DBAHO Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Didn't the D-Backs keep Andy Green on the 40 man roster as a backup infielder, and they signed Easley instead of keeping Uggla? Oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 The Marlins won again tonight beating the O's, thats now 9 straight, and Dan Uggla is a beast!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 The Marlins have been most impressive and seem to really understand how to develop young talent much like the Braves have over the years. Obviously not at the same level as the Bravos yet but they seem to draft, trade for, pick up and develop young talent with the best of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I agree their FO is talented, but their owner sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 QUOTE(BFirebird @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 01:53 AM) The Marlins have been most impressive and seem to really understand how to develop young talent much like the Braves have over the years. Obviously not at the same level as the Bravos yet but they seem to draft, trade for, pick up and develop young talent with the best of them. Credit goes to Larry Beinfest, probably the most underrated GM in baseball, and his assistant Mike Hill. Their track record since day one has been outstanding. We're very glad to have them here (in Florida). QUOTE(beautox @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 01:57 AM) I agree their FO is talented, but their owner sucks. Jeffrey Loria is not at fault for the Marlins' problems; former owner H. Wayne Huizenga is the true culprit. Huizenga screwed the team and its fans in '97, and he continued screwing them after he sold the team, by forcing the new owners to sign a lease for use of the stadium (which Huizenga still owns) that's not only one of the highest in the business, but also one of the most constricting. Luxury suite rentals, parking, advertisements, concessions, even a percentage of all merchandise sold -- all that money goes to Huizenga, not the team. Even during the '03 postseason run, HWH made a killing off the Marlins by making Loria pay extra to open the extra seating sections necessary to accomodate the masses. That is why things happened the way they did last winter. We need our own stadium to escape the suffocating grip of Huizenga (and his cronies in the local media and goverment). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 thanks for all the great insight beetle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHAMBARONS Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 20, 2006 -> 06:11 AM) Didn't the D-Backs keep Andy Green on the 40 man roster as a backup infielder, and they signed Easley instead of keeping Uggla? Oops. The problem is he would have made the Tucson team even better than it is. Melvin is not a good manager and he believes in playing under performing overpaid vets instead of the prospects that are tearing up Tucson. Uggla would not have seen any playing time here because of Melvin's coaching style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Beetle gave great insight, except I'm surprised he's so pro Loria. Loria ruined and moved a team out of Montreal, and he's seemed to be doing the exact same thing in Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 (edited) I'm not pro-Loria. I just don't think it's fair to put all the blame for the Marlins' situation on him. As I pointed out, the problems were there long before he arrived. In fact, I have plenty of criticism for our current owner; most significantly putting his stepson David Samson in charge of the business. Samson is a very un-charismatic man -- incompetent as a team president, horrible as a spokesperson, and with an infuriating tendency to rub everyone who comes in contact with him the wrong way. He is, in short (no pun intended), living proof of why nepotism is wrong. I also don't believe (and never have) that he wants to move the team. Neither does MLB, for that matter. But, he had to give the relocation tactic a try; after all, it did work in the past for other teams seeking stadiums. Edited June 21, 2006 by Beetle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 QUOTE(Beetle @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 09:35 AM) Credit goes to Larry Beinfest, probably the most underrated GM in baseball, and his assistant Mike Hill. Their track record since day one has been outstanding. We're very glad to have them here (in Florida). Jeffrey Loria is not at fault for the Marlins' problems; former owner H. Wayne Huizenga is the true culprit. Huizenga screwed the team and its fans in '97, and he continued screwing them after he sold the team, by forcing the new owners to sign a lease for use of the stadium (which Huizenga still owns) that's not only one of the highest in the business, but also one of the most constricting. Luxury suite rentals, parking, advertisements, concessions, even a percentage of all merchandise sold -- all that money goes to Huizenga, not the team. Even during the '03 postseason run, HWH made a killing off the Marlins by making Loria pay extra to open the extra seating sections necessary to accomodate the masses. That is why things happened the way they did last winter. We need our own stadium to escape the suffocating grip of Huizenga (and his cronies in the local media and goverment). Hey, as soon as you Marlins get out of our stadium the better.. Im tired of worrying about players getting hurt because they have the play on that damned dirt infield until late september Im speaking of the Dolphins in case no one knew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangar18 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Dont know how they do it ............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHAMBARONS Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I would like to revisit a trade back in December: Pierre for Nolasco, Pinto, Mitre I though then the Marlins got the better end of that deal and know it is showing off. The Marlins got them selves a 23 year old pitcher who throws strikes and has a 5-3 record with 3.06 ERA, They also got a young lefty who I really liked in Renyel Pinto he is 6-2 with 2.98 ERA in Albuquerque which is the PCL equivalent to Coors Field. Then got another Major League pitcher is Mitre all for a .238 hitting no power or arm outfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Yea that trade by Hendry was in response to Scott Podsednik and the need to do a trade just for the sake of trading, another funny note is that Jacuqe Jones while doing alright, shouldn't have been signed they could've kept Patterson for 1/3 of his price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 QUOTE(beautox @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 09:44 PM) Yea that trade by Hendry was in response to Scott Podsednik and the need to do a trade just for the sake of trading, another funny note is that Jacuqe Jones while doing alright, shouldn't have been signed they could've kept Patterson for 1/3 of his price. For as much as Jones has done at the plate he's pretty much made up for it with his absolutely horrid work in RF, he has no arm, it just disappeared over the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 not only in RF but on the base paths, he just plain sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 The Marlins are the first team to shutout the Yankees this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygoat Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 give them 2 or 3 years and they will rock that nl central rolena and edmonds will be gone and the cubs will still be counting on kerry wood to come out of a coma and strikeout 20 guys again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 you realize they're from the NL east right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 QUOTE(beautox @ Jun 26, 2006 -> 05:04 PM) you realize they're from the NL east right? And appearantly Rolen is retiring which is news to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHAMBARONS Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Look out Phily the 3rd place Marlins are coming fast. One game back even in the Loss column Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 The Marlins are 34 - 41, & only 6.5 out of the WC, along with that they are.002 behind philly in the NL East for second. GO Fish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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