redandwhite Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 http://www.taylorhooton.org/guestbook_vie.asp?page=16 I am a steroid, and I am mad. Why have I become such a bad word in this country when I do so much good in this world? Why has my honorable name been soiled just because a few dishonorable athletes have abused me? Renowned doctors worldwide have called me a wonder drug, but I am being portrayed nationally as the dirty little secret of the hulked-up, bulked-up juicers in Major League Baseball. I am actually being painted by grandstanding politicians as a death sentence for the youth of America. Let me tell you something. My job is to rescue kids, not kill them. I have saved thousands upon thousands of premature babies who are injected with me to help their little lungs develop quickly so they can breath, so they can live. Without me, these babies, some of whom don't even weigh 1 pound, would be killed by something called "Respiratory Distress Syndrome" -- a sometimes fatal disorder where the air sacs collapse in their underdeveloped lungs. "There's no question that steroids have saved the lives of many babies," says Dr. David Auerbach, the director of the neonatal intensive care unit at the Arnold Palmer Hospital for Children. "They've had an incredible impact. There are times when they are the difference between life and death." You see, it was always my intention to help the many sick people who need me, not the few sickos who exploit me. It was never my desire to help Barry Bonds grow muscles. It was always my mission to shrink tumors in cancer patients. That's right, I have become one of the major medical combatants in the fight against cancer. I help patients overcome the nauseous effects of chemotherapy. I simultaneously help build up their strength while tearing down the disease. And sometimes, when all is lost, I am prescribed in the advanced stages of terminal cancer to help victims cope -- to increase their appetite, to make them feel better. "There are some steroids that will literally destroy cancer," says Dr. Clarence Brown, the president of the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center here in town. "There are many patients who are alive and well because of steroids. I don't think any doctor would argue that steroids have saved a lot of lives -- many more lives than they have cost." Actually, I'm not so sure that I've been directly responsible for taking a single life. Everybody always brings up the name Lyle Alzado -- the former Oakland Raider steroid abuser who died in 1992. Has anybody bothered to check out Alzado's cause of death? Everybody just assumes it was me. But doctors say he died of complications from brain cancer, and there is absolutely no medical evidence that I cause brain cancer. Much has been made by self-indulgent politicians about how I'm becoming an epidemic among America's teenagers. This was the contrived reason they gave for holding a congressional hearing last week on baseball players who use me. Really, it was just so these politicians could see themselves on SportsCenter. The fact is that less than 1 percent of college and high school students have ever taken me recreationally. Compare that with the nearly 25 percent who have smoked cigarettes, 30 percent who have used marijuana and 80 percent who have consumed alcohol. Considering the number of teenagers who die every year as the result of drunk driving, I suggest our federal government forget about me and hold a congressional hearing on the hard liquor ads NASCAR allows on the sides of its racecars. And considering the number of teenagers who pollute their lungs with nicotine, maybe we should hold a congressional hearing on why the PGA Tour still allows its "athletes" to smoke cigarettes during competition. Unlike these other drugs, I save people and benefit society. I help breathe life into new babies and comfort old people who are taking their last breaths. Everywhere you look, there is somebody I've cured or strengthened. In fact, the writer of this column has a daughter who, while still in the womb, was given steroids to help her survive. Jessica is now a healthy, beautiful and intelligent 5-year-old who some believe will become the first woman president of the United States. And the editor of this column was seriously ill five years ago and was given steroids to successfully reduce swelling in his liver due to a chronic condition. He continues to be a loud, obnoxious Bostonian who has lived long enough to finally see his Red Sox win a World Series. I am a steroid, and I am a good drug. So just leave me alone and let me do my job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nandralone doesn't save babies. I don't understand why you associate the two. Coedine is a good painkiller too, but nobody rationalizes the abuse of Cocaine by exalting Coedine's virtues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 Compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges. As it's been stated and proven for that matter, if taken properly steroids are entirely healthful. If a few idiots take steroids improperly at a young age and suffer from it, steroids again are doing a good thing by weeding out the ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Honestly, what the hell is the point of starting this thread? We've all had our say on this topic mostly because of you defending them. The only reason for you to start this thread is to try and create an argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 Even if the majority were off base, I didn't ask for anyones opinion or thoughts here. It's an informative article, and one that should be read by the masses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Apr 6, 2006 -> 11:42 PM) ...I didn't ask for anyones opinion or thoughts here. You just posted it on a message board. Makes perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Apr 6, 2006 -> 10:29 PM) Honestly, what the hell is the point of starting this thread? We've all had our say on this topic mostly because of you defending them. The only reason for you to start this thread is to try and create an argument. You've gotta have something to do between reading muscle mags and watching your balls shrink up to the size of an infants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 It would of been better article if It didnt mention Bonds... seemed like just a dumb cheap shot at him. Even though I do believe he did roids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 6, 2006 -> 10:13 PM) You just posted it on a message board. Makes perfect sense. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> On many message boards, posts are made, and then the post is closed and stickied. Treat it like one of those, if thats what you want to do. I just thought it was worth the read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Apr 6, 2006 -> 10:15 PM) You've gotta have something to do between reading muscle mags and watching your balls shrink up to the size of an infants. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't take steroids, but if I ever want to compete and my knowledge on the topic is where it should be, it might be something i'd experiment with. I also don't read muscle magazines whatsoever. Selling magazines is a tough thing when the majority of this world is unmotivated and dumb. Almost all the things in the magazines are false, and just in there to sell things and convince the fat lards of the world that they can have a boflex body by working out for 15 minutes, three times per week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Apr 6, 2006 -> 10:20 PM) It would of been better article if It didnt mention Bonds... seemed like just a dumb cheap shot at him. Even though I do believe he did roids. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought the same thing, although it's entirely necessary in my opinion, because Bonds is the poster boy for this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 04:36 AM) I don't take steroids, but if I ever want to compete and my knowledge on the topic is where it should be, it might be something i'd experiment with. I also don't read muscle magazines whatsoever. Selling magazines is a tough thing when the majority of this world is unmotivated and dumb. Almost all the things in the magazines are false, and just in there to sell things and convince the fat lards of the world that they can have a boflex body by working out for 15 minutes, three times per week. You mean Chuck Norris is a liar?!?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 12:30 AM) On many message boards, posts are made, and then the post is closed and stickied. Treat it like one of those, if thats what you want to do. I just thought it was worth the read. Not this one, and you knew that. So don't b**** when comments are made. It's worthless. The point of the article is that certain steroids do have a legitimate medical purpose. Anyone who doesn't know this probably isn't intelligent enough to use a mouse, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 6, 2006 -> 10:45 PM) Not this one, and you knew that. So don't b**** when comments are made. It's worthless. The point of the article is that certain steroids do have a legitimate medical purpose. Anyone who doesn't know this probably isn't intelligent enough to use a mouse, anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It doesn't matter if soxtalk isn't like that. The article is worth reading, period. The point of the article is that steroids offer no bad when taken properly, especially when under doctored supervision. The High Schoolers who take them are taking them at an age they shouldn't be. I have no sympathy for these clowns and to a lesser extent these parents who for the childs wrongdoing is trying to obliterate a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Apr 6, 2006 -> 10:44 PM) You mean Chuck Norris is a liar?!?!?!?! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're mistaking the Bowflex for the Total Gym. The Total Gym, what Chuck Norris sponsors is legit, the Bowflex is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 12:58 AM) It doesn't matter if soxtalk isn't like that. The article is worth reading, period. The point of the article is that steroids offer no bad when taken properly, especially when under doctored supervision. The High Schoolers who take them are taking them at an age they shouldn't be. I have no sympathy for these clowns and to a lesser extent these parents who for the childs wrongdoing is trying to obliterate a good thing. Some of my relatives would love to see steroids out of baseball, whose parents' lives were extended by steroids. They aren't trying to "obliterate" steroids in general. I don't know of anyone besides Christian Scientists who is trying to do that. The fact is, no reputable doctor (one who wants to keep his license) would "supervise" an athlete in a steroid regimen. There's a reason for that -- any steroid use is "abuse" for healthy adults. You limit it to high schoolers, but the article does no such thing. "Why has my honorable name been soiled just because a few dishonorable athletes have abused me?" The point of the article is that steroids aren't bad in general. Any moron knows this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 Well my point is still apparent then, it's a fine article and an excellent read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I have defended you before, but this time you deserve calling out R&W. When you post something that you know is going to piss off 99% of people and elicit deep reactions based on prior conversations, you pretty much deserve whatever you get here. To be honest your actions here are very much equivilent of the people who you complained about turning completely unrelated arguements into Red Sox arguements. By going back and finding something you knew was inflamatory to bring up out of no where, you are now employing the same techniques as the people who get under your skin, congratulations. I am sure it won't take long at all for this to deteriorate and turn into another pissing contest for one of us here to clean up or close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 This article is just out of whack. The guy is coming from a couple different angles that dont tie in. So a type of steroid saves premature babies, thats fantastic. Is that steroid the particular steroid that Bonds abuses? Is that steroid a common "juicer" steroid? Does it apply to the argument that Bonds is a steroid abuser? This isnt an "compare apples to apples" argument here. Because some of these apples are green, sour apples that arent typically good for pies and then there are the golden delicious apples that are common for apple pies. There are differences in these apples, but this author wants to group them all together. Now, if the author had presented his argument with perfectly good uses for the cream and the clear in the context of saving lives, then his argument would have much more merit. As it stands though, its a reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 07:08 AM) I have defended you before, but this time you deserve calling out R&W. When you post something that you know is going to piss off 99% of people and elicit deep reactions based on prior conversations, you pretty much deserve whatever you get here. To be honest your actions here are very much equivilent of the people who you complained about turning completely unrelated arguements into Red Sox arguements. By going back and finding something you knew was inflamatory to bring up out of no where, you are now employing the same techniques as the people who get under your skin, congratulations. I am sure it won't take long at all for this to deteriorate and turn into another pissing contest for one of us here to clean up or close. Why the wait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I'm currently juicing, go steroids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 06:08 AM) I have defended you before, but this time you deserve calling out R&W. When you post something that you know is going to piss off 99% of people and elicit deep reactions based on prior conversations, you pretty much deserve whatever you get here. To be honest your actions here are very much equivilent of the people who you complained about turning completely unrelated arguements into Red Sox arguements. By going back and finding something you knew was inflamatory to bring up out of no where, you are now employing the same techniques as the people who get under your skin, congratulations. I am sure it won't take long at all for this to deteriorate and turn into another pissing contest for one of us here to clean up or close. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My intention all along was to show an article I thought was worth reading, regardless of your opinion on the topic. A bodybuilding friend of mine thought it was something worth reading and sent me it, and I forwarded it onto here. I think, whatever stance you have, it's a good article to read. Perhaps I'm wrong, and for that I apologize. It's hard to fathom why this article would piss of 99% of the people from prior conversations, but if thats whats its going to be, then by all means close it, delete it, or whatever you feel necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 The main intention of this whole message board is baseball. What's one of the most frowned upon things in the game of baseball in recent years? Steroids. They've tainted the game we all love. If you post this on any other baseball forum on the net, I guarantee you get the same reaction. Baseball fans have little reason to be enamored with steroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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