whitesoxfan101 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 These players, keep in mind, are basically the exact same age (born 10 days apart in the same year). Also, both are listed as left fielders: Player A: .279/.374/.380 SLG 89 SB, 25 CS (78%) 303 G 1044 AB Player B: .276/.342/.381 SLG 172 SB 46 CS (79%) 461 G 1753 AB Player A is Ryan Freel and Player B is Scott Podsednik. The only noticeable differences are Pods has had more PT and is a lefty and Freel walks a lot more, is a much better defender, and plays a lot more positions As much as I love Pods....he's a lot like Freel, a really fast utility player. Pods will improve and get his hits as long as he stays healthy, but I think we need to put in perspective just how good Pods actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 10, 2006 -> 06:04 PM) These players, keep in mind, are basically the exact same age (born 10 days apart in the same year). Also, both are listed as left fielders: Player A: .279/.374/.380 SLG 89 SB, 25 CS (78%) 303 G 1044 AB Player B: .276/.342/.381 SLG 172 SB 46 CS (79%) 461 G 1753 AB Player A is Ryan Freel and Player B is Scott Podsednik. The only noticeable differences are Pods has had more PT and is a lefty and Freel walks a lot more, is a much better defender, and plays a lot more positions As much as I love Pods....he's a lot like Freel, a really fast utility player. Pods will improve and get his hits as long as he stays healthy, but I think we need to put in perspective just how good Pods actually is. Or get Ryan Freel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rventura23 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 SEASON G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 2005 103 369 69 100 19 4 21 51 59 36 10 .271 .371 .371 .742 2005 129 507 80 147 28 0 25 47 75 59 23 .290 .351 .349 .700 Last season stats When scottys healthy hes an impact player at the top of the line up, he steals tons of bases and is a solid average hitter. When hes not healthy he is greatly hindered, but Scotty was one of the best leadoff hitters in baseball for most of last season and Scotty>Freel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Give Pods a few more weeks to figure it out before you dismiss him as a utility player. Any guy who hits a walk off World Series winner deserves more than a week into the season before people are calling him out like he's been called out around here. Some people really are a tough crowd around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 10, 2006 -> 04:04 PM) These players, keep in mind, are basically the exact same age (born 10 days apart in the same year). Also, both are listed as left fielders: Player A: .279/.374/.380 SLG 89 SB, 25 CS (78%) 303 G 1044 AB Player B: .276/.342/.381 SLG 172 SB 46 CS (79%) 461 G 1753 AB Player A is Ryan Freel and Player B is Scott Podsednik. The only noticeable differences are Pods has had more PT and is a lefty and Freel walks a lot more, is a much better defender, and plays a lot more positions As much as I love Pods....he's a lot like Freel, a really fast utility player. Pods will improve and get his hits as long as he stays healthy, but I think we need to put in perspective just how good Pods actually is. How about we put into perspective how important scott is to this team by posting the teams record without him last season? Stats aren't everything but Pods certainly meant a s***load to this team last year and will again this year when he gets on track. Edited April 11, 2006 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 (edited) The Reds also aren't exactly the greatest team to use as a comparison for a player's role. This is a team that keeps putting Dunn in the outfield despite his obvious defensive deficiencies. Freel should really be playing more often than he is. Edited April 11, 2006 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I'm not worried about Pods since the offense is doing the job without him. Imagine how it's going to click if he returns to form! Now the bullpen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 01:03 AM) Give Pods a few more weeks to figure it out before you dismiss him as a utility player. Any guy who hits a walk off World Series winner deserves more than a week into the season before people are calling him out like he's been called out around here. Some people really are a tough crowd around here. Yea, I did take a few shots at him the past week.... it was more out of frustration then anything....but in the first few games he was lolligaggin in left, playing like a ST game. But it seems in the last few he stepped it up a little more and got less Damon esqu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Apr 10, 2006 -> 08:03 PM) Give Pods a few more weeks to figure it out before you dismiss him as a utility player. Any guy who hits a walk off World Series winner deserves more than a week into the season before people are calling him out like he's been called out around here. Some people really are a tough crowd around here. No kidding. The guy barely had a spring training. Yes, he's playing like s***. But it'll have to take a lot more than a week of suckage to make me turn on an everyday player. Its frustrating right now, but more than likely, you're gonna see other players have stretches like this. Its a long season. It happens. I recall how people were printing Jermaine Dye's ticket out of town after he sucked ass for at least a month at the beginning of last year. And we all know how his season turned out. Could Pods's poor start be a sign of things to come? Sure. But lets play it out before we start lining up his replacements. One week does not make the ballplayer. This can be said for players playing well right now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Apr 10, 2006 -> 07:03 PM) Give Pods a few more weeks to figure it out before you dismiss him as a utility player. Any guy who hits a walk off World Series winner deserves more than a week into the season before people are calling him out like he's been called out around here. Some people really are a tough crowd around here. No s*** man you said it perfect. Tough crowd. While he is sucking it up, he helps us big time when he's healthy. Hopefully he gets out his funk and gets on base for us soon cause we really need him. I am just gonna say it straight out. Some people are dicks. We start off on a little slide and theres no hearing the end of it. People need to learn how to calm down during slumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Pods sucks when not 100% healthy. He should have been on the DL to start the season. Furthermore, Gload should be taking his spot in LF. Furthermore, I'd rather have Borchard out there than anyone currently on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 If we had Freel instead of Podsednik, there is no way we'd be champs right not. How's that for a comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 12:26 AM) If we had Freel instead of Podsednik, there is no way we'd be champs right not. How's that for a comparison? I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxdavid Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(aboz56 @ Apr 10, 2006 -> 07:03 PM) Give Pods a few more weeks to figure it out before you dismiss him as a utility player. Any guy who hits a walk off World Series winner deserves more than a week into the season before people are calling him out like he's been called out around here. Some people really are a tough crowd around here. What about Geoff Blum? J/K His homer wasn't a walk off. I agree with most of you give him time, after all it is baseball every thing falls into place with time, .300 batters will be there, pitchers that usually hve low ERAs will have them low, and the White Sox will be in first again just give it time. Edited April 11, 2006 by chisoxdavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 14, 2006 Author Share Posted April 14, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 01:26 AM) If we had Freel instead of Podsednik, there is no way we'd be champs right not. How's that for a comparison? It works, even though it's wrong. Name me 1 thing Pods can do that Freel can't? It doesn't exist, although Freel can play 6 different positions better than Pods can play 1, draws more walks, and steals at just as high a percentage as Pods. The Pods love here is pretty fun, he did a great job as the leadoff man for us last year, but he's a really fast guy (when healthy anyways) who creates havoc when he gets on base. That's all. Edited April 14, 2006 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 11:09 PM) It works, even though it's wrong. Name me 1 thing Pods can do that Freel can't? It doesn't exist, although Freel can play 6 different positions better than Pods can play 1, draws more walks, and steals at just as high a percentage as Pods. The Pods love here is pretty fun, he did a great job as the leadoff man for us last year, but he's a really fast guy (when healthy anyways) who creates havoc when he gets on base. That's all. Pods love?? He has become one of the more hated guys on this site. The funny thing is how hated he has become among most people on here. Edited April 14, 2006 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 12:12 AM) Pods love?? He has become one of the more hated guys on this site. The funny thing is how hated he has become among most people on here. Well at least i have never changed my opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 11:38 PM) Well at least i have never changed my opinion... Ha, I'd knew you'd chime in. I have no problem with people like you who have never liked him(though I obviously disagree) but all the sudden it seems like everyone here hates the guy. Whatever though, each to his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 01:26 AM) If we had Freel instead of Podsednik, there is no way we'd be champs right not. How's that for a comparison? Would like to hear a reasoning why...? Freel has out produced podsednik in the last two years. Freel is a better fielder... he can of course play several positions... he is extremely fast (yayaya)... he has made a smoother transition from the minors also. Freel has a much better eye than podsednik... and most importantly he has never had a fluke/aberration season in the majors like podsednik has... which in turn makes people think podsednik is better than he is in all reality. I am sure people will say freel cannot play a full season and out produce podsednik, well in 2004 he had 505 at-bats he had a .375 obp which is only .004 less than podsednik's career high of .379. Podsednik also had to hit .037 points higher to accomplish that obp. Fact is this team would would be better with freel than podsednik. Also, i have come to accept the fact (actually did before we got him) that podsednik is just a mediocore player (being generous). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Does Pods look a bit lost at the plate sometimes? Yes But I think he needs a few weeks before we start bagging on his hitting. He missed time in ST, and when you are in that leadoff spot, trying to set the table for the offense, your woes are ALWAYS magnified even more. I think Pods will be fine, its nice to see Gooch completely break out of his ST woes right away though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 12:57 AM) Would like to hear a reasoning why...? Freel has out produced podsednik in the last two years. Freel is a better fielder... he can of course play several positions... he is extremely fast (yayaya)... he has made a smoother transition from the minors also. Freel has a much better eye than podsednik... and most importantly he has never had a fluke/aberration season in the majors like podsednik has... which in turn makes people think podsednik is better than he is in all reality. I am sure people will say freel cannot play a full season and out produce podsednik, well in 2004 he had 505 at-bats he had a .375 obp which is only .004 less than podsednik's career high of .379. Podsednik also had to hit .037 points higher to accomplish that obp. Fact is this team would would be better with freel than podsednik. Also, i have come to accept the fact (actually did before we got him) that podsednik is just a mediocore player (being generous). Freel has serious baggage though, he's probably a better player than Podsednik but he couldn't make it through a year here without picking up a few DUI's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 09:45 AM) Freel has serious baggage though, he's probably a better player than Podsednik but he couldn't make it through a year here without picking up a few DUI's. hmm, I heard that Freels problems were more coke-related than alcohol related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 09:47 AM) hmm, I heard that Freels problems were more coke-related than alcohol related. Well, most recently he was charged with Disorderly Intoxication in January which was later dropped because he performed a couple hours of community service. This was related to alcohol consumption but hey he could very well enjoy the powder as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 09:52 AM) Well, most recently he was charged with Disorderly Intoxication in January which was later dropped because he performed a couple hours of community service. This was related to alcohol consumption but hey he could very well enjoy the powder as well. Back when this website was known as "Griffey-talk", there was a reds fan who was hanging around giving us updates from their end. I dont remember his name, but he alluded to Freel having some off the field problems, and I PMed him about it and he replied "Freel likes the nose candy. He has been busted a few times.". Thats all I really know, so TIFWIW, which isnt too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 02:47 PM) hmm, I heard that Freels problems were more coke-related than alcohol related. I second this statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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