Guillen gets a tad upset with Iguchi

[Controlled Chaos]

Why does the media make do this. So Iguchi said "no comment", so fricken what. They have to run back to Ozzie and say "Hey Iguchi said no comment", then Ozzie snaps and makes his comment "I'm in charge...go home" and so on and so on. Both of Iguchi's comments may have been non confrontational. I wasn't there so I don't know exactly how he said them...but they seem to be just answers to a reporters questions. Saying "no comment" isn't a big deal. I don't mind Ozzie's in your face attitude, but I think it would be best if he can refrain from jumping on his players when he's getting the information from the media.

 

 

Guillen gets a tad upset with Iguchi

 

April 5, 2006

 

BY JOE COWLEY Staff Reporter Advertisement

 

White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen did his best to make sure his initial conversation with second baseman Tadahito Iguchi did not get lost in translation.

 

But when he heard that Iguchi had snapped off a "no comment'' to the media about not being in the starting lineup Tuesday, Guillen was adamant that the second-year major-leaguer from Japan was in full understanding -- language barrier or not -- about who the boss was.

 

"When you make the lineup, whoever likes it or whoever doesn't, too bad,'' Guillen said. "If he doesn't like it, go home.''

 

Iguchi arrived at the ballpark to find out he was benched with right-hander Jake Westbrook starting for the Cleveland Indians. Iguchi was 2-for-16 (.125) against Westbrook last season, so Guillen opted to go with switch hitter Alex Cintron to give him a left-handed look.

 

Guillen said he explained that to Iguchi through his translator and thought the topic was over. But when asked about it after batting practice, Iguchi said, "No comment.''

 

Sitting out games became a touchy subject with Iguchi late last season, when he felt Guillen's cautious approach with his playing time wasn't as necessary as it was earlier in the year.

 

When asked Tuesday if he was concerned with Guillen taking a similar approach this year, the usually soft-spoken Iguchi declared, "I didn't come back here to rest.''

 

That response didn't sit well with Guillen, either, especially because he felt Iguchi had understood where he was coming from in their morning talk.

 

"The thing I really said was if he has any questions, come ask me,'' Guillen said. "I told him about my situation. I make the lineup. If he likes it, he likes it. If he doesn't, big deal. I already explained to him why he's not playing. I explained to him that Westbrook is throwing the ball real well, and I think we have a better chance if we go with a lefty hitter.

 

"He's going to play when I tell him he's playing. Every time I put my lineup in, I put the lineup in that I feel gives us the best chance. I always think about my team before I think about the players. I talked to him, made sure he knew he's not in a backup situation. It's about that ballclub we're playing over there. He's going to rest, and then he'll be back in there.''

 

Guillen also sat starting center fielder Brian Anderson for left-handed hitter Rob Mackowiak. The Sox are scheduled to face left-handed pitchers in their next two games, so he didn't want Cintron and Mackowiak getting too much rest.

 

"If [Cintron and Mackowiak] don't play, then they would have to wait six or seven days to play,'' Guillen said. "That's not fair for them to sit that long and not get any action.

 

"Is [iguchi] an every-day player? Yes, he's an every-day player, but he plays when I say he plays.''

[Gregory Pratt]

Guillen needs to shut the f*** up and remember what it was like to be a player. Tadahito has every reason to be a tad frustrated by them putting in Cintron yesterday. I don't think he was being particularly confrontational, and Guillen should've been a little less tightly wound.

 

Iguchi is his "most valuable player," after all.

[chisox72]

I would find it hard to believe that Gooch would have been s***ty about not playing yesterday. I do understand his frustration with Guillen feeling that he needs to be treated with kid gloves because of the season length. Bottom line is, that while Iguchi may have been annoyed about not playing, I would rather have him say "no comment" and keep it to himself than b**** to someone with a mic about it.

 

In this instance, Ozzie's comments to the media are overboard. I think its more than UNDERSTOOD in that locker room that he plays who he plays, when he plays them. But his tirades on this subject get to be like beating a dead horse sometimes. We know he is in charge, his players know he is in charge. Chill out already.

 

That being said...lets kick some Indian ass today!

 

[Controlled Chaos]

Guillen needs to shut the f*** up and remember what it was like to be a player. Tadahito has every reason to be a tad frustrated by them putting in Cintron yesterday. I don't think he was being particularly confrontational, and Guillen should've been a little less tightly wound.

 

Iguchi is his "most valuable player," after all.

 

Exactly. I mean every player wants to play every day. After a pretty horrible spring....Gooch had a decent first game and probably just wanted to keep it rolling. So when asked he said "no comment". Why can't Guillen just say... Im glad my players to want to play every day...but I did it for...blah blah blah... reason or whatever. No need to snap like he did. Nobody was questioning his authority....

Edited April 5, 2006 by Controlled Chaos

[TheBigHurt]

a tad upset with Iguchi

 

[Harry Chappas]

From the highlights that I saw, Cintron looked to have the range of Ray Durham going up the middle which is not saying much, again I only saw the highlights.

[Harry&JimmyRocked]

Is this the start of ozzie losing his players? Iguchi isn't stupid. He just doesn't speak english. He can see that Cintron is there to take his job. Funny thing is that he has done nothing to lose it. Ozzie once again has taken the first shot at someone (see the arod saga). I think Ozzie is gonna buckle under the pressure. He almost did last year during the Indians big run, he admitted that. The pressure this year dwarves any pressure put on the southside team. There just seems to be too much going on with the team and we arent even one week into the season.

Edited April 6, 2006 by Harry&JimmyRocked

[WHarris1]

Is this the start of ozzie losing his players? 

Oh Lord.

[Harry&JimmyRocked]

Oh Lord.

 

 

Ozzie's act works when things are going well. When things are not going well, things will not be shrugged off and "It's just ozzie" will not be what you here the guys say.

[Soxpranos]

Is this the start of ozzie losing his players?  Iguchi isn't stupid.  He just doesn't speak english.  He can see that Cintron is there to take his job.  Funny thing is that he has done nothing to lose it.  Ozzie once again has taken the first shot at someone (see the arod saga).  I think Ozzie is gonna buckle under the pressure.  He almost did last year during the Indians big run, he admitted that.  The pressure this year dwarves any pressure put on the southside team.  There just seems to be too much going on with the team and we arent even one week into the season.

 

O.K., Yogi Berra, I think you had to many buds, just like your pal in your avatar use to.

 

[SSH2005]

Cintron is exactly that -- depth. Iguchi is our fourth best hitter after Thome, Konerko, and Dye and should not be losing too many AB's to Cintron. But Tad should still keep his mouth shut if Ozzie does choose to bench him.

[Harry&JimmyRocked]

And what is wrong with that? Why is Iguchi just the automatic starter. Its always good to have depth, and thats what Cintron is

 

I dont see what Oz did wrong at all.

Some people will find ANYTHING to b**** about.

 

once again sox fans practice the art of selective reading and jumping to conclusions. im not b****ing but asking a question and stating some insights. i asked if it was the start, a.k.a. a warning sign. depth is one thing but as i said, i see cintron there to take iguchi's job. i see iguchi seeing this too. it just looks like they're trying to put one over on mr tadahito. i did say that he's not stupid. all he said was no comment and ozzie went off. what's gonna happen later in the year if we're 5 games down? did i say ozzies move was wrong? do yourself a favor and put that 6th grade education to use and read. i think anyone in iguchi's position can see what the sox are doing. for the most "honest" organization out there (kw and ozzie's words) looks like it's a shady move.

[Harry&JimmyRocked]

Cintron is exactly that -- depth.  Iguchi is our fourth best hitter after Thome, Konerko, and Dye and should not be losing too many AB's to Cintron.  But Tad should still keep his mouth shut if Ozzie does choose to bench him.

 

he did keep his mouth shut and said no comment. and ozzie basically threw him under the bus. that's a move that makes you

[Buehrle>Wood]

Cintron is exactly that -- depth.  Iguchi is our fourth best hitter after Thome, Konerko, and Dye and should not be losing too many AB's to Cintron.  But Tad should still keep his mouth shut if Ozzie does choose to bench him.

He did keep his mouth shut....

[SSH2005]

He did keep his mouth shut....

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Good.

 

We need all the offense we can get. Iguchi is a better hitter than Cintron so I sure as hell hope he isn't benched too much this season.

[Harry&JimmyRocked]

you still havent responded to ozzie going off for no reason?

[SSH2005]

you still havent responded to ozzie going off for no reason?

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I think Iguchi should have probably made a better response than "no comment." He should have said something like, "I will do whatever is best for the team." Of course, Iguchi sitting on the bench really isn't what's best for the team due to him being our fourth best hitter. Ozzie probably shouldn't have snapped off like that. I wonder what Gload must be thinking. Dude can't even buy an at bat off the bench and he's our best pinch hitter.

Edited April 6, 2006 by SSH2005

[Harry&JimmyRocked]

I think Iguchi should have probably made a better response than "no comment."  He should have said something like, "I will do whatever is best for the team."  Of course, Iguchi sitting on the bench really isn't what's best for the team due to him being our fourth best hitter.  Ozzie probably shouldn't have snapped off like that.  I wonder what Gload must be thinking.  Dude can't even buy an at bat off the bench and he's our best pinch hitter.

 

totally agree on the Gload thing. i believe ozzie and kw just don't like him for some reason.

[fathom]

totally agree on the Gload thing.  i believe ozzie and kw just don't like him for some reason.

 

Then why in the hell did we keep him on the roster? He serves no purpose on the team right now, and we could use an extra righty outfielder on the bench.

[South Side Fireworks Man]

Cintron is exactly that -- depth.  Iguchi is our fourth best hitter after Thome, Konerko, and Dye and should not be losing too many AB's to Cintron.  But Tad should still keep his mouth shut if Ozzie does choose to bench him.

Tad said "No comment."

 

Cowley is a troublemaker, and Ozzie took the bait.

[fathom]

Why is this issue a surprise to anyone? Iguchi complained last year about having to sit so frequently, as he said he loses his rhythm when it happens.

[Flash Tizzle]

Tad said "No comment."

 

Cowley is a troublemaker, and Ozzie took the bait.

For anyone who doubts Cowley's intentions, just reflect on his Southtown days. What does you associate Cowley with when you hear his name? For me, it's controversy. He's someone who knows the stories that sell and is more than willing to accept the role of Mariotti, rather than a Mike Kiley apologist role. There's sure nothing special about his writing skills or exclusive access to ballplayers.

[greg775]

Guillen needs to shut the f*** up and remember what it was like to be a player.

 

Yes, but he's now the manager and his comments were good I thought. He said if he doesn't like it he can go home. Well put.

Cintron is a part of the team, just like Iguchi.

 

That said, Iguchi is really swinging the bat well.

Today's loss was frustrating in many ways but Iguchi was good again.

[DBAHO]

Why is this issue a surprise to anyone?  Iguchi complained last year about having to sit so frequently, as he said he loses his rhythm when it happens.

Wasn't Ozzie going to use Tad more this season as well (IIRC he said something like that a while back)?

 

All this stuff does is heighten the speculation that we won't pick up Iguchi's option at the end of the season, and Cintron becomes the new 2nd baseman.

[southsider2k5]

I think Iguchi should have probably made a better response than "no comment."  He should have said something like, "I will do whatever is best for the team."  Of course, Iguchi sitting on the bench really isn't what's best for the team due to him being our fourth best hitter.  Ozzie probably shouldn't have snapped off like that.  I wonder what Gload must be thinking.  Dude can't even buy an at bat off the bench and he's our best pinch hitter.

 

By the time the question got asked, translated, answered, translated back to English, the answer got recorded, and printed... How do you know he didn't? Factoring in the difference in subtleties between English, Spanish, and Japanese, Tadahito could very well have been giving a nonanswer, and probably was. Something like this is being blown way out of proportion for all of the potential grey areas here. Its hard enough to get information second hand in one language, let alone two or three. Its like a game of telephone to the extreme.