Gregory Pratt Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 My friend Christopher and I were talking the other day, after Pedro Martinez had a player (Guillen?) charge the mound at him pointing a bat, and I said, "Man, could you imagine having Barry Bonds or Jim Thome swing a bat at you?" "Yeah," he said. "You'd get killed by Thome and decapatated by Bonds." I asked him if he's ever seen someone bean Bonds, since he's an NL-loving Cub, and he said no. "Good move by the pitchers, considering that they might be victim to his Roid Rage if they did." I don't think Thome's enough of a hothead to ever charge the mound. I'm pretty sure Bonds is. Does anyone know if Bonds/Thome have been beaned in recent years/did either of them charge the mound as a result? And if the answer is no, which I'm pretty sure it is in both cases, at what odds do you put it that Bonds or Thome might charge the mound if beaned? I'd put the odds at zero percent for Thome. I'm not sure about Bonds. I know he must be pissed by the way the NL is pitching to him so far this year, and he's got a lot on his mind, plus he seems inclined toward violence by things such as the alleged (and I believe true) abuse of his ex-girlfriend. I'd put him at fifty percent. A part of me wishes Bonds would charge the mound at someone. Or that a pitcher might take that risk and bean him. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Here's what we need to see sometime before we die: Kyle Farnsworth plunks Bonds, Bonds charges. Actually, given all the armor Bonds wears at the plate, Jenks could probably pelt him and it woulnd't even give him a bruise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 BTW, I'm 99 pct certain that Thome charged the mound against Rheal Cormier a while back. The funny thing is that Thome and Cormier are real close friends. Thome said he charged the mound for the sake of the team. To show how classy of a guy he is, Thome and Cormier hung out after the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 10, 2006 -> 09:33 PM) BTW, I'm 99 pct certain that Thome charged the mound against Rheal Cormier a while back. The funny thing is that Thome and Cormier are real close friends. Thome said he charged the mound for the sake of the team. To show how classy of a guy he is, Thome and Cormier hung out after the game. Yeah, I just found a nifty interview with Thome: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_..._62/ai_99237356 ------------ Does anyone know of anytime Bonds charged, post-1998? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Q. You are driving a Hummer. Why the Hummer? A. It's a manly car. It's green and I can take it in the woods and, you know, run over trees. I love Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 That is a pretty funny article. Q. What were you thinking on your way out to tangle with Cormier? A. Get him in a headlock, get him on the ground and just lay on him. I wasn't thinking about punching him. I just wanted to lay on him and tell him, "Stay here, don't move and nobody gets hurt." He did what he had to do, and I did what I had to do. Indians strength guru Fernando Montes proclaims you "three-gorilla strong." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Bonds got beaned i think first game of hte season, or second or something. He didnt move lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 Q. Do you have a mean streak? A. When I step in the box. You wouldn't like me when I step in the box. It's you against the pitcher, and you've got this burning desire to do well. It's like you're in a tunnel, closed off from everybody else. Q. Has your mind ever wandered in the box? A. Not once. I've given away at-bats--we all have--but it's not because my concentration was lacking. Q. If you were told you could get away with using a corked bat to hit a game-winning homer in the World Series, would you do it? A. No. I want the ring badly, but I wouldn't cheat to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 05:10 AM) That is a pretty funny article. LMAO!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 FWIW, Ventura charged the mound after Nolan Ryan plunked him and I wouldn't consider Robin a "hothead" at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 QUOTE(WCSox @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 12:01 PM) FWIW, Ventura charged the mound after Nolan Ryan plunked him and I wouldn't consider Robin a "hothead" at all. I didn't say that every person who charges the mound is a hothead. I don't consider Ventura a hothead at all either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Thome got plunked the other day and gave whoever was on the mound 'the look'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuck the Cubs Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Does anyone know of anytime Bonds charged, post-1998? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah. In 2003, he tried to charge the mound against Mark Prior. He was restrained, but I don't think he was charging all-out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 01:12 PM) Thome got plunked the other day and gave whoever was on the mound 'the look'. Hahaha! QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 02:04 PM) Yeah. In 2003, he tried to charge the mound against Mark Prior. He was restrained, but I don't think he was charging all-out. I...don't know who I'd root for in that situation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuck the Cubs Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 He didn't go all-out. He took a few steps, gave an angry look, and pointed the bat at Prior, but the Cubs catcher and the umpire got in front of Bonds and restrained him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuck the Cubs Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 My favorite arguement with an umpire was when LaTroy Hawkins went after an umpire who he said had a grudge against him and was squeezing him in a game vs. the Cardinals, when he blew a lead. It was funny b/c after the ump ejected him, he needed 5 coaches to restrain him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 02:10 PM) He didn't go all-out. He took a few steps, gave an angry look, and pointed the bat at Prior, but the Cubs catcher and the umpire got in front of Bonds and restrained him By any chance, d'you recall where Prior plunked him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 08:14 PM) By any chance, d'you recall where Prior plunked him? I think it was due to the Cubs throwing him well inside during the entire series vs the Giants. I think there was also some bad blood because Bonds thought Dusty had told his pitchers to go after him "inside". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I would love to see someone like Guillen, whom Pedro has plunked several times, turn to the catcher in his first at bat and say something like "You go tell Pedro right now that if I get hit at all, I turn around and hit you up side your knees with this bat. No charging the mound, i take it out on you, before the rest of the team can come out and get between us." You think the catcher would be calling all outside stuff for him to throw the rest of the game? Hitting batters is almost a part of the game. When batters wear armor and hang their elbows over the plate, I would be aiming for that every time. but some pitchers get so arrogant, like Pedro, that is is over the top. I would almost give even money that Padro gets plunked himself in the next game with the nats, fines and suspensions be damned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuck the Cubs Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 By any chance, d'you recall where Prior plunked him? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think it was his elbow guard, not sure though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 12, 2006 Author Share Posted April 12, 2006 QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Apr 12, 2006 -> 07:10 AM) I would love to see someone like Guillen, whom Pedro has plunked several times, turn to the catcher in his first at bat and say something like "You go tell Pedro right now that if I get hit at all, I turn around and hit you up side your knees with this bat. No charging the mound, i take it out on you, before the rest of the team can come out and get between us." You think the catcher would be calling all outside stuff for him to throw the rest of the game? Hitting batters is almost a part of the game. When batters wear armor and hang their elbows over the plate, I would be aiming for that every time. but some pitchers get so arrogant, like Pedro, that is is over the top. I would almost give even money that Padro gets plunked himself in the next game with the nats, fines and suspensions be damned. If I were catching, I'd take that risk and say, "I'll take the risk that you whack me because I don't think you're willing to risk the massive suspension for assaulting someone with a bat." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mplssoxfan Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Apr 12, 2006 -> 07:10 AM) I would love to see someone like Guillen, whom Pedro has plunked several times, turn to the catcher in his first at bat and say something like "You go tell Pedro right now that if I get hit at all, I turn around and hit you up side your knees with this bat. No charging the mound, i take it out on you, before the rest of the team can come out and get between us." You think the catcher would be calling all outside stuff for him to throw the rest of the game? Hitting batters is almost a part of the game. When batters wear armor and hang their elbows over the plate, I would be aiming for that every time. but some pitchers get so arrogant, like Pedro, that is is over the top. I would almost give even money that Padro gets plunked himself in the next game with the nats, fines and suspensions be damned. A good story... Sawks-Yanks, way back in the day. Yanks knock down a couple of guys and up strolls Jimmy Piersall. Piersall tells Yogi, "You bastards knock me down, I hit you in the head with this bat. And I'm the guy who can plead temoprary insanity and get away with it." Yogi thinks about it for a while and replies, "You know, Jim, I don't think we've hit a .220 hitter all year." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Apr 12, 2006 -> 08:10 AM) I would love to see someone like Guillen, whom Pedro has plunked several times, turn to the catcher in his first at bat and say something like "You go tell Pedro right now that if I get hit at all, I turn around and hit you up side your knees with this bat. No charging the mound, i take it out on you, before the rest of the team can come out and get between us." You think the catcher would be calling all outside stuff for him to throw the rest of the game? Hitting batters is almost a part of the game. When batters wear armor and hang their elbows over the plate, I would be aiming for that every time. but some pitchers get so arrogant, like Pedro, that is is over the top. I would almost give even money that Padro gets plunked himself in the next game with the nats, fines and suspensions be damned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmFyW0g-wRM...baseball%20kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandy125 Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 QUOTE(3E8 @ Apr 12, 2006 -> 07:13 PM) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmFyW0g-wRM...baseball%20kick That is pretty funny. I've never seen anyone kick the catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddling Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Apr 12, 2006 -> 04:03 PM) If I were catching, I'd take that risk and say, "I'll take the risk that you whack me because I don't think you're willing to risk the massive suspension for assaulting someone with a bat." Sure, sitting in front of your computer, with nothing on the line, you could say that. But if you were actually behind the plate, in the heat of the game, and beanballs had been flying all day, and some pissed as hell batter who has already been hit comes to bat and says that, you would probably think twice. One good hit ends your carreer, and one fast bankrupcy ends any money you might get as a result of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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