Steff Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 http://www.11alive.com/help/search/search_...x?storyid=77880 Reported By: Marc Pickard Last Modified: 3/28/2006 12:38:10 PM Americans have a knack for expressing opinions with bumper stickers, from pride for the military, to pride for a student, to pride for a university, to pride for a favorite baseball team. Denise Grier says she was not feeling pride when, last June, she affixed a sentiment (“I'm Tired of All the Bush--”) to her right rear bumper. “With the performance of Bush, I feel like, you know, he's not done what he was elected to do. I don't feel like he's telling us the truth, and those are my personal feelings," Grier said. Until this past June, it was the only bumper sticker Grier had on her car. On March 10, she was pulled over by a DeKalb police officer. “He said, ‘do you know why I stopped you?’ And I said, ‘no I have no idea.’ And he said, ‘you have a lewd decal on your car.’ And I said, ‘I do?’ My first thought was one of my children had put something obscene or filthy on my car,” said Grier. The officer said the offending bumper sticker violated a law against lewd, obscene and vulgar vehicle decals. The American Civil Liberties Union points to action by the Georgia Supreme Court 15 years ago that overturned that law. “A law, such as lewd bumper stickers is unenforceable. What’s lewd to one person is not lewd to another. And it allows officers to end up citing people just because they don’t like the views expressed,” said Gerry Webster of the Georgia ACLU. Despite the furor, Grier says she would do it all over again. “Each of us has a right to free speech", she said. "And if I don't speak out for it, who will?" Grier says she's not an activist, just a nurse who happens to have a court date in April over a controversial political bumper sticker. That cop would be out of tickets in 10 minutes in the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 30, 2006 -> 10:04 AM) http://www.11alive.com/help/search/search_...x?storyid=77880 Reported By: Marc Pickard Last Modified: 3/28/2006 12:38:10 PM Americans have a knack for expressing opinions with bumper stickers, from pride for the military, to pride for a student, to pride for a university, to pride for a favorite baseball team. Denise Grier says she was not feeling pride when, last June, she affixed a sentiment (“I'm Tired of All the Bush--”) to her right rear bumper. “With the performance of Bush, I feel like, you know, he's not done what he was elected to do. I don't feel like he's telling us the truth, and those are my personal feelings," Grier said. Until this past June, it was the only bumper sticker Grier had on her car. On March 10, she was pulled over by a DeKalb police officer. “He said, ‘do you know why I stopped you?’ And I said, ‘no I have no idea.’ And he said, ‘you have a lewd decal on your car.’ And I said, ‘I do?’ My first thought was one of my children had put something obscene or filthy on my car,” said Grier. The officer said the offending bumper sticker violated a law against lewd, obscene and vulgar vehicle decals. The American Civil Liberties Union points to action by the Georgia Supreme Court 15 years ago that overturned that law. “A law, such as lewd bumper stickers is unenforceable. What’s lewd to one person is not lewd to another. And it allows officers to end up citing people just because they don’t like the views expressed,” said Gerry Webster of the Georgia ACLU. Despite the furor, Grier says she would do it all over again. “Each of us has a right to free speech", she said. "And if I don't speak out for it, who will?" Grier says she's not an activist, just a nurse who happens to have a court date in April over a controversial political bumper sticker. That cop would be out of tickets in 10 minutes in the city. That is ridiculous. Nothing lewd about that at all. I think most people have had enough of the Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Putting curse words on your car is free speech? I don't like any of them: 1-800-EAT-s***, etc. I think it's stupid and should not be allowed. Now if she wanted a "Don't blame me. I voted for Kerry" sticker - fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Mar 30, 2006 -> 09:14 AM) That is ridiculous. Nothing lewd about that at all. I think most people have had enough of the Bush. Nothing lewd at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Deceiving headlines are fun!! If she had a "Don't blame me, I voted for Kerry" or even a "Bush Sucks" bumper stick, ok. But THAT bumper sticker is out of line due to the language, regardless of the fact it's refering to Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I hate the bootleg Calvin stickers. Anybody with one of those deserves the tickets that they might get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mplssoxfan Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 (edited) This might get this sent to the Filibuster, but... If someone had a bumpersticker that said "Barack is full of ****" or "Hiliary is a ****head", would the cop have pulled them over? If the cop let one car go by with the 1-800-EAT-**** sticker, he should let everything go. EDIT: Oops, it's Dekalb, Georgia, not Illinois. I'm guessing there wouldn't be a lot of call for anti-Obama bumperstickers in the ATL. Edited March 30, 2006 by Mplssoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Mar 30, 2006 -> 09:30 AM) This might get this sent to the Filibuster, but... If someone had a bumpersticker that said "Barack is full of ****" or "Hiliary is a ****head", would the cop have pulled them over? If the cop let one car go by with the 1-800-EAT-**** sticker, he should let everything go. EDIT: Oops, it's Dekalb, Georgia, not Illinois. I'm guessing there wouldn't be a lot of call for anti-Obama bumperstickers in the ATL. I would hope he would. I have a problem with the language not the "political" message - though it does show her educational level somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Yeah to me the whole title of the article is wrong. She wasn't ticketed because of an anti-Bush sticker she was ticketed cause it said _ _s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Surprise of the day -- I agree with those who say there is a problem with the profanity aspect of the bumper sticker in question, if not the message. Even before I had kids, I always cringed at profanity written/said in public places. Man, I hope my kids don't find this board while surfing around! And we'll never know if the cop would have pulled her over for a non expliive-laden equivalent of the same sentiment – "I voted for Gore/Kerry," "Bushwhacked Again," etc. My favorite borderline obscene anti-Bush bumper stickers were the "Lick Bush in (insert year here)". They were veiled enough that kids didn't see any obscenity I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Mar 30, 2006 -> 10:11 AM) Yeah to me the whole title of the article is wrong. She wasn't ticketed because of an anti-Bush sticker she was ticketed cause it said _ _s***. I just heard a conversation this morning about how we are becoming de-sensitized to certain "bad" words. There are a number of words that you hear regularly on the radio or TV that they would never dream of using 20 years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Mar 30, 2006 -> 10:21 AM) I just heard a conversation this morning about how we are becoming de-sensitized to certain "bad" words. There are a number of words that you hear regularly on the radio or TV that they would never dream of using 20 years ago... I quit letting my daughter watch the Simpsons when she started running around the house screaming, "Damn! Damn! Damn!" like Homer. It was funny, but not good at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Mar 30, 2006 -> 07:14 AM) That is ridiculous. Nothing lewd about that at all. I think most people have had enough of the Bush. Not all of us live by Howard Stern's standards of decency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mplssoxfan Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 On a somewhat different tangent, is writing someone a ticket for a lewd bumpersticker productive use of a cop's time? In the last two weeks, there's been a murder two blocks from my house and a friend of mine was robbed/mugged two blocks from where I work, both of which are unusual for my neighborhood, granted. If I heard of a police officer pulling over someone for a bumpersticker, I'd be livid. I assume that there are actual crimes being committed in DeKalb County GA. Maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 30, 2006 Author Share Posted March 30, 2006 QUOTE(WCSox @ Mar 30, 2006 -> 11:05 AM) Not all of us live by Howard Stern's standards of decency. This is waaaaaaaaaaaay below Stern standards. At the very least the slang for penis or vagina would have to be in there to even come close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Mar 30, 2006 -> 12:33 PM) On a somewhat different tangent, is writing someone a ticket for a lewd bumpersticker productive use of a cop's time? In the last two weeks, there's been a murder two blocks from my house and a friend of mine was robbed/mugged two blocks from where I work, both of which are unusual for my neighborhood, granted. If I heard of a police officer pulling over someone for a bumpersticker, I'd be livid. I assume that there are actual crimes being committed in DeKalb County GA. Maybe not. For real. Glad to see taxpayer money put to good use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 when i first read this i didn't realize the bumper sticker said s***... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 oooooh a bad word, big deal. why one word is deem "bad" over another never made sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(MEANS @ Mar 30, 2006 -> 12:22 PM) oooooh a bad word, big deal. why one word is deem "bad" over another never made sense to me. I'm always amazed. My kids know pretty much all the words and what they mean. They also know that they aren't allowed to use them. They're going to see/hear them their whole lives no matter how much you try to shelter them. It's just a matter of teaching them that they are only for adults. Edited March 30, 2006 by Iwritecode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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