aboz56 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Sox Armed For Battle With Cubs By Alex Bozich [email protected] It’s a tale of two clubs headed in completely different directions as the Cubs visit the White Sox beginning Friday for a three game set to kick off interleague play. Read More... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Great breakdown Aboz, I posted links to it on a few sites I browse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Comparing the year Crede's having with the year Ramirez is having, throw in some defense and I'd give a huge advantage to Crede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(YASNY @ May 18, 2006 -> 09:34 AM) Comparing the year Crede's having with the year Ramirez is having, throw in some defense and I'd give a huge advantage to Crede. That's a valid argument, but to me Ramirez is the best hitter they have and he's been a good player for a while now. I was tempted to give Crede the edge, but I've also gotta respect the type of hitter Ramirez can be. I believe hit hit a granny off of us at the Cell last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Great breakdown, although Ramirez hurt his back so we'll see if he plays all 3 games. I agree, Sox take 2 of 3 as Saturday is a win and we'll split the 2 great pitching matchups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 18, 2006 -> 08:36 AM) That's a valid argument, but to me Ramirez is the best hitter they have and he's been a good player for a while now. I was tempted to give Crede the edge, but I've also gotta respect the type of hitter Ramirez can be. I believe hit hit a granny off of us at the Cell last year. I assumed you took his past performance into consideration, but then Lee's not in the lineup now so he's having to carry the load. Ramirez with Lee in the lineup might be even, but without Lee it's not even close. I'm not trying to be difficult here. Just a discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keninem Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Great article, but I don't think I'd call the NL central "average". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(YASNY @ May 18, 2006 -> 09:44 AM) I assumed you took his past performance into consideration, but then Lee's not in the lineup now so he's having to carry the load. Ramirez with Lee in the lineup might be even, but without Lee it's not even close. I'm not trying to be difficult here. Just a discussion. Very good points you're making. I guess I'm not prepared to call Crede head and shoulders above Ramirez, at least not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Good stuff Boz. I think you nailed all the breakdown of who's got the edge at position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 18, 2006 -> 08:46 AM) I guess I'm not prepared to call Crede head and shoulders above Ramirez, at least not yet. I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox72 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Great Article!! Its going to be a fun series!! Though I don't know that I would declare AJ/Barrett Even. Their bats are pretty even, especially with AJ hitting the way he is now. But Barrett on defense is enough to make anyone want to throw up. The guy is an awful catcher. Having watched the game last Saturday (my wife, the damn cub fan) I watched Williamson throw two passed balls that there is no way AJ would have let by and Barrett did, very easily at that. That play is very defining as to what type of catcher he is. While I would rate AJ on the field among the best in the league (despite his arm), I would not hold the same for Barrett. JMO. Everything else was exactly as I would have said it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Glad to see some discussion on this. On the breakdowns, I tried to look at things from an even perspective and tried not to show much bias. What I came out with was fair to both teams IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 On paper it looks nice, but the stats go out the window for Sox/Cubs. The most dangerous team is a slumping team, because at some point, they WILL come out of it. The Cubs and Zambrano have looked like just maybe they're coming out of it, or at least have looked better this week. Mark, Jon and parts of our pen have looked kinda vulnerable lately at times. (I realize Jon's not pitching this series) I'd feel better if it was Vazquez, Garcia and Contreras. I never get too cocky about a Sox/Cubs series. Sunday's match up should be a good one. If Thome goes yard off Zambrano, this whole city will hear me cheer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 wow, friday and sunday are both real good pitching matchups. Should be fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ May 18, 2006 -> 10:03 AM) On paper it looks nice, but the stats go out the window for Sox/Cubs. The most dangerous team is a slumping team, because at some point, they WILL come out of it. The Cubs and Zambrano have looked like just maybe they're coming out of it, or at least have looked better this week. Mark, Jon and parts of our pen have looked kinda vulnerable lately at times. (I realize Jon's not pitching this series) I'd feel better if it was Vazquez, Garcia and Contreras. I never get too cocky about a Sox/Cubs series. Sunday's match up should be a good one. If Thome goes yard off Zambrano, this whole city will hear me cheer. Yeap, exactly right. That's why I said it'll all mean nothing unless the Sox come out and take care of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(keninem @ May 18, 2006 -> 08:46 AM) Great article, but I don't think I'd call the NL central "average". Will below average work for you? The NL is weak overall, and the NL central is the middle division in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Good stuff. I can't wait for the series to start. It would've been hilarious had the Sox waiting to give out the rings for this series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 18, 2006 -> 10:42 AM) Will below average work for you? The NL is weak overall, and the NL central is the middle division in it. Disagree. I think the NLC is the strongest of the NL divisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(SnB @ May 18, 2006 -> 09:07 AM) wow, friday and sunday are both real good pitching matchups. Should be fun Yeah, I love the finesse pitchers and the power pitchers going after each other. Although I think I most love having a rookie face off with Garcia because I think Hill is fixing to get schooled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 if you make it even for crede, then you have to at least give cedeno even as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I am pumped for this series I am watching all three games with a buddy of mine who is a die hard Cub fan so I am sure after a couple of beers fists will be flying. The only game that worries me is the Friday game not because Maddux is pitching but because the Sox have to play a night game in Tampa and fly back and not get in till 1:00 A.m. and turn around and play a day game. :fthecubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ May 18, 2006 -> 11:26 AM) Good stuff. I can't wait for the series to start. It would've been hilarious had the Sox waiting to give out the rings for this series. I think they should replay that awesome video from opening day before all 3 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(daa84 @ May 18, 2006 -> 12:45 PM) if you make it even for crede, then you have to at least give cedeno even as well.... Everything is up for debate, I'm just glad you guys aren't trashing me like you do Kotex Boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 18, 2006 -> 09:37 AM) Disagree. I think the NLC is the strongest of the NL divisions. I think its in order of East, Central, West. East has the Phils and Mets whom I think are both very good and I still won't write off the Braves. And than there is the West where almost any team in baseball would have a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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