bjm676 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060421/sc_...wsbigcurveballs Busting Baseball Myths: Scientist Throws Big Curveballs Bjorn Carey LiveScience Staff Writer LiveScience.com Your Little League coach probably didn't know it, but every time he sent you to the plate with the instructions "keep your eye on the ball," he was giving you an impossible task. And if you followed the coach's advice of positioning yourself directly under a popup, you probably struggled to catch balls in the outfield, too. Ken Fuld, a baseball enthusiast and visual psychophysicist at the University of New Hampshire, has pored over numerous baseball studies and suggests that neither of these approaches produce optimal results. Instead, much to your coach's chagrin, you should try mimicking the quirks of the best Major League players. Major League heat At the Major League level, pitchers sling fastballs between 90 and 100 mph and sometimes a tweak faster. The ball moves far too swiftly for a batter to watch for its entire journey to home plate. "In the last few feet before the plate, the ball reaches an angular velocity that exceeds the ability of the eye to track the ball," Fuld told LiveScience. "The best hitters can track the ball to within 5 or 6 feet of the plate." After that, they shift their eyes to where they anticipate the ball will cross the plate. Some players "take" the first couple pitches of an "at bat" as they try to calibrate the movement and speed of a pitcher's offerings. Killer curve But a hitter is at the mercy of what the pitch does in those last few feet. That's when their eyes have left the ball and a nasty 12-to-6 curveball--a pitch named after the face of a clock and which drops top to bottom--can make even the best hitters swing out of their shoes. The pitch looks like it comes in straight, but during the instant the hitter is blind to the ball, a good curveball will have dropped a foot or more, and the batter will likely swing over the pitch. Because of its straight trajectory, many hitters have an easier time hitting a four-seam, 100-mph fastball than a lively curveball. Forkballs, sinkers, and split-fingered fastballs, all of which have tough-to-judge spin and dart around the strike zone, are similarly tough to hit. On the flipside are knuckleballs. Even though they're slow-moving and have little to no spin, they flutter erratically, making them one of the most difficult pitches to connect with. As legendary hitting coach Charlie Lau once said, "There are two theories on hitting a knuckleball. Unfortunately, neither of them works." The myth of the rising fastball Fuld has pondered other aspects of hitting that will interest any fan. When a hitter swings under the ball and misses, baseball announcers sometimes say the pitcher got him with a "rising fastball." But technically, this pitch cannot exist if thrown overhand--it's impossible for a pitch thrown downward to buck gravity and achieve upward lift. The rising fastball deceives the hitter in almost the opposite way a good curve does. A 90-mph fastball will drop significantly less than one thrown at 80 mph. So instead of dropping a few inches in the last few feet, a fastball with some serious zip will maintain a nearly straight trajectory. "If he thinks it's an 80-mph fastball, but it's really 90 mph, since it didn't drop it will appear to rise in that last instant," Fuld said. "It looks like it hops up, and that's the illusion of a rising fastball." See the ball, catch the ball Perceptions mess with minds in the field, too. Any pro would tell you that the hardest ball to catch is a line drive smoked right at them. Sure, there's the fear that it might put a dent in your forehead, but it's the lack of visual information that makes the ball difficult to judge. When a ball is hit to the left or right of a fielder, the player can observe the ball's velocity, acceleration, and angle to figure out where it might land. Some people might consider baseball players to be dumb jocks, but they're constantly doing geometry on the fly. "Good players do not run to a place where the ball will land and then wait for it, but rather catch the ball while running," Fuld said. "This is contrary to what many coaches prescribe, which is to 'get under the ball and not drift on it.'" When the ball is hit directly at a player, the only visual information available is velocity, making it difficult to determine the ball's path and even how long it will take to get there. So the next time you see a player for taking a lazy, jogging approach to catch a fly ball, you should praise him for his math skills rather than blasting him for not hustling. Assuming he catches it, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I have a book called "The Physics of Baseball". It's very scientific, but part of the book is dedicated to the "rising fastball". It's VERY interesting. To expand on what the above article says, basically the when a ball rotates faster it doesnt drop as much as a ball that rotates less. So, that rotation causes it flatten out and seem like it "jumped" because your brain is preprogrammed to how it SHOULD be dropping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 The problem with this article is that the author is taking all the expressions literally. When a coach tells you to keep you eye on the ball while hitting, what he is actually wanting you to do is keep your eye on it as long as possible. When he says 'get under the ball' in the outfield, he wants you get to the general area in time to make necessary adjustments. The expressions get the point across a lot better than the alternative suggested by this guy and therefore are more effective from a coaching standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 23, 2006 -> 06:21 AM) The problem with this article is that the author is taking all the expressions literally. When a coach tells you to keep you eye on the ball while hitting, what he is actually wanting you to do is keep your eye on it as long as possible. When he says 'get under the ball' in the outfield, he wants you get to the general area in time to make necessary adjustments. The expressions get the point across a lot better than the alternative suggested by this guy and therefore are more effective from a coaching standpoint. This is just media bias against baseball coaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 23, 2006 -> 07:21 AM) The problem with this article is that the author is taking all the expressions literally. When a coach tells you to keep you eye on the ball while hitting, what he is actually wanting you to do is keep your eye on it as long as possible. When he says 'get under the ball' in the outfield, he wants you get to the general area in time to make necessary adjustments. The expressions get the point across a lot better than the alternative suggested by this guy and therefore are more effective from a coaching standpoint. I also think the author is wrong about coaching little leaguers. You cannot compare keeping your eye on the ball in the major leagues to keeping your eye on the ball in little league Your Little League coach probably didn't know it, but every time he sent you to the plate with the instructions "keep your eye on the ball," he was giving you an impossible task. Why is that impossible for a child? He is facing lob pitches, I dont think its impossible for a kid to track the ball to his bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 23, 2006 -> 07:56 AM) This is just media bias against baseball coaches Only conservative baseball coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Next thing he'll tell us is a splitter doesn't actually split into 2 parts to avoid the bat. Moron. I have The Physics of Baseball too. It's a fun little reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 23, 2006 -> 07:56 AM) This is just media bias against baseball coaches haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 22, 2006 -> 10:51 PM) I have a book called "The Physics of Baseball". It's very scientific, but part of the book is dedicated to the "rising fastball". It's VERY interesting. To expand on what the above article says, basically the when a ball rotates faster it doesnt drop as much as a ball that rotates less. So, that rotation causes it flatten out and seem like it "jumped" because your brain is preprogrammed to how it SHOULD be dropping. Who wrote it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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