Flash Tizzle Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 speaking of Liriano...7IP 11 strikeouts 2ER tonight and got the W Twins on a 5 game win streak Anyone know how the search for our Liriano is moving along? Or have we resigned ourselves to the fact "he's a 1-1000 talent," "29 other teams would want him," or the money simply isn't put into heavily scouting Latin American countries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 17, 2006 -> 06:43 PM) Anyone know how the search for our Liriano is moving along? Or have we resigned ourselves to the fact "he's a 1-1000 talent," "29 other teams would want him," or the money simply isn't put into heavily scouting Latin American countries? Well Flash would you rather the money to be put into the major league payroll, or money taken out from that and put it into the Latin American Scouting System? The Sox have actually been active in getting some guys like Francisco Hernandez, Paulo Orlando etc. into our farm system. Not saying it compensates for a Liriano, but I'm sure 29 other teams would love to have a guy like him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 (edited) Didn't the sox build a huge baseball academy in Venezuela. Liriano was traded to the twins also. Fearless Leader The White Sox will be missing our fearless leader Ozzie Guillen today. Guillen made an overnight flight to Venezuela as part of a project to open a baseball Academy there. He will fly back today and re-join the team in Peoria tomorrow. Joey Cora will run the team in Oz's absence. Edited June 17, 2006 by Jimbo's Drinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jun 17, 2006 -> 10:08 AM) Didn't the sox build a huge baseball academy in Venezuela. Liriano was traded to the twins also. Yes, on both accounts. If Guillen's popularity in Venezuela is any indication, his name alone should attract talented young players. The next Felix Hernandez better be wearing a Whtie Sox uniform. Liriano was originally signed by San Francisco from the Dominican Republic. My point is, you don't find Liriano's in the 35th round of the Major League draft pitching at some community college. Need to actually scout. Yeah, attrition rates for Latin arms are high. But if even ONE legitimate talent emerges it's worth it. Problem is, our organization has had trouble developing anything from Latin America within the last 7 years. This is indisputable, whether or not you're under the impression obtaining a Liriano or Santana was due to "luck," and/or terrible Twins teams. I rather increase my chances, even if such probability slightly shifts from 2% to 5%, that heavily scouting one day lends us scary talent. If this is considered unreasonable, then excuse me for setting aspiriations beyond Felix Diaz and Arnie Munoz. Edited June 17, 2006 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Maglio doesn't count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Jun 17, 2006 -> 12:43 PM) Maglio doesn't count? Signed - 1991 (16 yrs old, I believe) Debuted - 1997 Lee Signed - 1994 Debuted - 1999 Since then - .......................... Even if you were to suggest, "well, there's proof it takes years for a Latin prospect to make the majors, " it's been 7 years since we've had even a DECENT prospect from Latin America. I'm not even talking about two on the level of Ordonez or Lee; but on the level of Timo Perez. It's really been pathetic. JimH insists we have scouts down there, and apparently, they're doing something besides drinking Coronas and scouting women. The way I look at it, they've done s*** for nearly a decade. It's been one long vacation. Edited June 17, 2006 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Johan Santana through 14 starts and 96.1 IP he has 104 Ks and only 16 BBs he's allowed a whopping (seriously) 11 HRs (half of what he gave up last year), his WHIP is actually high for him at 1.02 as is his .228 BAA on top of all this he has a 2.99 ERA. He's struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Well the first two batters have had no problem with Prior. Will the Cubs even score off Rogers? Edit: ballgame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Prince homers, 1-0 Brewers in the bottom of the 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Such a great game pitched by Doug Davis for Milwaukee tonight, he gets pinch hit for..and the next inning, the reliever gives the lead back.. I hate that. 1-1 in the 8th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Millwaukee's defense lets them down, 3-1 Tiggers in the bottom of the 8th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 f***ing Tigers will not lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfan Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Could say the same for the Sox right about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 09:30 PM) f***ing Tigers will not lose. Well, they're doing what they're supposed to do. They can't beat a good team to save their lives but they've won every single game that they're supposed to win. We're just going to have to take care of our business and take care of them when we play 'em. On a side note, our wild card lead keeps extending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I'm still just angry about them constantly coming back in games. They're certainly for real. And I don't know anything about that Matt Wise, except that a few people here want him on the Sox. What's so great about a 4.68 ERA in the NL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 How bad is the Indians' pitching? Allowing 12 runs to the Cubs? QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 09:30 PM) f***ing Tigers will not lose. We're not gonna get any help from the garbage NL central. We just have to keep the heat on them ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 We have like a 6 game lead in the Wild Card. I know everybody thinks we're "above" that since we won it all last year, but if we take care of buisness that playoff spot is a lock, regardless of what the Tigers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 10:12 PM) We have like a 6 game lead in the Wild Card. I know everybody thinks we're "above" that since we won it all last year, but if we take care of buisness that playoff spot is a lock, regardless of what the Tigers do. 5.5 and the thing is it's too early to worry about the wild card. Right now we're a whole two games behind the Tigers and our goal is to win the division. That being said if it comes down to us making the playoffs by winning the wild card, I don't think anyone is going to complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 10:14 PM) 5.5 and the thing is it's too early to worry about the wild card. Right now we're a whole two games behind the Tigers and our goal is to win the division. That being said if it comes down to us making the playoffs by winning the wild card, I don't think anyone is going to complain. My point is basically that I have little concern about the Tigers. We can't control them, and if we keep winning we'll be fine. The Tiger anguish is not needed unless we're playing like s***, which we aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 09:12 PM) We have like a 6 game lead in the Wild Card. I know everybody thinks we're "above" that since we won it all last year, but if we take care of buisness that playoff spot is a lock, regardless of what the Tigers do. The goal should be the division and we should concede nothing until somebody clinches something. What made me sick about the Cubs the past few years is how quickly they conceded the division to St. Louis... we can definitely win this thing. Howver, I will agree with you that it is very nice to know we are far ahead in the WC standings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 indians release jason johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 QUOTE(thedoctor @ Jun 20, 2006 -> 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> indians release jason johnson I so remember talking about how bad of a signing this guy was by pointing out his 6.66 Road ERA last year, his career numbers being worse than Elarton's, and how he's 30 something games under .500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I like the trade the Royals made with Tampa for Gathright, I think that's a good almost no risk move for KC. If he turns out they've got a real speedster, not happy that he went there. Since he cost so little I wish the White Sox could've found a way to get him. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTalkThai Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 (edited) Rick Helling's 2006 debut lasted just 2.1 giving up 6 runs. Magglio delivered two of Helling's babies DEEP into the left field bleaches to the tune of 4 RBI. Even Detroit's rookie starter crushed a no doubt double off of Helling. It was an ugly premier. 6-0 Tigers. EDIT: 8-0 Tigers. Monroe with a two run jack...still in the 3rd. Edited June 21, 2006 by JackTalkThai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfan Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 10-0 now in the 4th, Pudge went deep with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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