SSH2005 Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 an out occurs in that situation when either the ball beats him back to the bag or he is tagged out. neither had happened. with his speed he couldve at least forced a throw to third. we all know stranger things have happened. ask cub fans. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ozuna was pretty much dead-to-rights. Calling for the squeeze was the mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 i'd really love a promising outing from cliff right here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ May 7, 2006 -> 01:44 PM) Calling for the squeeze was the mistake. For the third time, would you like to tell us one more time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 i'd really love a promising outing from cliff right here <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He's off to a good start right there. He needs to keep it up, that slider was located very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ May 7, 2006 -> 02:45 PM) For the third time, would you like to tell us one more time? Perhaps others should stop harping on Ozuna then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 For the third time, would you like to tell us one more time? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay. It was a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 "Good outing for Mark Buehrle." -Hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxmanager Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ May 7, 2006 -> 12:44 PM) Ozuna was pretty much dead-to-rights. Calling for the squeeze was the mistake. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> he is dead to rights when he is out. look this is a very little thing but definitely something that ozzie will address to his team. he doesnt overlook even these little things. at least that is my take on how baseball should be played and the type of manager ozzie is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ May 7, 2006 -> 07:44 PM) Ozuna was pretty much dead-to-rights. Calling for the squeeze was the mistake. He has absolutely no chance in that situation. You might as well hope that the defense drops the ball then. I didn't like the call, but shockingly, I understand why Ozzie did it. Iguchi's normally a very good bunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Not a good pitch there. 2 down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Cliff does not look horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ May 7, 2006 -> 07:47 PM) he is dead to rights when he is out. look this is a very little thing but definitely something that ozzie will address to his team. he doesnt overlook even these little things. at least that is my take on how baseball should be played and the type of manager ozzie is. No offense manager, but you're wrong here. The last thing a runner on 3rd can do in that situation is be tentative. If the squeeze is called, it's either going to work or it's an easy, easy out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 02:48 PM) No offense manager, but you're wrong here. The last thing a runner on 3rd can do in that situation is be tentative. If the squeeze is called, it's either going to work or it's an easy, easy out. That's exactly why it was a "suicide" and not a "saftey" squeeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 02:48 PM) No offense manager, but you're wrong here. The last thing a runner on 3rd can do in that situation is be tentative. If the squeeze is called, it's either going to work or it's an easy, easy out. Being tentative only makes it worse. If he doesn't go right away, he's caught in a pickle. Or he is tagged out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Can Hawk and DJ please, PLEASE stop talking about bologna and liverwurst?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Got away with a hanger to Graffy, but we'll take the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Cliffys had his first good inning in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 01:48 PM) No offense manager, but you're wrong here. The last thing a runner on 3rd can do in that situation is be tentative. If the squeeze is called, it's either going to work or it's an easy, easy out. No. He has a point. If Ozuna would have turned and sprinted back toward 3rd, the pitcher might have thrown the ball down the line. You have to make them make the play without just giving up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(YASNY @ May 7, 2006 -> 02:52 PM) No. He has a point. If Ozuna would have turned and sprinted back toward 3rd, the pitcher might have thrown the ball down the line. You have to make them make the play without just giving up on it. It all starts with the bunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(YASNY @ May 7, 2006 -> 07:52 PM) No. He has a point. If Ozuna would have turned and sprinted back toward 3rd, the pitcher might have thrown the ball down the line. You have to make them make the play without just giving up on it. It's hard though to judge the ball off the bat. Ozuna is focusing just as much on the plate as he is to where the ball goes. By that time, he's so far down the line, he has no chance to get back. With all of his momentum heading towards home, by the time the pitcher catches it, Ozuna would still be 60 feet off of 3rd base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 01:54 PM) It's hard though to judge the ball off the bat. Ozuna is focusing just as much on the plate as he is to where the ball goes. By that time, he's so far down the line, he has no chance to get back. With all of his momentum heading towards home, by the time the pitcher catches it, Ozuna would still be 60 feet off of 3rd base. All that is true. But still, if he would have turned and sprinted back toward 3rd, that would have forced a throw instead of just a tag. Throwing errors do happen from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 There goes taz again!!!! Another K and off to China he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 why doesnt someone tell juan to just wait an extra second, then swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ May 7, 2006 -> 07:57 PM) why doesnt someone tell juan to just wait an extra second, then swing. I think he's the only person at the park who didn't know a changeup was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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