TheDudeAbides Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 16, 2006 -> 10:39 PM) Has anyone actually said this? Mabye not here, but i've heard it elsewhere. "Its too early", "He hasnt pitched enough", ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I think most people think we need to give him more time in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDudeAbides Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 16, 2006 -> 10:43 PM) I think most people think we need to give him more time in the minors. Put me in that group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox72 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Apr 22, 2006 -> 11:45 PM) I'm just wondering if we still even need three lefties. Thornton has barely pitched and I just wonder if we would be better off with another righty than Logan. SSH you are 100% right. We DO NOT need another lefty in the pen. As much as I was rooting for/praying for Logan to succeed, it just has not happened. Its time for the experiment to end. Send him down, let him build up his confidence against lesser competition and get back to him then. C'mon guys, he messed up two plays during his outing (one by not covering first, two by fielding a chopper any normal pitcher would have backed off of). I was all for him being here after ST, but he is proving that he cannot cut it right now. Figure something out, and let him go learn some more. For right now, he is a liability and a roster spot, thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 In hindsight...I think tonights outing has spelled an end to Logan. We will see Count back for Montero and than Nelson will be called up. In fact, if the Sox think he's ready, Nelson may be up even sooner than we think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Logan is cannon fodder he must go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 16, 2006 -> 11:22 PM) In hindsight...I think tonights outing has spelled an end to Logan. We will see Count back for Montero and than Nelson will be called up. In fact, if the Sox think he's ready, Nelson may be up even sooner than we think. Count for Montero is obvious of course, but the Nelson being up sooner than we think line....is that an educated guess or do you know something that we don't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 16, 2006 -> 09:31 PM) Count for Montero is obvious of course, but the Nelson being up sooner than we think line....is that an educated guess or do you know something that we don't? Educated guess that makes some sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Relax guys. The only reason Logan failed last night is because he hasn't logged enough high-leverage innings yet. Ozzie's just seeing what the kid can do. We're going to need him for the playoffs, especially the World Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ May 17, 2006 -> 12:15 AM) Relax guys. The only reason Logan failed last night is because he hasn't logged enough high-leverage innings yet. Ozzie's just seeing what the kid can do. We're going to need him for the playoffs, especially the World Series. god i hope that is sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ May 17, 2006 -> 12:17 AM) god i hope that is sarcasm. Of course... But that's how people were rationalizing the decision to allow him to pitch to Travis Hafner in the 8th inning of a 1-run game. It seems absurd to even think that he'd be in that situation now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ May 17, 2006 -> 12:25 AM) Of course... But that's how people were rationalizing the decision to allow him to pitch to Travis Hafner in the 8th inning of a 1-run game. It seems absurd to even think that he'd be in that situation now. I thought you lost your mind, good. Boone was a cute story but, his Brian Fuentes delivery minus the results absolutely suck. He is not only physically bad, but is a mental dumbass. Those plays were f***in absurd tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 It's time to ship him where he belongs, the minors. He's too young right now to help a big league ballclub consistently. Too bad he had such a good spring. He should never have made the parent club at such a young age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 17, 2006 -> 12:34 AM) No, thats not true at all. Boone has a wonderful spring, but should have been rewarded by going to AA, or maybe even AAA. I hate sounding like Flash or Fathom here, but its really frustrating when a team has a 100 million dollar payroll, and basically the one thieng keeping this team from being unstoppable is the mop up guys. I know its nearly impossible to have a perfect team, hell, it is impossible. But this team is damn near close, and its soooo frustrating to see the lack of arms in the pen hold us back. smart post, KW needs to get us one or two arms. Politte, Cotts and Jenks are fine. Thornton has his days and is nasty when on. Bmac is way out of position, how about putting garland in the pen, haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ May 17, 2006 -> 12:25 AM) Of course... But that's how people were rationalizing the decision to allow him to pitch to Travis Hafner in the 8th inning of a 1-run game. It seems absurd to even think that he'd be in that situation now. And how would we know that unless he had been put in those situations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:04 AM) And how would we know that unless he had been put in those situations? Common sense seems like the obvious answer, but since you had to ask the question.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:05 AM) Common sense seems like the obvious answer, but since you had to ask the question.... So we're just supposed to know a guy can't cut it in certain situations just because? If you say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:10 AM) So we're just supposed to know a guy can't cut it in certain situations just because? If you say so. It seems a bit naive to think a kid can handle the big leagues with just 5 (bad) innings above Rookie ball. No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:18 AM) It seems a bit naive to think a kid can handle the big leagues with just 5 (bad) innings above Rookie ball. No? Maybe, but he's on the team. Is Ozzie supposed to hide the kid for 162 games? He was gonna have to be tested in a situation like that at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:20 AM) Maybe, but he's on the team. Is Ozzie supposed to hide the kid for 162 games? He was gonna have to be tested in a situation like that at some point. ozzie works in mysterious ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:23 AM) ozzie works in mysterious ways. Those ways got us a title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:24 AM) Those ways got us a title. Confidence and talent are two different things, logan has neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:27 AM) Confidence and talent are two different things, logan has neither. Well, I won't say that. But it's clear he's not ready for the majors. I'm just saying that we weren't gonna find that out with Ozzie hiding him all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ May 17, 2006 -> 01:32 AM) Well, I won't say that. But it's clear he's not ready for the majors. I'm just saying that we weren't gonna find that out with Ozzie hiding him all year. It took ozzie a long time to use Cotts this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Jaiver Lopez, come on down. We were told in ST by those who said Logan would be good for the pen, because "he threw strikes". Well so much for that logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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