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QUOTE(YASNY @ May 7, 2006 -> 02:56 PM)
All that is true.  But still, if he would have turned and sprinted back toward 3rd, that would have forced a throw instead of just a tag.  Throwing errors do happen from time to time.

You can't count on throwing errors to happen.

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QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ May 7, 2006 -> 01:59 PM)
You can't count on throwing errors to happen.

 

What? That argument makes no sense. Pablo stood there and waited to be tagged. If he attempts to get back to 3rd, then MAYBE a throwing error happens. By running back, he forces a throw where something COULD happen. Waiting for the tag eliminated any risk of an error.

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QUOTE(YASNY @ May 7, 2006 -> 08:02 PM)
What?  That argument makes no sense.  Pablo stood there and waited to be tagged.  If he attempts to get back to 3rd, then MAYBE a throwing error happens.  By running back, he forces a throw where something COULD happen.  Waiting for the tag eliminated any risk of an error.

 

That's true, but I disagreed with manager cause he made it seem like it was a case of Ozuna not hustling. Basically, once the squeezed is popped up in the air, you're screwed.

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QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 12:48 PM)
No offense manager, but you're wrong here.  The last thing a runner on 3rd can do in that situation is be tentative.  If the squeeze is called, it's either going to work or it's an easy, easy out.

 

the issue is the effort back to 3rd not the suicide being tentative or not. by the time the pitcher caught it ozuna wasnt across home. he decided to take 3 more steps and give himself up. IMO he had time to make a play back at third. look im not on the field and maybe im wrong but little things matter!

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QUOTE(Rowand44 @ May 7, 2006 -> 08:03 PM)
Wish we'd take Cliff out here to be honest.  If he pitches like he did last inning he might get rocked and it'd be nice for him to leave with some confidence.

 

Brown's been swinging the bat fairly well this series.

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QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ May 7, 2006 -> 08:03 PM)
the issue is the effort back to 3rd not the suicide being tentative or not.  by the time the pitcher caught it ozuna wasnt across home.  he decided to take 3 more steps and give himself up.  IMO he had time to make a play back at third.  look im not on the field and maybe im wrong but little things matter!

 

If Ozuna would have had the ability to just quickly pivot and run back to 3rd, then he's playing the wrong sport. Barry Sanders would be proud of that footwork.

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QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 02:04 PM)
If Ozuna would have had the ability to just quickly pivot and run back to 3rd, then he's playing the wrong sport.  Barry Sanders would be proud of that footwork.

 

Nobody would have expected Ozuna to be successful in his attempt to get back. But, you have to try and force them to actually make the play.

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QUOTE(YASNY @ May 7, 2006 -> 08:07 PM)
Nobody would have expected Ozuna to be successful in his attempt to get back.  But, you have to try and force them to actually make the play.

 

But what if the pitcher drops the ball, and Ozuna has changed direction? Then, he's in a pickle, and you don't score that run. I see your point though, and it's something that you don't see in baseball too often.

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QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 02:08 PM)
But what if the pitcher drops the ball, and Ozuna has changed direction?  Then, he's in a pickle, and you don't score that run.  I see your point though, and it's something that you don't see in baseball too often.

 

It's nitpicking, either way. But once Ozuna knew the ball was caught, I believe he should have at least made an attempt.

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