McLellan Resigns, Rove back to Politics

[Texsox]

ok, so why doesn't the "new media" consist of more "left-leaning" biased programs?  Why are they not as successful?

 

 

I am saying we are in danger when everyone just gets slanted news that will make them happy. Isn't that a government's dream? I don't careif it's slanted left, right, up, down, or sideways.

 

What it shows is conservatives want biased news more than liberals. But that will change soon, and liberals will also be able to receive biased news to make them happy. The division in this country will get deeper when both sides think they have the exclusive hold on truth, fairness, and how to run this country. They will believe it without question because that is all they hear, their side's postive moments and the other sides mistakes. If they should happen to hear the opposite, it will because of that media's bias.

[kapkomet]

I think the one thing that we have to be careful with the "new media" - the AM blowtorch talk shows are ENTERTAINMENT.

[YASNY]

I am saying we are in danger when everyone just gets slanted news that will make them happy. Isn't that a government's dream? I don't careif it's slanted left, right, up, down, or sideways.

 

What it shows is conservatives want biased news more than liberals. But that will change soon, and liberals will also be able to receive biased news to make them happy. The division in this country will get deeper when both sides think they have the exclusive hold on truth, fairness, and how to run this country. They will believe it without question because that is all they hear, their side's postive moments and the other sides mistakes. If they should happen to hear the opposite, it will because of that media's bias.

 

What it shows is that the conservatives finally are getting a voice after decades of liberally slanted news being the only option.

[Texsox]

What it shows is that the conservatives finally are getting a voice after decades of liberally slanted news being the only option.

 

Which proves my point. Conservatives think there should be a voice. Please tell me news that makes us look good and I'll be happy. When everyone gets that, we stop holding out leaders accountable and a larger rift developes.

 

The news should seem biased to everyone unless your politican views are exactly middle. Plus you can't write every story on a total nuetral tone. If the President screws up, he screws up. Deal with it, don't cry "it's the media". But that's what the Republican Party has their followers believeing. As soon as the Dems get that same feeling, and it's coming fast, because what works for one party will work for the other, then we have people just reading news that exactly matches their opinion, right or wrong.

 

The GOP has unleashed the greatest campaign strategy ever devised. They have insulated themselves from any criticism. The news is either favorable to the GOP or Liberally Biased!!!. Keep drinking the koolaid and we're screwed. The Soviet Union had TAAS and the GOP wants that same set up. No criticism of their government, only news that makes them sound great.

 

And talk about voice, talk radio is 24/7 Conservative. The mass media owners, the same people who own the news outlets, aren't programming any liberal talk. Why would they forms some secret society to slant the 15 minute newscast for their benefit, then turn over the remaining 23 hours + to Rush and his cronies?

[YASNY]

Conservatives think there should be a voice because only the liberals have had a voice for the whole of the age of television. Liberals think that their voice should be the only one heard and therefore despise the fact that conservatives are making significant headway into offering an alternative voice, and subsequently, an alternative way of thinking.

Edited April 23, 2006 by YASNY

[Texsox]

Conservatives think there should be a voice because only the liberals have had a voice for the whole of the age of television.  Liberals think that their voice should be the only one heard and therefore despise the fact that conservatives are making significant headway into offering an alternative voice, and subsequently, an alternative way of thinking.

 

When you say voice, are you meaning the news, that 30 minute show with news, weather, and sports. The front page of the newspaper, and the 5 minutes when they say "now the news" or do you mean the shows like Rush, Hannity, and all the others?

 

Now that conservatives only believe and trust stuff they agree with, the conserative politicans have their dream. Any screw up on their part is deflected by blaming the messenger. I just hope you wake up before it's too late. There is a reason that first thing somene does when taking over a country is to take over the broadcasting and news organizations, even before rounding up the weapons. A free press is the most dangerous weapon against wrongdoing by a government. Conservatives are handing over the keys without a fight. Demanding to only hear biased news that makes them feel smart. for America

[YASNY]

When you say voice, are you meaning the news, that 30 minute show with news, weather, and sports. The front page of the newspaper, and the 5 minutes when they say "now the news" or do you mean the shows like Rush, Hannity, and all the others?

 

Now that conservatives only believe and trust stuff they agree with, the conserative politicans have their dream. Any screw up on their part is deflected by blaming the messenger. I just hope you wake up before it's too late. There is a reason that first thing somene does when taking over a country is to take over the broadcasting and news organizations, even before rounding up the weapons. A free press is the most dangerous weapon against wrongdoing by a government. Conservatives are handing over the keys without a fight. Demanding to only hear biased news that makes them feel smart.  for America

 

Wake up? Bulls***! I picked up on the fact that the media had a liberal bias when I was in junior high school. The way things are now, we are FINALLY getting both sides of the issues and the stories. In general, the media is more balanced than it's ever been. The problem with that is the liberals yearn for the good old days of pure liberal bulls*** being rammed down our collective throats.

[Texsox]

Wake up?  Bulls***!  I picked up on the fact that the media had a liberal bias when I was in junior high school.  The way things are now, we are FINALLY getting both sides of the issues and the stories.  In general, the media is more balanced than it's ever been.  The problem with that is the liberals yearn for the good old days of pure liberal bulls*** being rammed down our collective throats.

 

Well once again you just can't discuss this without resorting to bulls*** and stuff. Keep demanding your biased, slanted news and keep believing that's best for America. :headshake

 

Thank God republican politicians figured out the media was biased, funny that the public never did. Greatest.capaign.strategy.ever. no criticism ever. keep living in your conservatives are perfect and liberal is bulls*** world.

[jasonxctf]

whoever used the comparison of either positive news for the GOP or it's liberal bias is 100% correct. That's unfortunately the way that these people have been brain washed into thinking. in their minds, any type of critiscm is just liberal bias.

 

it's sad.

[YASNY]

Well once again you just can't discuss this without resorting to bulls*** and stuff. Keep demanding your biased, slanted news and keep believing that's best for America.  :headshake

 

Thank God republican politicians figured out the media was biased, funny that the public never did. Greatest.capaign.strategy.ever. no criticism ever.  keep living in your conservatives are perfect and liberal is bulls*** world.

 

When I see bulls***, I call bulls***. :headshake

[southsider2k5]

When you say voice, are you meaning the news, that 30 minute show with news, weather, and sports. The front page of the newspaper, and the 5 minutes when they say "now the news" or do you mean the shows like Rush, Hannity, and all the others?

 

Now that conservatives only believe and trust stuff they agree with, the conserative politicans have their dream. Any screw up on their part is deflected by blaming the messenger. I just hope you wake up before it's too late. There is a reason that first thing somene does when taking over a country is to take over the broadcasting and news organizations, even before rounding up the weapons. A free press is the most dangerous weapon against wrongdoing by a government. Conservatives are handing over the keys without a fight. Demanding to only hear biased news that makes them feel smart.  for America

 

So what is the URL for your blog chronicling the lies of the evening news?

 

The irony is while the left is fixated on Fox News, you never hear them questioning the "MSM" do you? Do you see liberal blogs that talk about the truth in the evening news? Nope guess what, they accept what they want to hear as fact, and don't question it either. The difference is that once again, the focus isn't there, its only the latest thing that Fox News, or Rush Limbaugh said.

[FlaSoxxJim]

So what is the URL for your blog chronicling the lies of the evening news?

 

The irony is while the left is fixated on Fox News, you never hear them questioning the "MSM" do you?  Do you see liberal blogs that talk about the truth in the evening news?  Nope guess what, they accept what they want to hear as fact, and don't question it either.  The difference is that once again, the focus isn't there, its only the latest thing that Fox News, or Rush Limbaugh said.

 

That characterization is just flat out wrong. Lots of liveral blogs regularly give the MSM whatfor when they drop the ball in their coverage, either by not picking up on stories, not investigating issues in anything other but a superficial way, or by accepting the administrations enfeebled official versions of things instteade of challenging them on it.

 

In 5 minutes this morning on a couple of blogs (DKos, ThinkProgress, and C&L) I saw that there were three entries critical of the MSM and their parent outlets. One was critical the MSM in general for not taking up the charge in the wake of the 60 Minutes Tyler Drumheller bombswhell story, and never seriously asking why despite three separate interviews of Drumheller by the Robb-Silverman Commission it has never been reported that the administration was absolutely made aware of the lack of Iraqi WMDs by fall 2002, basically said they didn't care, and then continued to use cherrrypicked bad intel to sell the war to Congress and the public.

 

Another journal related Nickolas Kristof's complaint with the CBS Evening News last year for devoting all of two minutes all year long to the issue of genocide in Darfur, but spending 28 minutes on the stupid Michale jackson trial.

 

Finally, there was a journal critical of Viacom's decision not to air the Change to Win "Make Work Pay" campaign ads because it is an "issue ad." Yeah, this is more a gripe witth the parennt company than with the news content, but still an example of the blogosphere pointing out a shortcoming of a major mainstream media outlet.

 

Again, that is just 5 minutes of lookinng this morning after reading your post. But the liberal blogs are in no way giving the MSM a free ride for shoddy investiative reporting.

Edited April 24, 2006 by FlaSoxxJim

[Texsox]

So what is the URL for your blog chronicling the lies of the evening news?

 

The irony is while the left is fixated on Fox News, you never hear them questioning the "MSM" do you?  Do you see liberal blogs that talk about the truth in the evening news?  Nope guess what, they accept what they want to hear as fact, and don't question it either.  The difference is that once again, the focus isn't there, its only the latest thing that Fox News, or Rush Limbaugh said.

 

I'm not fixated on Fox, in fact I watch their morning show now. What I am fixated on is the campaign to eliminate a free press and turn it into propaganda machines for either party. When we have news outlets that are just mouthing one or the other party lines, we lose an important mechanism that keeps out country great. What I see is conservatives demanding news that caters to them, and makes the GOP look good. That is such a devestating technique, Dems will follow, and then we are screwed. No independent press, just a conservative and a liberal press, both at the extremes.

 

Currently every mistake by the GOP that is reported is blamed on a liberal media bias. The GOP can do no wrong.

 

Next, every Dem mistake will be blamed on a conservative media bias.

 

Then we won't be putting up with bad government, we'll be demanding it. :headshake

[Texsox]

When I see bulls***, I call bulls***.  :headshake

 

And now that has expanded to when you can't see the truth

[kapkomet]

I'm not fixated on Fox, in fact I watch their morning show now. What I am fixated on is the campaign to eliminate a free press and turn it into propaganda machines for either party. When we have news outlets that are just mouthing one or the other party lines, we lose an important mechanism that keeps out country great. What I see is conservatives demanding news that caters to them, and makes the GOP look good. That is such a devestating technique, Dems will follow, and then we are screwed. No independent press, just a conservative and a liberal press, both at the extremes.

 

Currently every mistake by the GOP that is reported is blamed on a liberal media bias. The GOP can do no wrong.

 

Next, every Dem mistake will be blamed on a conservative media bias.

 

Then we won't be putting up with bad government, we'll be demanding it.  :headshake

 

See I totally disagree - the "new media" has 'pushed' the GOP into some corners that they don't want to be in. The ports deal, Harriet Myers, immagration, spending in Congress, to name just a few - the 'new media' is ALL OVER these guys for their lack of "responsibility". On the other side, I rarely see the Democrats get questioned on the MSM. They play thier bits over and over again. John Kerry's ra-ra-ra speech this weekend is an example.

[Rex Kickass]

Then you aren't paying attention.

[kapkomet]

Then you aren't paying attention.

As a rule, the MSM doesn't want to hold anyone accountable for anything, to be honest. That would require WORK, something that the "press" doesn't know how to do anymore.

[Texsox]

As a rule, the MSM doesn't want to hold anyone accountable for anything, to be honest.  That would require WORK, something that the "press" doesn't know how to do anymore.

 

There seems to be an economic incentive to just repeat the party lines and watch their viewership, and incomes, rise. We are demanding stories that we like, all they have to do it take a press release and print / show / read it. Because that seems fair and balanced.

 

When we start doing that, we achieve fair and balanced by running a GOP ad next to a Dem ad. Then we are screwed but everyone is happy.

[Rex Kickass]

As a rule, the MSM doesn't want to hold anyone accountable for anything, to be honest.  That would require WORK, something that the "press" doesn't know how to do anymore.

 

I totally agree with that. As long as youre willing to admit that neither the Dems or the GOP is held accountable anymore, I'll agree.

[kapkomet]

In the large scheme, no, neither party is held accountable, depending on your viewpoint. I will say, though, that the "new media" gets their panties twisted a lot more then the MSM over issues that piss them off.

[Cknolls]

Then you aren't paying attention.

Examples?

[Cknolls]

So what is the URL for your blog chronicling the lies of the evening news?

 

The irony is while the left is fixated on Fox News, you never hear them questioning the "MSM" do you?  Do you see liberal blogs that talk about the truth in the evening news?  Nope guess what, they accept what they want to hear as fact, and don't question it either.  The difference is that once again, the focus isn't there, its only the latest thing that Fox News, or Rush Limbaugh said.

 

 

Can anyone cite a story in N.Y. Times or the Wash. Post about the illegal use of Michael Steele's SSN to run credit checks on him by the Dem Sen. Campaign Comm. haeded by none other than Chuck Schumer.

 

This is one example where the MSM's failure to report a story could be considered bias. Does anyone think that the Post and the Times would have been silent if the RSCC stole a black Dem candidates SSN and did credit checks on him?

[Cknolls]

Today's Post never mentions that McCarthy donated $7000 to Kerry and the Dem party. Think they just missed that detail by accident when they had 5 top-notch journalists working the one story. Hardly.

[Rex Kickass]

I didn't know BMac was a Democrat.

[KipWellsFan]

CNN: Tony Snow offered Press Job

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/CNN_says...press_0424.html