Gregory Pratt Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...SPG0K5ATIC1.DTL Kent said he doesn't think the seven players to testify in the BALCO case -- Bonds, Gary Sheffield, Jason and Jeremy Giambi, Benito Santiago, Bobby Estalella and Armando Rios (A.J. Pierzynski was subpoenaed but didn't testify) -- will face punishment. It appears the only way the government would go after a player is if he perjured himself. Why was AJ subpoenaed? Did anyone suspect him of steroid use on a serious level, or was it because of the one season he was with the Giants? I thought that was odd as hell and left me a little surprised. Someone shed some light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 There's been long standing rumors that AJP was connected to BALCO. I'm not saying he did steroids, but many people knew that he was supposed to testify in the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRowand33 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 thats dissapointing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Apr 18, 2006 -> 06:46 PM) thats dissapointing It really, really is. I'm not saying he did it (which I doubt he did) but just to have your name speculated isn't good at all. Just at the wrong place at the wrong time (SF clubhouse) type thing. Edited April 18, 2006 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Apr 18, 2006 -> 05:41 PM) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...SPG0K5ATIC1.DTL Why was AJ subpoenaed? Did anyone suspect him of steroid use on a serious level, or was it because of the one season he was with the Giants? I thought that was odd as hell and left me a little surprised. Someone shed some light. Does it have anything to do with him being in the Giants clubhouse that year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Apr 18, 2006 -> 11:46 PM) thats dissapointing First, don't jump to conclusions. Second, don't be naive about which players did roids, and which didn't. EVERY team in baseball had players that were on the juice a few years ago. AJP wasn't on the Sox then, so I don't really care if he was on them or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRowand33 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 18, 2006 -> 06:52 PM) First, don't jump to conclusions. Second, don't be naive about which players did roids, and which didn't. EVERY team in baseball had players that were on the juice a few years ago. AJP wasn't on the Sox then, so I don't really care if he was on them or not. I'm not saying he did it, but its still disappointing to have a player on the team who was once possibly associated with balco however as a sox player he's great, and as long as he is clean now who cares I just don't like seeing any of our sox guys put in bad positions or anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I'm not saying he was on them... However, if we assume he was on them prior to last year and further assume he was not on them last year because other wise he would have been caught, then it's very interesting that his HR total was at its highest during the "clean" year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I think it's safe to say that two of the biggest reasons that AJP had his highest homer total were his change in approach at the plate (went from a gap hitter to more of a home run hitter) and that he was playing at a homer's park (compared to San Fran, which plays very deep). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 I am saying that I didn't even have a clue he'd been subpoenaed, and I didn't know there was any connection. I didn't jump to a sole conclusion, personally, and the fact that my post is a genuine inquiry and not any sort of conclusion or attack is clear. Given that he didn't testify, I'd like to know why, along with the summons. ::shrug:: If anyone knows, let us know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Apr 18, 2006 -> 08:09 PM) I am saying that I didn't even have a clue he'd been subpoenaed, and I didn't know there was any connection. I didn't jump to a sole conclusion, personally, and the fact that my post is a genuine inquiry and not any sort of conclusion or attack is clear. Given that he didn't testify, I'd like to know why, along with the summons. ::shrug:: If anyone knows, let us know. How'd you even come across this, being it's 2 years old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 I saw clips of Kent and Bonds fighting. I wanted to find out why. I did a Google search and browsed through a bunch of things. This came out -- and I was very surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 18, 2006 -> 06:04 PM) I think it's safe to say that two of the biggest reasons that AJP had his highest homer total were his change in approach at the plate (went from a gap hitter to more of a home run hitter) and that he was playing at a homer's park (compared to San Fran, which plays very deep). yeah not to mention, he was 28 last year which is ideal time for a hitter to start to develop most of his power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Dixie Normus Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 His stats have been consistent his entire career. If he was on the juice then, he still is. But I see no reason to suspect he ever was. It sounds like it was fishing to ask him to testify at all. He did the smart thing in not do it in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 What could have happened is he got supoenead because he had a lot of issues with the guys in that locker room. Who better to talk to than someone who wouldn't want to protect any of them? Of course with the other names on that list, I really don't know for sure. I do know that he looks the same today as he always has unlike many of the questionable players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinningUgly85 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) AJ doing steriods I cannot see hes not that big of a guy. I think it has to do with more being around Barry Bonds and the Giants. He's just put in the spot light because of the World Series. Edited April 19, 2006 by WinningUgly85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I'm much more concerned with his falling BA and OBP. I don't think this is really anything that says either way whether he did 'roids or didn't. Personally I think roid usage isn't the worst thing in the world, but it certainly takes away from the integrity of the game. If he did 'roids fine--it sure didn't help him hit many balls out during his time in SF--when he was batting over .300 but hitting very few homers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 He's just put in the spot lite because of the World Series. Hehe, you must have missed the part about this article being two years old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Dixie Normus Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Apr 18, 2006 -> 10:01 PM) I'm much more concerned with his falling BA and OBP. I don't think this is really anything that says either way whether he did 'roids or didn't. Personally I think roid usage isn't the worst thing in the world, but it certainly takes away from the integrity of the game. If he did 'roids fine--it sure didn't help him hit many balls out during his time in SF--when he was batting over .300 but hitting very few homers. Look at what is happening in this thread. We have several AJ fans speculating on if he did or if he didn't. It will be this that changes the status quo. When enough clean players see thier rep smudged because they played along side someone who did, the players will put the heat on the union and get it cleaned up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 A subpoena is simply a legal mandate to appear in court. It does not consitute a charge of any kind, nor any sort of guilt. Witnesses can be serviced a subpoena. There's nothing to worry about until there is something to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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