DBAHO Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Since the May 10 game against the Angels, Matt's pitched 2.2 innings of scoreless relief with 4 K's (with only 1 hit). I know it's not much in terms of a sample size, but he seems to have shaken off that back injury now, and he's starting to look fairly good again. And that's very important in the whole shape of our bullpen right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 I was very impressed today. He's got a lot of proving to do to me but I was definitely happy with what I saw today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 If he can harness his stuff, he's going to be damn good. He throws massive heat out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 I read somewhere that he said Ozzie has given him more confidence then any manager in his career..... I think he is going to start to turn it around.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Me and my 43 MPH fastball could make the cubs hitters look silly too... but it's still nice to see him turn it around.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Logan needs to go down tomorrow. End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 20, 2006 -> 11:32 PM) Logan needs to go down tomorrow. End of story. If Logan doesn't go down I would be totally shocked and angry. Logan is CLEARLY not ready for the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Thornton is consistently hitting 97-98mph on the speedgun these last few outings. Appears healthy to me. The slider Thornton threw to Jacque Jones today is EXACTLY the type of pitch he needs to harness. There was no radar gun available on FOX, but I'm guessing it had to be around 85-89 mph. Jones just froze at the plate. You have a effortless 97 mph fastball coupled with a high 80's breaking ball--even if it isn't very sharp--and you'll prove to be a valuable pitcher for someones bullpen. Hopefully ours. As I've always said, you can teach someone a certain pitch; can't teach velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 I was against this trade when it happened, but it's starting to look like the Sox made a good move. Of course, Thornton has had his share of bad innings so far, but nobody in the bullpen has been lights out, and having his 97 throwing southpay ass is probably more valuable than Borchard taking AB's away from Ozuna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 I think Montero will go down instead of Logan, but that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 21, 2006 -> 08:51 AM) I think Montero will go down instead of Logan, but that's just me. What if Montero AND Logan go down, Contreras comes off the DL and Nelson comes up? How long has Nelson been down there, only a week or more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ May 21, 2006 -> 01:54 PM) What if Montero AND Logan go down, Contreras comes off the DL and Nelson comes up? How long has Nelson been down there, only a week or more? It's only a matter of when Nelson comes up. Both the rooks will be gone within a week. QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ May 21, 2006 -> 08:28 AM) Thornton is consistently hitting 97-98mph on the speedgun these last few outings. Appears healthy to me. The slider Thornton threw to Jacque Jones today is EXACTLY the type of pitch he needs to harness. There was no radar gun available on FOX, but I'm guessing it had to be around 85-89 mph. Jones just froze at the plate. You have a effortless 97 mph fastball coupled with a high 80's breaking ball--even if it isn't very sharp--and you'll prove to be a valuable pitcher for someones bullpen. Hopefully ours. As I've always said, you can teach someone a certain pitch; can't teach velocity. I didn't see his slider. But if he can throw that or any offspeed pitch for a strike, he'll be huge. Players then just can't sit on his FB. One thing I've noticed, Thornton looks very composed and calm out there. He didn't have that look to him during spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ May 21, 2006 -> 01:28 PM) I was against this trade when it happened, but it's starting to look like the Sox made a good move. Of course, Thornton has had his share of bad innings so far, but nobody in the bullpen has been lights out, and having his 97 throwing southpay ass is probably more valuable than Borchard taking AB's away from Ozuna. I'll add my thoughts on to your post. I wasn't so much against the trade as I was just of giving up on Borchard. I figured there had to be an upside to Matt Thornton who could throw 99 MPH BB's. He just needed someone who could help him harness that raw speed to be effective. I think that is happened. However, I still wish we would have traded someone other than Borchard as I see him as more versatile and more upside than what we have been seeing with Gload. Now mind you I realize it's hard to be productive when you get like 1 or 2 at bats a week, but that may also be the reason we should have kept Joe B as the OF is where we can manuever more for spot starts and fill ins, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Something I've noticed with Thornton: His slider isn't effective at all against righties. He's better off sticking with the fastball to righties, and using the slider against lefties. As long as he can throw strikes with his fastball, he'll be a solid option in the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 21, 2006 -> 06:51 AM) I think Montero will go down instead of Logan, but that's just me. I agree. The weird thing is that Jeff Nelson has been deactivated in Charlotte (well he's inactive). So I'm wondering if thats a sign he's about to join Chicago or if he is giving up or what. Montero down, Logan down, Lopez or Nelson back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 I'll add my thoughts on to your post... I agree that it should have been Gload shipped out instead of Borchard, given if Gload is not going to get any burn. At this point, neither Gload or Borchard is anything other than a replacement player, but Borchard at least can play a passable CF, and still has some upside as a possible 4th outfielder. Gload is probably just a AAAA player, given that he can't hit well enough to be a full time 1B, and has no defensive value in the corner OF as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 21, 2006 -> 11:28 AM) I agree. The weird thing is that Jeff Nelson has been deactivated in Charlotte (well he's inactive). So I'm wondering if thats a sign he's about to join Chicago or if he is giving up or what. Montero down, Logan down, Lopez or Nelson back up. I never got a reply but that might have just been a mistake on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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