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5/23/06: White Sox vs. A's


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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 24, 2006 -> 01:08 AM)
Vazquez is head and shoulders above Jon Garland on their best days.

 

He'll be fine. And this inning wasn't THAT bad at all.

 

Considering both guys are making almost 10 million dollars this season, I'd sincerely hope they're pretty damn good on their best days.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 23, 2006 -> 08:08 PM)
Vazquez is head and shoulders above Jon Garland on their best days.

 

He'll be fine. And this inning wasn't THAT bad at all.

 

I disagree. When Big Jon is on, he's dominating. Remember those 2 straight, 4 hit shutouts last year?

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QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ May 23, 2006 -> 08:09 PM)
I disagree. When Big Jon is on, he's dominating. Remember those 2 straight, 4 hit shutouts last year?

 

Feel free to disagree. Four shutouts doesn't a better pitcher make.

 

Vazquez is excellent. Garland is not. And that'll establish itself by the end of the season even to those who don't believe it already.

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 24, 2006 -> 01:11 AM)
Feel free to disagree. Four shutouts doesn't a better pitcher make.

 

Vazquez is excellent. Garland is not. And that'll establish itself by the end of the season even to those who don't believe it already.

 

Your definition of excellent must be quite different than most of ours. Vazquez is one of those guys who looks better on the mound than his results end up being.

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This game seems like fate has it in for us. We shouldn't have won that game last tonight, but we did. Now we jump out to a 5-0 lead and think we should cruise, but not so much...

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QUOTE(SnB @ May 23, 2006 -> 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
like a fog cloud to magically appear above right field and right field only in the top of an inning

That reminds me of that one game in 2003 when the umps wouldn't delay the game and Maggs had no chance on a flyout against who else, Oakland. :angry:

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QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 24, 2006 -> 01:13 AM)
That reminds me of that one game in 2003 when the umps wouldn't delay the game and Maggs had no chance on a flyout against who else, Oakland. :angry:

 

That's the game he was referring to.

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QUOTE(santo=dorf @ May 23, 2006 -> 07:13 PM)
That reminds me of that one game in 2003 when the umps wouldn't delay the game and Maggs had no chance on a flyout against who else, Oakland. :angry:

 

Did Byrnes hit that ball or was he running? I'm just glad he's not on this team anymore.

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QUOTE(jphat007 @ May 24, 2006 -> 01:14 AM)
Did Byrnes hit that ball or was he running? I'm just glad he's not on this team anymore.

 

I think he hit the ball. The worst thing was the Colon blew a 2 run lead the night before because he couldn't retire one particular player.....CHRIS SINGLETON!

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QUOTE(fathom @ May 23, 2006 -> 08:12 PM)
Your definition of excellent must be quite different than most of ours. Vazquez is one of those guys who looks better on the mound than his results end up being.

 

If it is, I feel I've got a better standard for excellence. Javier Vazquez is head and shoulders above Jon Garland.

 

His biggest problem is that he gives up the long ball, and that's been his historical problem. His WHIP is excellent.

 

Today, though, he's had to throw in a VERY small strike zone, and that helps explain and justify some of the pitching.

 

I do dislike his tendency to get rattled and shaky when he's angry, but everyone gets like that when they've gotta get five outs or are being shafted at the plate.

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