Dam8610 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 08:36 PM) If only the Espn "experts" work in the printed word so that I could have something to wipe my ass with. ESPN the Magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) I could care less about predictions. But damn, how are we not the favorites to atleast win the division going into the season? Edited March 28, 2006 by Jordan4life_2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 08:39 PM) ESPN the Magazine. I now realize that I have insulted toilet paper, ... as have the Espn "experts". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 06:19 PM) Twins will be lucky to finish third. They look terrible. I don't think they will play .500 ball. I don't want to sound like an ass or anything but you're just wrong here. There is no way the Twins finish under .500, it's not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 06:15 PM) Twins are my pick to win it if we don't. Yeup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleHose4Life35 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 As much as seeing those predictions makes me mad, last year was the same no respect, and look how that turned out. Predictions are meaningless, if predictions mattered they wouldn't play the games at all. The Sox just have to go out there and prove their doubters wrong again. I would like to see where the experts that didn't pick the Sox to make the playoffs have the Sox finishing in the Central this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 If only the Espn "experts" work in the printed word so that I could have something to wipe my ass with. It's better as a fishwrap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Predictions are meaningless, if predictions mattered they wouldn't play the games at all. You don't say? I think we should just do the Diamond Mind simulation 1000 times and see who wins the world series the most in 1000 seasons. That team is thus crowned the 2006 champion. It could even be like when Kasparov played "Big Blue", and we could all watch on TV as the simulated baseball played out. They could sell tickets and Joe Morgan would announce that he's boycotting the event because "computers didn't play The Game". I really think that would be a good idea. Screw the actual games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 08:52 PM) I don't want to sound like an ass or anything but you're just wrong here. There is no way the Twins finish under .500, it's not going to happen. I'm wondering why the hell Francisco Liriano is in their bullpen. Must be due to a desire to limit innings, because it sure as hell isn't performance based. A rotation of Santana/Liriano/Baker/Radke/Silva sure as hell beats Santana/Lohse/Baker/Radke/Silva Liriano will do well no matter where he pitchers, but it's not like comparing our situation with Contreras and McCarthy. Lohse won't confuse anyone for an ace, and Liriano could definitely be counted upon to provide better numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 06:19 PM) Only one person, Neyer, picked the Twins to win the Central. 8 of 13 have the Sox winning the Central, 9 of 13 have us going to the playoffs. But I must say, I don't get the Indians love. Every indication, to me, says they will likely be worse this year instead of better. Their offseason was not good. And I am very surprised that only Rogers has the Sox even making the WS, even though it seems in nearly every way, the Sox are a better team this year than last year. I can very easily see the Indians receding this year...losing a very solid outfielder in Crisp, losing the ERA king of last year(who, BTW, didn't win double digit games) in Millwood, losing their "stud" of a 5th starter in Scott Elarton, losing two good relievers in Howry and Rhodes, and replacing them with lesser talent. I can see it happening. I don't think it will happen. I think 3 teams in the AL Central are going to win 90+ games next year, and one will win triple digits. As it stands right now, I have Minnesota coming in 3rd with somewhere around a 91-71 record, which would be ridiculous if I'm actually right. If the Sox pen holds up well enough and repeats enough success from last year, and they stay healthy enough, they're a 100 win team with no doubt at all in my mind. Cleveland falls somewhere between 90-97 wins, depending upon health and if they forget about Jason Johnson at about the ASB or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I can very easily see the Indians receding this year...losing a very solid outfielder in Crisp, losing the ERA king of last year(who, BTW, didn't win double digit games) in Millwood, losing their "stud" of a 5th starter in Scott Elarton, losing two good relievers in Howry and Rhodes, and replacing them with lesser talent. I can see it happening. I don't think it will happen. I think 3 teams in the AL Central are going to win 90+ games next year, and one will win triple digits. As it stands right now, I have Minnesota coming in 3rd with somewhere around a 91-71 record, So Cleveland will "regress" by one game to 92 wins. They won 93 last year. I really disagree with your whole post--the things your prodicted are extremely rare, and by your own admission, a team that won 93 last year, is in for a serious regression. You didn't say "serious", but that is how infer your comments to mean. And yet you have them winning 92 games logically. I'm going to go out on a limb here--no team in the AL will win 100 games. And, no division will produce three 90 games winners--not even the central. These things are rare, and no team in the central looks capable of more than 95 wins right now, let alone 100. The Sox played brilliant baseball last year and still "only" won 99. If you see that happening again + some, fine, I won't waste me time saying while not--only I urge us to come back in October and see whose prediction was closer to the real outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 09:04 PM) I could care less about predictions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Then why don't you care less about them? It's "couldn't care less." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 11:14 PM) Then why don't you care less about them? It's "couldn't care less." That is one of my bigger pet peeves, it seems like no one says it correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Haven't the Patriots taught us that nothing is more pathetic than a CHAMPION whimpering about getting no respect? Crasnick meanwhile called the White Sox the strongest team in MLB. He says, "...here's a look at the 30 big-league clubs (listed by estimated strength)..." First on the list? Your Chicago White Sox. Because the ESPN columnists don't take their own predictions 1/10th as seriously as many here do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 10:53 PM) I think 3 teams in the AL Central are going to win 90+ games next year, and one will win triple digits. With an unbalanced schedule I think that's impossible without 2 teams losing a TON of games. Since I doubt either Detroit or KC will lose as many games as last year, this scenario is improbable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(G&T @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 11:23 PM) With an unbalanced schedule I think that's impossible without 2 teams losing a TON of games. Since I doubt either Detroit or KC will lose as many games as last year, this scenario is improbable. Detroit is a team that baffles me. With Mags healthy, Kenny Rogers, Polanco a whole year (assuming he keeps it up), Guillen healthy, Bonderman with a little less pressure, Jason Johnson gone... they could win a whole lot of games... yet at the same time, are Granderson, Verlander, and Zumaya (sp?, can't remember haha) ready, was Shelton a one time deal, Inge at 3B is still dumb to me. I don't know what to make of them. They could lose a whole lot of games too. I think they will jump the Twins for third personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(PaleHose4Life35 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 10:05 PM) I would like to see where the experts that didn't pick the Sox to make the playoffs have the Sox finishing in the Central this season. Ask Dimitri Young that question.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I'm wondering why they cut Pena loose, he's a solid starting 1B on a number of teams. I wouldn't mind the Sox signing him and cutting Gload loose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 11:33 PM) I'm wondering why they cut Pena loose, he's a solid starting 1B on a number of teams. I wouldn't mind the Sox signing him and cutting Gload loose... I live in Michigan, and I am not too firmilar with any Tiger fans who like him. They have too many guys similar positions too. Granderson eventually needs to be allowed to play. Shelton took Pena's job last year. Polanco could (should) go to 3B and let Infante go back to 2B. Monroe in left still? Nook won the CF job last year. I am a big Marcus Thames fan. So more or less, too many pegs, not enough spaces. Pena has always seemed a headcase to me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 10:33 PM) I'm wondering why they cut Pena loose, he's a solid starting 1B on a number of teams. I wouldn't mind the Sox signing him and cutting Gload loose... Other then a little more power, he doesn't do anything for us that Gload doesn't. Edited March 28, 2006 by Jordan4life_2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 11:38 PM) Other then a little more power, he doesn't do anything for us that Gload doesn't. He is a .243 career hitter. He does less for us IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) I'm wondering why they cut Pena loose, he's a solid starting 1B on a number of teams. I wouldn't mind the Sox signing him and cutting Gload loose... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would rather have Gload than Pena. Pena is not the guy I would want off the bench. Sure, he can put up a decent OPS but he's strikes out far too much, hits around .240, and can only play 1B. Gload can back up 1B and at least play some LF. Hee-Seop Choi would have been a better option than Carlos Pena anyways, if we actually needed another first baseman. Edited March 28, 2006 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(SuperSteve @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 10:43 PM) He is a .243 career hitter. He does less for us IMHO. Yup, k's a ton, too. The guy was released for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) Yup, k's a ton, too. The guy was released for a reason. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tigers fans called him Karlos Pena. Kinda like Korey Patterson. Edited March 28, 2006 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 QUOTE(SuperSteve @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 10:36 PM) I live in Michigan, and I am not too firmilar with any Tiger fans who like him. They have too many guys similar positions too. Granderson eventually needs to be allowed to play. Shelton took Pena's job last year. Polanco could (should) go to 3B and let Infante go back to 2B. Monroe in left still? Nook won the CF job last year. I am a big Marcus Thames fan. So more or less, too many pegs, not enough spaces. Pena has always seemed a headcase to me too. Polanco >>>>>>> Infante -- Both offensively and defensively. Plus why would you want to remove Inge from the line-up only to be replaced by Infante? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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