic, you would expect the rating to move over to ours, but it didn't. So many factors--many political--go into judging one school over another.

 

U of I probably dos have their share of quality professors. Just because they're not appointed with a spot on Princeton Review/US News doesn't mean s***.

 

 

UIC BABY!

 

It is a good school and I agree with everything you said here.

[Flash Tizzle]

Here's one of my theories: If you're wearing a north face jacket, there's a 95% chance I hate you.

Interesting. The particular brand does attract an astounding number of douche bags....

 

Since this topic is taken off course, I'll add one of my own theories concerning college. I noticed it several days ago.

 

-Collar popping is exclusively a northside/downtown phenomenon. I've only turned 21 two weeks ago, but since I've been on spring break this week I've had time to go around numerous bars. Of the four I've been to on the Southside I haven't seen ONE f***er popping their collar. Of the four I've been to on the Northside (spec. Rush/Division St.) there have been several in each bar. Wonder what could be said about that.