Podsednik hurt?

[ptatc]

I've said this before and people have blown it off, but with the bilateral surgeries and subsequent "scar tissue" problem , I don't think he is healthy. It seems to me that he really isn't striding and using his leg well .Since he hits lefty and the left groin was the sports hernia and scar tissue tear area, I believe he is not using his legs enough in his swing and thus all of the weak hits. Now, whether this is physical pain or mental apprehension I don't know but it definitely effecting his swing.

[heirdog]

If our record with Pods in the lineup last year and his playoff performance and subsequent world series title are not enough to prove that we won the pods-caballo trade....

 

then just wait until el caballo leaves via free agency next year and signs some big deal somewhere else. The only way Milwaukee could possibly win that trade is to win the WS with Caballo this year or trade him before the deadline and get some super stud that leads them to multiple titles in the near future.

 

Also, think of the fact that Viz ate some good innings for us last year (ERA kept coming down after a dismal April...actually that first extra inning game against cleveland when Ozzie left Viz in for 3 or 4 innings because he didn't have anyone left and we lost by 5 runs) and if he wasn't in the vasquez trade then some other more valuable piece like Politte might have been included.

[Rowand44]

I guarantee you we would not have gone all the way last year without Pods, anyway, shape, or form.

Bingo, the end.

[CWSGuy406]

I'm not sure I agree with all of this. He wasn't 100% in Sept and Oct, healthier than August I'd say, but nowhere near 100%, and he was pretty awesome in September and October.

 

I think Fathom was referring more to Podsednik's second half, where he was pretty bad, by putting up a .284/.326/.356 line, and 14 caught stealings compared to only 15 stolen bases.

Edited April 14, 2006 by CWSGuy406

[ShoeLessRob]

I think Fathom was referring more to Podsednik's second half, where he was pretty bad, by putting up a .284/.326/.356 line, and 14 caught stealings compared to only 15 stolen bases.

 

Sheesh didn't know his stolen base ratio was so bad for the second half ...

[qwerty]

Sheesh didn't know his stolen base ratio was so bad for the second half ...

 

Everyone in the world seems to forget the 10-12 times he got picked off too. Two games he got picked off twice... once by chen... and the other i literally just forgot, was right handed.

[WhiteSoxfan1986]

A little duckstourt (sp?).

 

Read Jose Canseco's book

[jphat007]

I think Fathom was referring more to Podsednik's second half, where he was pretty bad, by putting up a .284/.326/.356 line, and 14 caught stealings compared to only 15 stolen bases.

 

Yah, but much of that was in late July/August when he was really hurt. A lot of guys are terrible when they are really hurting as much as he was, which is why he went on the DL.

 

But in September and October he wasn't healthy and still not nearly 100%, but not hurt as bad as late July and August. He put up pretty damn good numbers in September and October and he wasn't near 100%, which goes against being "a pretty terrible player when less than 100%."

 

Now if he's just talking about his base stealing I'll totally agree. He obviously is not a premier basestealer when he is not 100%, which makes lots of sense.

[AWhiteSoxinNJ]

I'm surprised they didn't let him steal today with Guch and then with Thome up. I wonder if they didn't let him because he's hurt? Usually when he gets on base he usually goes within a pick or two.

[Texsox]

The pitching was pretty key. There were a whole lot of pieces of the puzzle. The team was reshaped quite a bit even without that trade. They still hit 200 home runs so it wasn't like there was this absence of power. The team used power as much as any team in baseball.

 

Looking at players, right now, I'd rather have Lee back in the lineup.

 

Then by your logic, since we won a WS with Rowand in the lineup, we lost the trade for Thome unless we win a WS. Because Rowand was crucial to the WS win. Losing Frank and Carl will be a disaster because we won a WS with them on the roster.

[CWSGuy406]

The pitching was pretty key. There were a whole lot of pieces of the puzzle. The team was reshaped quite a bit even without that trade. They still hit 200 home runs so it wasn't like there was this absence of power. The team used power as much as any team in baseball.

 

Looking at players, right now, I'd rather have Lee back in the lineup.

 

Then by your logic, since we won a WS with Rowand in the lineup, we lost the trade for Thome unless we win a WS. Because Rowand was crucial to the WS win. Losing Frank and Carl will be a disaster because we won a WS with them on the roster.

 

The thing is, Tex, if all things were equal (read: salaries), yes, I'd rather have Lee.

 

But half of the selling point in the Lee deal was that we lose $8 million dollars off of the payroll. That allowed us to sign, IIRC, Iguchi, Pierzynski, and El Duque. Do we win the AL Central with Willie Harris, Ben Davis, and Jason Grilli/B-Mac in place of the former three?

 

I dislike "Scotty" as much as anybody here, but I can see why the trade was made.

[WHarris1]

But half of the selling point in the Lee deal was that we lose $8 million dollars off of the payroll.  That allowed us to sign, IIRC, Iguchi, Pierzynski, and El Duque.  Do we win the AL Central with Willie Harris, Ben Davis, and Jason Grilli/B-Mac in place of the former three?

 

I dislike "Scotty" as much as anybody here, but I can see why the trade was made.

There. It. Is.

 

Dead on, agree 100%

[Steve9347]

Scotty will be fine... patience.

[watchtower41]

Scotty will be fine... patience.

 

 

 

Thank You.

 

 

How soon people forget that he hist a walk-off in the World Series, against one of the best closers in the game.

 

People also forget on how much welcomed him and loved him as we voted over and over again to put Pods in the All-Star game over the likes of Jeter, Matsui and Crawford??? He has one bad week to start the season and people "hate" him. LOl what a joke this board is at times, so quick to jump to negative conclusions like a true Wrigley rat. What are you gonna do BOOOO him like a Cubs fan tonight?? Me, I'll probably be cheering louder than anyone at the Cell, because I'm a Sox fan, I refuse to kick our players when they are down and treat them like Corey Patterson. Our fans have much more class than that.... If a Sox player goes into a slump, we support them. Our organization also has more class and is not going to lie to us about injuries and what a player's status is.

 

Pods deserves more than a little slack here... he will be fine. Cripes sake, he had the best average on the team last year. I know its an easy excuse, but as far as what he's been able to do so far this year, he'd still be in his 3rd week of spring training. Want to see worse than Pods start?? Go ahead and keep whining for Jerry Owens, he's just tearing it up in the minors

[fathom]

How soon people forget that he hist a walk-off in the World Series, against one of the best closers in the game.

 

 

How soon people forget the pansy-ass throw he had in the top of the 9th that allowed the Astros to tie the game!

 

In all seriousness, the bottom line is that we need more production from Pods. He just looks so uncomfortable on the field right now, it's very disturbing. It's too bad that we don't have any other leadoff/LF options.

[BlackBetsy]

I'd worry more about Pods if he was striking out. He's not; he's making contact, just not catching the right pieces of the ball. He should have had 3-4 more hits than he's had just do to the ball falling in the right place by luck - would people be so upset if he was hitting .176 (four more hits)?

 

Mind you, there are some other hitters who are struggling mightily, too. Dan Johnson is 0-for-the-season. Mike Sweeney is 2 for 21 so far (one of the two, of course, beat the Sox). Rondell White is 3 for 34. Shawn Green is 3 for 27, Carl Everett is 4 for 32. These are all good hitters that are going to hit. Things just haven't fallen in for them yet.

[The Beast]

The thing is, Tex, if all things were equal (read:  salaries), yes, I'd rather have Lee.

 

But half of the selling point in the Lee deal was that we lose $8 million dollars off of the payroll.  That allowed us to sign, IIRC, Iguchi, Pierzynski, and El Duque.  Do we win the AL Central with Willie Harris, Ben Davis, and Jason Grilli/B-Mac in place of the former three?

 

I dislike "Scotty" as much as anybody here, but I can see why the trade was made.

So you dislike Scotty Podsednik, even though he's the best leadoff and only leadoff hitter we've had since Ray Durham?

 

Yeah, okay, I see your logic, and that trade needed to happen if you wanted to win at all. I couldn't stand Caballo, who was a fat slow turd who could be replaced by Konerko and Everett easily.

 

I don't understand your logic is all, no need for fights on why you dislike him...

[Steff]

Gotta love school holidays...

[aboz56]

Sad how people are bailing on Podsednik this quickly.

 

It really is.

 

Once he gets healthy or works back into playing shape, he'll be fine.

[Steff]

Sad how people are bailing on Podsednik this quickly.

 

It really is.

 

Once he gets healthy or works back into playing shape, he'll be fine.

 

 

Didn't ya hear...? "To the DL" is the phrase of the week..

[fathom]

Sad how people are bailing on Podsednik this quickly.

 

It really is.

 

Once he gets healthy or works back into playing shape, he'll be fine.

 

Here's a question to ponder: Will Pods ever get back to 100 pct? He wouldn't be the first premiere base stealer to having lingering leg injuries completely rob him of his ability to steal bases at a high rate.

[fathom]

I know this is probably the wrong thread for this, but with the rumors that Miguel Cabrera might be on the market this coming offseason, it will be interesting to see if Ozzie and company try to make a run at him. He'd be the perfect long-term fit for LF.

[aboz56]

The thing is, Tex, if all things were equal (read:  salaries), yes, I'd rather have Lee.

So you'd rather have a guy who is disruptive in the clubhouse, as was evident by his behavior towards Marte that came out after he was dealt away than a guy who is a great clubhouse guy and doesn't cause problems.

 

So you'd rather have a guy who is below average in left field and who dogs it most of the time than a guy who can make plays in left field and plays hard?

 

So you'd rather have a guy who won nothing for us than a guy who was the tablesetter for a World Championship?

 

Wow, makes perfect sense.

 

There is a reason Ozzie wanted Carlos Lee gone. He is an all about me player and not a team guy. He'll have fun never winning anything in Milwaukee and putting up all-star numbers. He was never about winning, he was about Carlos Lee. He can rot for all I care, I probably hate him more than any Sox player I've seen in my life.

[fathom]

  He can rot for all I care, I probably hate him more than any Sox player I've seen in my life.

 

JOSE PANIAGUA!

 

Also, David Wells and Kevin Walker have a special place in Sox history for suckiness.

[Steff]

I probably hate him more than any Sox player I've seen in my life.

 

 

David Wells.