Bmr31 Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 I never said it was. It's the gray area I tried to point out to you earlier in this thread. YOU discounted it. YOU said it was her fault. She should have left. But yet here comes a life experience that you were in where you were not removed from the situation. Does that make it your mom's fault? No. Get it? You need to start reading what people write. I said sosa is a piece s***. ITs his fault. All i said abotu the female is shes dumb for taking it without a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Holy s***! Bmr.. I am so very sorry. You did NOT say that. Social retard clujer did. My apologies. Really.. I am sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Holy s***! Bmr.. I am so very sorry. You did NOT say that. Social retard clujer did. My apologies. Really.. I am sorry. Its okay. Couldnt figure out why you were attacking me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Holy s***! Bmr.. I am so very sorry. You did NOT say that. Social retard clujer did. My apologies. Really.. I am sorry. Its okay. Couldnt figure out why you were attacking me. I am sooooo sorry! I'm crawling under the biggest rock right now. Geezus.. talk about open mouth insert foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Shouldn't she be the judge of that? I mean, if he hits her weekly just to get her attention, that's one thing. But one isolated incident from 12 years ago??? If she can forgive him for whatever he did one time, I can. Of course, he is still a jerk, don't get me wrong about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Shouldn't she be the judge of that? I mean, if he hits her weekly just to get her attention, that's one thing. But one isolated incident from 12 years ago??? If she can forgive him for whatever he did one time, I can. Of course, he is still a jerk, don't get me wrong about that. Well we dont have the facts. I believe in forgiving almost anything if it only happens once. The problem is, when it comes to abuse or cheating, its usually NOT an islotated incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 All this rapid-fire back-n-forth overshadowed my point, so I'll repost it: Expecting a battered woman (esp with children) to "just get up and leave his sorry ass" comes from the same woefully simplistic (problems of others tend to seem so simple, so black&white, don't they?) rulebook as telling someone with severe clinical depression and other chemical imbalance-related, debilitating illnesses to just "get over it"....nice thought it theory and may indeed work for the strongest of people, but for the normal majority reality is quite different. Sad but very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Holy s***! Bmr.. I am so very sorry. You did NOT say that. Social retard clujer did. My apologies. Really.. I am sorry. Its okay. Couldnt figure out why you were attacking me. I am sooooo sorry! I'm crawling under the biggest rock right now. Geezus.. talk about open mouth insert foot. Ahhh dont worry about it, we all do that from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 All this rapid-fire back-n-forth overshadowed my point, so I'll repost it: Expecting a battered woman (esp with children) to "just get up and leave his sorry ass" comes from the same woefully simplistic (problems of others tend to seem so simple, so black&white, don't they?) rulebook as telling someone with severe clinical depression and other chemical imbalance-related, debilitating illnesses to just "get over it"....nice thought it theory and may indeed work for the strongest of people, but for the normal majority reality is quite different. Sad but very true. You miss my point. Women ONLY BECOME BATTERED women, when they allow it to happen more than once. Once is a mulligan. After that leave and leave fast. It wont ever get to the point you refer to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Holy s***! Bmr.. I am so very sorry. You did NOT say that. Social retard clujer did. My apologies. Really.. I am sorry. Its okay. Couldnt figure out why you were attacking me. I am sooooo sorry! I'm crawling under the biggest rock right now. Geezus.. talk about open mouth insert foot. Wow someone who admits it when they are wrong There are so many of those kind of people on message boards Good job Steff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 All this rapid-fire back-n-forth overshadowed my point, so I'll repost it: Expecting a battered woman (esp with children) to "just get up and leave his sorry ass" comes from the same woefully simplistic (problems of others tend to seem so simple, so black&white, don't they?) rulebook as telling someone with severe clinical depression and other chemical imbalance-related, debilitating illnesses to just "get over it"....nice thought it theory and may indeed work for the strongest of people, but for the normal majority reality is quite different. Sad but very true. You miss my point. Women ONLY BECOME BATTERED women, when they allow it to happen more than once. Once is a mulligan. After that leave and leave fast. It wont ever get to the point you refer to. And your point, in turn, misses a little thing we like to call "complicated reality of life". Not every single case naturally (there are amazing women out there who bounce back quite nicely), but often enough for you assumption to be re-evaluated or at least to be tailed slightly closer to the "gray-shaded" specifications of...you guessed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 All this rapid-fire back-n-forth overshadowed my point, so I'll repost it: Expecting a battered woman (esp with children) to "just get up and leave his sorry ass" comes from the same woefully simplistic (problems of others tend to seem so simple, so black&white, don't they?) rulebook as telling someone with severe clinical depression and other chemical imbalance-related, debilitating illnesses to just "get over it"....nice thought it theory and may indeed work for the strongest of people, but for the normal majority reality is quite different. Sad but very true. You miss my point. Women ONLY BECOME BATTERED women, when they allow it to happen more than once. Once is a mulligan. After that leave and leave fast. It wont ever get to the point you refer to. And your point, in turn, misses a little thing we like to call "complicated reality of life". Not every single case naturally (there are amazing women out there who bounce back quite nicely), but often enough for you assumption to be re-evaluated or at least to be tailed slightly closer to the "gray-shaded" specifications of...you guessed it. English please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 1) She made the whole thing up to begin with and Sammy is innocent Only problem with this is is that you need evidence of physical contact to make a Domestic Violence arrest. People aren't arrested for batteries on hearsay without evidence that a battery did occur. She probably had a bruise or cut on her head from where the bottle (or other object which ShamME flung at her) made contact resulting in ShamME's arrest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleM23 Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Steff maybe one day youll see every situation isnt clear cut and based JUST on YOUR experience. You're the one totally defending the point that everything is clear cut and can be overlysimpified... She's the one looking at every situation in a its different, unique light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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