Kyyle23 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) I heard about this on Mike and Mike this morning, and I was totally blown away by how sexist Keith Hernandez was, and how big of a deal he made out of absolutely nothing. http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/grane...1s24graney.html It seems ol' Keith is a few back-door sliders short of reality. He needed just minutes while commenting as part of SportsNet New York's broadcast team to remind us sexism is alive and pitiful, openly questioning the presence of a woman in San Diego's dugout. The victim of his insensitive remarks was Kelly Calabrese, in her third season as the Padres' massage therapist and the first female to be employed full time in a major league training room. There isn't a person more respected in San Diego's clubhouse, confirmed yesterday as players and coaches charged to her defense. Players who often would not have seen the field if not for her skill. Mike Piazza had just homered in the second inning Saturday when television cameras panned San Diego's dugout. One of those offering the veteran catcher congratulations was Calabrese. Here is what viewers then heard from Hernandez and play-by-play announcer Gary Cohen: Hernandez: “Who's the girl in the dugout with the long hair? What's going on here? You gotta' be kidding me.” Cohen: “She's excited. Got a fist bump and everything.” Hernandez: “We'll get back to her. I'm not through with her.” A minute later, cameras again showed Calabrese. Hernandez: “I thought she was Morganna (referring to the woman who for more than two decades became baseball's unofficial mascot by jumping onto fields and kissing unsuspecting players) for a minute, but she wasn't a blonde. . . . I won't say women belong in the kitchen, but they don't belong in the dugout.” Cohen: “There's only trouble brewing if you say that, you know.” Hernandez: “You know I am only teasing. I love you gals out there. I always have. . . . Only in California. I just can't believe it. You think you've seen everything and, you know, there's always something new.” Then came the fifth inning – after the station undoubtedly received countless calls and e-mails demanding to know when Rush Limbaugh was hired as lead analyst – and the subject was revisited: Hernandez: “I know I made some strong statements that she didn't belong in the dugout. I stand by those statements. I think it's a man's game.” Hernandez issued an apology on air during yesterday's game and yet still couched it by insinuating that major league baseball's rules are strict about which members of a training staff can be present in the dugout. After the game, he refused comment twice. When asked a third time while walking into a restroom, he said: “What did I say?” Edited April 24, 2006 by kyyle23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 "looks like no play for mr. gray" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 what an idiot. I love when people show how old and out of date they are. Does he still got that stupid Mustache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 07:56 PM) what an idiot. I love when people show how old and out of date they are. Does he still got that stupid Mustache yep. and he's still a douchebag of the highest order. he's no walt frazier, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 "Keith Hernandez? I despise him." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Seriously, what an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbeFroman Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) Hard to identify THE greatest seinfeld moment... but this is on the list... KRAMER: I hate KEITH HERNANDEZ - hate him. NEWMAN: I despise him. ELAINE: Why? NEWMAN: Why? I'll tell you why... KRAMER: Let me tell it .. NEWMAN: No, you can't tell it .. KRAMER: You always tell it .. NEWMAN: All right, tell it. KRAMER: Ja ja ja - just tell it NEWMAN: June 14, 1987.... Mets Phillies. We're enjoying a beautiful afternoon in the right field stands when a crucial Hernandez error to a five run Phillies ninth. Cost the Mets the game. KRAMER: Our day was ruined. There was a lot of people, you know, they were waiting by the player's parking lot. Now we're coming down the ramp ... Newman was in front of me. Keith was coming toward us, as he passes Newman turns and says, " Nice game pretty boy.". Keith continued past us up the ramp. NEWMAN: A second later, something happened that changed us in a deep and profound way front that day forward. ELAINE: What was it? KRAMER: He spit on us.... and I screamed out, "I'm hit!" NEWMAN: Then I turned and the spit ricochet of him and it hit me. ELAINE: Wow! What a story. JERRY: Unfortunately the immutable laws of physics contradict the whole premise of your account. Allow me to reconstruct this if I may for Miss Benes as I've heard this story a number of times. JERRY: Newman, Kramer, if you'll indulge me. According to your story Keith passes you and starts walking up the ramp then you say you were struck on the right temple. The spit then proceeds to ricochet off the temple striking Newman between the third and forth rib. The spit then cam off the rib turned and hit Newman in the right wrist causing him to drop his baseball cap. The spit then splashed off the wrist, Pauses In mid air mind you- makes a left turn and lands on Newman's left thigh. That is one magic luggie. Edited April 24, 2006 by AbeFroman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 ahhhh, where to start with this. Yes I think he shouldn't have said those things and no I'm not going to defend him for saying those things. What hurt him to most in my opinion was the last part where he said he stands by what he said. When I see this I see two things wrong with our standards here. 1. Obviously times have changed and that doesn't need to be said at all. 2. I also feel like there could be a double standard here mainly because a man said it about a woman. I'm trying to think of a scenario where it's the opposite but I just can't. I don't know, I guess for the longest time a delivery room was no place for a man and that was ruled to be ok. That's the best I have right now. I just think there's somewhat of a double standard, but none the less they were stupid comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 This is the same guy who lost his 1986 World Series ring for WEEKS....announced to the media it was lost, only to end up finding it under his own couch cushion. Yeah, what he says means little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Wasn't Hernandez on the Met's party monster team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 09:18 PM) ahhhh, where to start with this. Yes I think he shouldn't have said those things and no I'm not going to defend him for saying those things. What hurt him to most in my opinion was the last part where he said he stands by what he said. When I see this I see two things wrong with our standards here. 1. Obviously times have changed and that doesn't need to be said at all. 2. I also feel like there could be a double standard here mainly because a man said it about a woman. I'm trying to think of a scenario where it's the opposite but I just can't. I don't know, I guess for the longest time a delivery room was no place for a man and that was ruled to be ok. That's the best I have right now. I just think there's somewhat of a double standard, but none the less they were stupid comments. I dont see any sort of a double standard. And he definitely had a chance to regroup and use a mulligan, but he only made the problem worse and stood by his remarks. Supposedly he has been reprimanded, whatever that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 10:26 PM) I dont see any sort of a double standard. And he definitely had a chance to regroup and use a mulligan, but he only made the problem worse and stood by his remarks. Supposedly he has been reprimanded, whatever that means. I said the worst part of his comments was when he backed them up. I'm thinking we agree on that. Edited April 25, 2006 by WilliamTell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 10:58 PM) I said the worst part of his comments was when he backed them up. I'm thinking we agree on that. Yes, we agree on that completely. Sorry I didnt make that more clear, I didnt mean to make my post seem like I was arguing with that point. I just dont see a double standard, thats all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 01:56 PM) what an idiot. I love when people show how old and out of date they are. Does he still got that stupid Mustache I love when people use a discriminatory remark to critcize someone for making a discriminatory remark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 06:09 AM) I love when people use a discriminatory remark to critcize someone for making a discriminatory remark. Not sure how "idiot" is discriminatory, especially when that's exactly what Hernandez is in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 07:24 AM) Not sure how "idiot" is discriminatory, especially when that's exactly what Hernandez is in this case. Idiot wasn't. It was the comments about 'old people'. Age discrimination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 07:25 AM) Age discrimination. Or perhaps Keith's mustache makes him a victim of fashion discrimination? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I was wondering if he was talking about Mustache Discrimination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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