Royals Fire GM Baird

[Jimbo's Drinker]

new gm of royals??

[greasywheels121]

That'd be excellent. Get him off of ESPN.

 

He probably did great in his mock press conference.

[Benchwarmerjim]

He probably did great in his mock press conference.

 

 

wasn't he the one who traded Scott Kazmir to the D-Rays for one of the Zambranos?

Edited May 11, 2006 by Benchwarmerjim

[witesoxfan]

 

wasn't he the one who traded Scott Kazmir to the D-Rays for one of the Zambranos?

 

I'm not sure he's even that dumb.

 

That was Jim Duquette. What a horrid trade that was

[Rowand44]

Wow, it just keeps getting worse for the Royals.

[Jimbo's Drinker]

I guess this may not be true, supposedly ESPN had it on their bottom line and then denied it.

[southsider2k5]

new gm of royals??

 

The thing is with a little luck on injuries, the Royals could be a decent team in a couple of years. They have a TON of great young pitching arms, and some hitters who just need some seasoning... but it seems like they are just jinxed. Heck thing about the problems already this year. Their number 1 starter just came back from Tommy John, their number 2 starter had somekind of personal problems which knocked him out for a long while, they closer got hurt during the spring, their franchise player has a horrible back... Heck there was a game against us where in May, KC trotted out a line up with 3 total home runs between all of the starters. We had 5 guys in our starting line up with at least that many.

 

If KC were to spend a little bit of money on some solid vets who could knock in some runs, AND stay healthy, they could be a good team with no injuries. The next GM/MGR here could look like a genius for doing very little.

[Kyyle23]

Off the GM topic, I was watching a little bit of the Cardinals-Rockies game on ESPN yesterday, and Stone had me cracking up. He was ribbing Phillips about firing Clint Hurdle as a Minor League manager in the Mets organization, and then started talking about how Steve Phillips has fired everyone he could. Phillips just kept saying "You guys are brutal!", it was great.

[WCSox]

new gm of royals??

 

Is this just speculation or is somebody reporting that he interviewed?

[Balta1701]

Is this just speculation or is somebody reporting that he interviewed?

I've heard it rumored in more than 1 place today, so if it is just speculation, it's being speculated in a lot of places. But supposedly the Royals do have a decent stack of candidates, so it's not written in stone.

[Cerbaho-WG]

The thing is with a little luck on injuries, the Royals could be a decent team in a couple of years. They have a TON of great young pitching arms, and some hitters who just need some seasoning... but it seems like they are just jinxed. Heck thing about the problems already this year. Their number 1 starter just came back from Tommy John, their number 2 starter had somekind of personal problems which knocked him out for a long while, they closer got hurt during the spring, their franchise player has a horrible back... Heck there was a game against us where in May, KC trotted out a line up with 3 total home runs between all of the starters. We had 5 guys in our starting line up with at least that many.

 

If KC were to spend a little bit of money on some solid vets who could knock in some runs, AND stay healthy, they could be a good team with no injuries. The next GM/MGR here could look like a genius for doing very little.

 

I disagree whole heartedly. While KC does have some very good pieces in their farm system (Alex Gordon, Billy Butler, Huber looks pretty good), they have absolutely zero pitching outside of Grienke and Sisco. And when you throw your FA money at people like Redman, Elarton, Sanders and couple it with some abysmal trades (Wood, Buck, Teahen(, it's obvious the problem isn't bad luck, it's poor management.

[witesoxfan]

I disagree whole heartedly. While KC does have some very good pieces in their farm system (Alex Gordon, Billy Butler, Huber looks pretty good), they have absolutely zero pitching outside of Grienke and Sisco. And when you throw your FA money at people like Redman, Elarton, Sanders and couple it with some abysmal trades (Wood, Buck, Teahen(, it's obvious the problem isn't bad luck, it's poor management.

 

Agreed very much. Burgos looks like he has a good arm though too.

 

The best thing KC can do is trade absolutely anyone over the age of like 30-32 this year at the deadline for any guy that has a glimmer of hope, and build from there.

[RockRaines]

I disagree whole heartedly. While KC does have some very good pieces in their farm system (Alex Gordon, Billy Butler, Huber looks pretty good), they have absolutely zero pitching outside of Grienke and Sisco. And when you throw your FA money at people like Redman, Elarton, Sanders and couple it with some abysmal trades (Wood, Buck, Teahen(, it's obvious the problem isn't bad luck, it's poor management.

Eh, their minor league system has been openly criticized of being devoid of talent, especially after this many top picks. Also they never really received much from trading their all star outfield of Dye, Beltran and Damon. The org is crappy, as is their owner.

[DBAHO]

They should have put the money they put into FA's like Sanders, Grudz etc. into the farm system and scouting. There's not going to be a quick fix for this organization. They don't have much good young pitching, which is a rebuilding club needs. J.P Howell's not a bad prospect, but they don't really have anyone else in the minors.

 

GM wise, Steve Phillips would be a HORRIBLE choice, but with this franchise, nothing would suprise me. They need a young up and comer from another organization, kind of like Josh Byrnes.

[RockRaines]

They should have put the money they put into FA's like Sanders, Grudz etc. into the farm system and scouting. There's not going to be a quick fix for this organization. They don't have much good young pitching, which is a rebuilding club needs. J.P Howell's not a bad prospect, but they don't really have anyone else in the minors.

 

GM wise, Steve Phillips would be a HORRIBLE choice, but with this franchise, nothing would suprise me. They need a young up and comer from another organization, kind of like Josh Byrnes.

Umm, if they havent considered Dave Wilder, its a f***ing crime.

[DBAHO]

Umm, if they havent considered Dave Wilder, its a f***ing crime.

Yeah Wilder would be a good choice. But consider this from Dave Wilder's point of view. Why take the Kansas City job if it's offered to you, when you could possibly wait it out a little longer and get a better job like in say Baltimore, Seattle or Washington?

[RockRaines]

Yeah Wilder would be a good choice. But consider this from Dave Wilder's point of view. Why take the Kansas City job if it's offered to you, when you could possibly wait it out a little longer and get a better job like in say Baltimore, Seattle or Washington?

Dont know, but he should be near the top of their list. You are talking about someone who has run minor league systems and player dev for awhile, and has a rep for being good with that aspect of baseball.

[S720]

Eh, their minor league system has been openly criticized of being devoid of talent, especially after this many top picks. Also they never really received much from trading their all star outfield of Dye, Beltran and Damon. The org is crappy, as is their owner.

 

How the hell you traded away Beltran, Damon and Dye and got almost NOTHING back is beyond my understanding AND imagination!

[DBAHO]

How the hell you traded away Beltran, Damon and Dye and got almost NOTHING back is beyond my understanding AND imagination!

Baird made the mistake of trading Beltran for not the best prospects he could get, but for prospects that filled a need for the Royals.

 

Needless to say, Buck and Teahen have not paid off.

[RockRaines]

How the hell you traded away Beltran, Damon and Dye and got almost NOTHING back is beyond my understanding AND imagination!

Dye: July 25, 2001: Traded by the Kansas City Royals to the Colorado Rockies for Neifi Perez.

 

Damon: January 8, 2001: Traded as part of a 3-team trade by the Kansas City Royals with Mark Ellis to the Oakland Athletics. The Oakland Athletics sent Ben Grieve to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. The Oakland Athletics sent Angel Berroa and A.J. Hinch to the Kansas City Royals. The Tampa Bay Devil Rays sent Cory Lidle to the Oakland Athletics. The Tampa Bay Devil Rays sent Roberto Hernandez to the Kansas City Royals.

 

Beltran: June 24, 2004: Traded as part of a 3-team trade by the Kansas City Royals to the Houston Astros. The Oakland Athletics sent Mike Wood and Mark Teahen (minors) to the Kansas City Royals. The Houston Astros sent Octavio Dotel to the Oakland Athletics. The Houston Astros sent John Buck and cash to the Kansas City Royals.

[witesoxfan]

Dye: July 25, 2001: Traded by the Kansas City Royals to the Colorado Rockies for Neifi Perez.

 

Damon: January 8, 2001: Traded as part of a 3-team trade by the Kansas City Royals with Mark Ellis to the Oakland Athletics. The Oakland Athletics sent Ben Grieve to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. The Oakland Athletics sent Angel Berroa and A.J. Hinch to the Kansas City Royals. The Tampa Bay Devil Rays sent Cory Lidle to the Oakland Athletics. The Tampa Bay Devil Rays sent Roberto Hernandez to the Kansas City Royals.

 

Beltran: June 24, 2004: Traded as part of a 3-team trade by the Kansas City Royals to the Houston Astros. The Oakland Athletics sent Mike Wood and Mark Teahen (minors) to the Kansas City Royals. The Houston Astros sent Octavio Dotel to the Oakland Athletics. The Houston Astros sent John Buck and cash to the Kansas City Royals.

 

And Sox fans were unhappy about the Ritchie deal...imagine that deal, twice as bad, three times over. Ouch.

[DBAHO]

Good get for the Royals if its true;

 

Braves assistant general manager Dayton Moore is considering an offer to become the Royals' next GM, FOXSports.com has learned.

 

The offer is believed to be for five years. The deadline for Moore to accept the Royals' proposal is not known.

The Royals, a major-league worst 10-35 and losers of 13 straight games entering Friday's play, have yet to dismiss their current GM, Allard Baird.

 

Owner David Glass, however, first raised the possibility of significant changes on May 4. In repeated public comments, he has not backed off that stance.

 

Moore, 39, is considered a rising star in the industry. He interviewed for the Red Sox GM vacancy last off-season before Theo Epstein reclaimed his position.

 

The hiring of Moore, should it occur within the next several days, would come as teams are completing their plans for the amateur draft on June 6 and 7. The Royals hold the No. 1 pick.

 

Some in baseball expected the Royals to delay making a change until after the draft. But Moore, who oversees the Braves' scouting and player development, has been intimately involved in draft preparations, and could make a relatively smooth transition. He previously worked with Royals scouting director Deric Ladnier in the Braves' organization.

[Dick Allen]

Good get for the Royals if its true;

I know its a GM job and one of only 30 in the world, but if this guy is the rising star the article pegs him to be, I don't know why he would take the KC job unless they paid him ungodly sums of money. He should wait for an opening with an organization that can eventually win. KC is a long way from contending. Its one of those jobs where no matter how good you may be, you will most likely fail, and 5 years from now, when your contract runs out, you will be looking for another occupation.

[greasywheels121]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2464544

 

Baird has officially been fired.

[RockRaines]

Im still astonished that Dave Wilder's name hasnt come up.