GoSox05 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I think he's pretty good. He seems to be right alot. I know Ryan Leaf isn't a big fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Excuse me....he worked long and hard for his title. It should read....Mel Kiper Jr., Draft Expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I respect his knowledge and think he knows his s*** but he comes off as a tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 04:33 PM) I respect his knowledge and think he knows his s*** but he comes off as a tool ^^^ I hate the guy, but I'm not going to deny that he's good at his craft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Count Chocula's love child knows his stuff when it comes to college players translating to NFL players. He doesnt get his due IMO because of his arrogance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 It's so fashionable to bash on this guy and his Eddie Muster looks, but, the truth of the matter is, this guy knows his stuff, is in the know, and rarely misses. I've been following the draft for years now and I have to say Kiper is quite good at what he does. Yes, every now and then he can be accused of having an ESPN East-coast-bias type vibe on certain players and certain programs, but, I like the guy, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 04:31 PM) It's so fashionable to bash on this guy and his Eddie Muster looks, but, the truth of the matter is, this guy knows his stuff, is in the know, and rarely misses. Kiper misses just as often as anyone else. He knows his stuff, but I think just about anyone could know that much stuff if that was their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I guess I don't mind him too much. He does know his stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Kiper has more access to information than most people. Other than that he is about as good or bad as anyone else who follows football on a consistent basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 03:38 PM) Kiper misses just as often as anyone else. He knows his stuff, but I think just about anyone could know that much stuff if that was their job. Correct. I think that's where I was heading, but, my wording was misfortunate. I'm sick and tired of people saying anyone could know/do the jobs of people like Bruce Levine and Mel Kiper if they had the same resources. Well, you know what, you don't. They do. They get paid for it. They are in the know. You are not. /endrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 After working with some football teams and agents, I can confidently say that they trust his evaluations of players more than anyone else in the field....and it's not even close. Kiper Jr.'s big book every year is the Bible to football executives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 03:44 PM) After working with some football teams and agents, I can confidently say that they trust his evaluations of players more than anyone else in the field....and it's not even close. Kiper Jr.'s big book every year is the Bible to football executives. The only contact I have in the Chicago Bears organization--front office--has told me the same thing on not one, but two separate occasions. He has a sterling repuation amongst NFL officials and his opinion is highly regarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbeFroman Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) I think he's pretty good... but he tends to play his favorites... He hates Jay Cutler... Edited April 24, 2006 by AbeFroman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 QUOTE(AbeFroman @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 03:59 PM) I think he's pretty good... but he tends to play his favorites... He hates Jay Cutler... In that, he is correct. Case in point. The guy knows his stuff. Cutler is J.P. Lossman/Kyle Boller part deux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 05:02 PM) Cutler is J.P. Lossman part deux. That's exactly 100% the comparison I am making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 He is ok I can take or leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxhawks Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Kiper does not use much of his own opinion just puts out how he thinks the draft will go, I would have much more respect for him if he did not go the safe route but instead said who are the best players in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 he does do his own bog board which is shown on draft day that kinda does what you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 i've actually started to like mel a lot more listening to his work on espnradio every saturday. i think he has a pretty decent sense of humor and presents valid arguments for his opinions. in terms of his talent evaluating, it's hit or miss. but really, what evaluator isn't? general managers blow it every year and they're supposed to be the real experts. this is such an inexact science, that those "in the know" are bound to be wrong a lot. the only thing i don't like about mel is the fact he eats pumpkin pie for breakfast every morning. that's just downright weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 QUOTE(soxhawks @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 07:33 PM) Kiper does not use much of his own opinion just puts out how he thinks the draft will go, I would have much more respect for him if he did not go the safe route but instead said who are the best players in order. Thats not what I find with kiper. I think he analyzes team needs and cross-references it to the best players in the draft. Sometimes it looks like the safe route, but if he is right, he is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Yes he does a good job and i tend to follow him out of anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 05:30 PM) That's exactly 100% the comparison I am making Well let's hope Cutler is an MVP caliber QB after 3-4 years in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False Alarm Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 did mel kiper coin, or just popularize, the word "tweener"? regardless, i love him for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 QUOTE(False Alarm @ Apr 25, 2006 -> 07:48 PM) did mel kiper coin, or just popularize, the word "tweener"? regardless, i love him for it. no, i think that was alexis arquette... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbeFroman Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Apr 24, 2006 -> 04:02 PM) In that, he is correct. Case in point. The guy knows his stuff. Cutler is J.P. Lossman/Kyle Boller part deux. Mel Kiper Jr. loved Kyle Boller though... he got that one wrong. I think he was just lukewarm on Losman... who genuinely sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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