samclemens Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/21/D8HOCUJ81.html sorry...there are corrupt democrats, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Shocker....corrupt politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Well that convinces me to give the GOP a clean slate for all their crimes! Please, there are corrupt politicians and they all need one good swift kick in the ass from somebody that isn't in their little club. (i.e. Ned Lamont taking it to Joe Lieberman in CT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ May 21, 2006 -> 10:46 PM) Well that convinces me to give the GOP a clean slate for all their crimes! Please, there are corrupt politicians and they all need one good swift kick in the ass from somebody that isn't in their little club. (i.e. Ned Lamont taking it to Joe Lieberman in CT) And Lemont isn't in a club? He is only in it because he is taking the lead from the moonbat anti-war club and the rest of the Democratic party. If they could, the party would run from Lieberman as fast as they can, but instead they will secretly just stay in the background, hoping for a Lemont win, and maybe even helping a little, under the table. Wasn't Howard Dean's brother running his campaign or something? I know he was involved somehow. I know he is in charge of the PAC that Howard vreated during his so-called Presidential bid. Lemont is just as much 'in the club' as anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 QUOTE(samclemens @ May 21, 2006 -> 05:38 PM) http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/21/D8HOCUJ81.html sorry...there are corrupt democrats, too. Yes there are. Hopefully he goes down hard for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 s***ty Congressmen shouldn't be reelected period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ May 22, 2006 -> 01:47 PM) s***ty Congressmen shouldn't be reelected period. I wouldn't mind seeing about 500 out of 535 new faces. But it ain't gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mplssoxfan Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 22, 2006 -> 09:07 AM) I wouldn't mind seeing about 500 out of 535 new faces. But it ain't gonna happen. We all would. The problem is that I like my guy, you like your guy, while you don't necessarily like my guy and I don't necessarily like your guy. Also, the politicos have apportioned the seats so that a vast majority of the seats are safe -- either for one party or the other. I really like the way Iowa apportions their seats, with an independent commission. No gerrymandering, no politics and the seats are mostly competitive. Unfortunately, I don't see any chance for many states switching to that system. Just as it's not in wolves' natures to release their prey, it's not in politicians' natures to release their grip on power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 i don't like my guy and will be voting against him in October. Problem is, there will only be about 36-38% of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 I'm guessing fewer than that. (The election is in November) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 well last time we ran a pretty weak candidate against Hastert and lost 69-31%. I'm hoping that we break at least 35% this time, maybe even 40%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 I'm so bummed about our entire gov't right now. Party doesn't matter. They all are just bureaucrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 22, 2006 -> 12:48 PM) I'm so bummed about our entire gov't right now. Party doesn't matter. They all are just bureaucrats. Yes sir, the government is literally almost 100 percent corrupt extremist bureaucrats, regardless of party. And voting for change means nothing since most people just vote along party lines and ignore the candidates anyways. Until we see some honesty and moderation in both parties, things won't change though, and I think things are a LONG way from changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 We've known this guy was going down for quite some time. The Feds raided his offices before Katrina...he's the one who used the military or the Guard to sneak back into his house after the storm to retrieve some sort of documents, and no one really knows what he grabbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 22, 2006 -> 12:55 PM) Yes sir, the government is literally almost 100 percent corrupt extremist bureaucrats, regardless of party. And voting for change means nothing since most people just vote along party lines and ignore the candidates anyways. Until we see some honesty and moderation in both parties, things won't change though, and I think things are a LONG way from changing. Which is why the voting public (and non-voting public) are just as responsible for this situation, if not more so, than the politicians themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 22, 2006 -> 01:55 PM) Yes sir, the government is literally almost 100 percent corrupt extremist bureaucrats, regardless of party. And voting for change means nothing since most people just vote along party lines and ignore the candidates anyways. Until we see some honesty and moderation in both parties, things won't change though, and I think things are a LONG way from changing. That's really not true. Although government tends to be a magnet for corruption (at least partially because of the power and money available in public service), I'd venture to say that most lawmakers are not intentionally corrupt. However, the fish rots from the head down and too often, the most powerful ARE the most corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ May 22, 2006 -> 07:05 PM) That's really not true. Although government tends to be a magnet for corruption (at least partially because of the power and money available in public service), I'd venture to say that most lawmakers are not intentionally corrupt. However, the fish rots from the head down and too often, the most powerful ARE the most corrupt. I hate to say it, but that corruption is often times how they get to be in the power positions they are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 For some, but not most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ May 22, 2006 -> 12:50 PM) For some, but not most. These days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Yes. Although I believe our view is tarnished by the rot at the top and near constantly, there are plenty of good people who work in the government who aren't all about corruption. And who are all about good service. We just don't hear about them? Why? Cause most of them are just doing their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ May 22, 2006 -> 01:35 PM) Yes. Although I believe our view is tarnished by the rot at the top and near constantly, there are plenty of good people who work in the government who aren't all about corruption. And who are all about good service. We just don't hear about them? Why? Cause most of them are just doing their jobs. Of course there are...but the real problem is...they're not the ones who are getting the powerful positions, they're just the ones plugging away. And the reason they're not rising to the top ahead of people who say, ran several oil companies into the ground, exterminated bugs, or worked for Arabian Horse traders is that they're not nearly as well connected as the people who aren't corrupt, as the corruption is what helps build their connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 When we could have had a president who just married rich... twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Bill Frist, Dennis Hastert, Newt Gingrich and others step forwards to complain about the fact that the FBI searched Mr. Jefferson's offices, the first time in history the FBI has done that with a sitting Congressperson. Birds of a feather... But if they have nothing to hide, they have no reason to worry about the searches, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Oh, they did it without a warrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ May 23, 2006 -> 04:20 PM) Oh, they did it without a warrant. Even Hastert said they got a warrent "The actions of the Justice Department in seeking and executing this warrant raise important Constitutional issues that go well beyond the specifics of this case," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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