rangercal Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 What does Charlie have to do during his stint to stay up, if anything? Who would he replace eventually? Just posting this in advance, because everybody else will if he pitches a gem tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I dont think he does. As I said before, I do not think Knuckleballers are good our of the pen, and we really dont need another SP if JC comes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Good lord, I love this team. If it appears that he's not ready after tonight, it's not a big deal. However, if he is, we'll have an excellent problem on our hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Right now, I just don't see a good spot for him on the ML roster. There's no one who's got the combination of minor league options left and poor enough numbers to justify holding him up barring another major injury. BMac, Logan, Jenks, and Cotts are probably the only ones in our bullpen who even have options left. Logan has the 2nd best ERA on our team right now (Thanks in part to other people), Cotts has come around, Jenks is 10/11 in saves, etc. Brandon's the only one who right now has had a bad time of late, and even he ain't going anywhere for Charlie. Charlie pitches 2 dynamite games and he may very well find himself starting for someone else's big league team within a month or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Of course he has a shot...Contreras has a shot to be on the DL longer than what he is required to be. If he does stay up, I just hope it's not as part of the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I'd rather see him develop at Charlotte. He's only 22 and could be valuable in the future as a trading chip or if we have a starter go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 It's common knowledge that a knuckleball pitcher can not be an effective ML reliever. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 QUOTE(rangercal @ May 10, 2006 -> 02:45 PM) What does Charlie have to do during his stint to stay up, if anything? Who would he replace eventually? Just posting this in advance, because everybody else will if he pitches a gem tonight. I don't think he has a chance to stay up at this point. If Contreras requires more time on the DL, McCarthy will be put into the rotation, and the Sox will have to call up a MR (Lopez or maybe Tracey?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 If Charlie comes up, and has 2 great starts, it certainly will put the cat among the pigeons. Since he's got plenty of options, I'd probably still prefer to move him back down to Charlotte. But if I'm KW, and if I could trade Haeger to a team that really needed a young starter, if they were willing to overpay by including a real good prospect, then yeah I would go for it. I think we've got better SP prospects in the minors anyway. I would love to get a good middle infield prospect for or farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Haeger, Fields, and a couple of A Ball pitching prospects for Miguel Cabrera, Miguel Olivo, and all other Miguels in the Florida Marlins organization Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 In terms of joining the rotation in the future, BMac better be in it before Haeger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 10, 2006 -> 02:48 PM) I dont think he does. As I said before, I do not think Knuckleballers are good our of the pen, and we really dont need another SP if JC comes back. Hoyt Wilhelm was pretty good out of the bullpen. Its also how Wilbur Wood started out, and Tim Wakefield has made numerous appearances out of the bullpen, and I believe was a closer at one point. I really don't see where there much room for him on the staff, unless its for a guy like Logan, once Contreras gets back, but if he does well enough, he be a great candidate to trade if a need arises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 10, 2006 -> 03:34 PM) Hoyt Wilhelm was pretty good out of the bullpen. Its also how Wilbur Wood started out, and Tim Wakefield has made numerous appearances out of the bullpen, and I believe was a closer at one point. I really don't see where there much room for him on the staff, unless its for a guy like Logan, once Contreras gets back, but if he does well enough, he be a great candidate to trade if a need arises. In my view, the walks, steals and past balls are enough to make me not want to bring in a knuckleballer with runners on the bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Yeah he probably has a shot, tonight will be a huge factor, we'll see I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 10, 2006 -> 03:52 PM) In my view, the walks, steals and past balls are enough to make me not want to bring in a knuckleballer with runners on the bases. Obviously the catcher is important. It will be interesting to see how AJ handles it. If one gets by him every at bat, I would agree that the Sox probably wouldn't want to throw Haeger in a tight game with a man or 2 or 3 on. If he's as effective as he's been in Charlotte, or close to it, if he at least starts an inning, not many are going to get on. The Sox have a couple pitchers who can't hold guys on in Conteras and Garcia. I also think those 2 finished first and second in wild pitches last season. Haeger is just like any other rookie, he's going to have to prove he can get major league hitters out. Watching the last few the Sox have trotted out from Charlotte, the odds seem to favor him getting lit up, but if he's lights out, they probably should keep him on the roster. Edited May 10, 2006 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 (edited) - Gload + Haeger(good start) = good 6 Man Rotation Not sure if I passed my math final, but you get the idea Edited May 10, 2006 by TheBigHurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeman89 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 what if haeger pitches a perfect game tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 10, 2006 -> 04:01 PM) Obviously the catcher is important. It will be interesting to see how AJ handles it. If one gets by him every at bat, I would agree that the Sox probably wouldn't want to throw Haeger in a tight game with a man or 2 or 3 on. If he's as effective as he's been in Charlotte, or close to it, if he at least starts an inning, not many are going to get on. The Sox have a couple pitchers who can't hold guys on in Conteras and Garcia. I also think those 2 finished first and second in wild pitches last season. Haeger is just like any other rookie, he's going to have to prove he can get major league hitters out. Watching the last few the Sox have trotted out from Charlotte, the odds seem to favor him getting lit up, but if he's lights out, they probably should keep him on the roster. After watching him, would you like him coming out of the pen with men on? I sure as s*** wouldnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 I'm gonna guess that after tonight, McCarthy gets Jose's next start. Just a hunch after tonight's Walk-A-Thon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ May 10, 2006 -> 09:05 PM) I'm gonna guess that after tonight, McCarthy gets Jose's next start. Just a hunch after tonight's Walk-A-Thon Won't happen if Contreras is on schedule to return May 20th. You can book that. Not worth it to make McCarthy stretch out and then send him back to the pen just for one start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 10, 2006 -> 08:16 PM) Won't happen if Contreras is on schedule to return May 20th. You can book that. Not worth it to make McCarthy stretch out and then send him back to the pen just for one start. We can only hope Jose is ready for May 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 "Haeger, does he have a shot to STAY up?" Not with his complete lack of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ May 10, 2006 -> 09:29 PM) "Haeger, does he have a shot to STAY up?" Not with his complete lack of control. Excellent post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 He will not stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Captain Obvious and the King of Hindsight everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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