samclemens Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/stcasx/n...ow.wmv/play.asx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 You do know that CEI were the geniuses that went on record a few years ago as saying that "even if global warming exists" (yes, of course they were pretending it did not) they thought it was really a good thing, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Interestingly, Paramount Pictures has pledged to make the publicity for this film "Carbon Neutral". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 (edited) I can't even read the words in the video. Edited May 24, 2006 by KipWellsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 From Wikipedia.com CEI has been an outspoken opponent of government action on global warming which would require limits on greenhouse gas emissions. CEI has also been a leading member of the Cooler Heads Coalition, which operates the website globalwarming.org. In March 1992, CEI’s founder, Fred Smith, said, of global warming: "Most of the indications right now are it looks pretty good. Warmer winters, warmer nights, no effects during the day because of clouding, sounds to me like we’re moving to a more benign planet, more rain, richer, easier productivity to agriculture". [1] Exxon Mobil Corporation is a "major donor" to CEI, with over $1.6 million in contributions between 1998 and 2005. In 2004 the company gave CEI $180,000 that was earmarked for "global climate change and global climate change outreach." CEI also gets funding from other oil companies through the American Petroleum Institute. [2] In December of 2005 CEI participated in the UNFCCC negotiations in Montreal as an NGO, sending back several dispatches summarzing events of the conference [3]. In a 2006 letter to the Archbishop of Canterbury (after the Archbishop urged Christians to take action to reduce emissions), the CEI claimed that reducing pollution levels, even in 'baby steps' would 'result in the deaths of more people in the U.S. than global warming would worldwide' [4]. In May of 2006, CEI released two television commercials arguing against Global Warming, with the tagline "They call it pollution; We call it life." Curt Davis, director of the Center for Geospatial Intelligence at the University of Missouri-Columbia, says CEI is misrepresenting his previous research to back their claims. "These television ads are a deliberate effort to confuse and mislead the public about the global warming debate," he said. [5] Criticism CEI has been called an "ideologically-driven, well-funded front for corporations opposed to safety and environmental regulations that affect the way they do business" by Sourcewatch. It would probably be a fair assessment to say that the CEI chooses its issues based on the interests of its corporate stakeholders. As a result, while it may be true that excessive government regulation can hurt consumers, the organization's statements should be understood to be promoting specific industry agendas, rather than simply the common good. Special attention should be made to their scientific claims, as they are selective in their use of facts. For example, one of their ad campaigns displays a headline from a paper that shows that the East Antarctic ice sheet is growing without mentioning that the abstract of the article (seen in the ad) says that although this mitigates sea-level rise from melting glacier, it does not balance it out completely. In two of their ad campaigns, they imply that global warming is not a problem. One video depicts a world in which carbon dioxide is NOT causing a backlash within the earth's environment, while the other video makes an attempt at showing that the glaciers and polar ice caps are growing, not shrinking--opposed to a large porition of what the scientific community believes. There is an over abundance of information stating that human interactions have caused a lot of damage to the earth, while CEI works on trying to counter these facts. The group is thought to centralize a lot of their points of view on the world's ecological situation as being merely exaggerated by environmental advocacy groups. -- Yeah, they take in hundreds of thousands of dollars from Exxon Mobil and then are supposed to be a 'neutral' interest group. If you want to call anybody a b****, they fit the bill just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Great thread title :headshake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 This screen capture shows that Gore's CO2 meter is about 683,000,000, while the one for the average person is 177, so apparently Gore's flying around produces 4,000,000 times as much CO2 as the average person does in their regular activities. The average person produces about 170 pounds of CO2 per day. According to the CEI video Gore only makes flights from one side of the USA to the other and never flies to somewhere in the middle of the country or on the same coast. This calculator says that a cross country flight produces 1600 pounds of CO2. It seems that the CEI believe that Gore must take 4,000,000*(170/1600)=400,000 cross-country flights every day of the year. Taking a cross country flight even every second day would be a pretty brutal schedule, so CEI are out by at least a factor of a million. Link. Even if you assume that they're counting every pound of CO2 and not normalizing by number of passengers on the plane, they're still off by a factor of over 10^3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 I trust the oil companies in all environmental issues. I am certain thay are looking out for our best interests. After all, they live on the planet also, and wouldn't put personal profit ahead of protecting our environment for future generations. Would they? of course they would, and would spend what it took to keep business as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Every person in politics, regardless of party or gender, is a b****. There, thread title fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samclemens Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 28, 2006 -> 01:53 PM) There, thread title fixed. i agree with what you are saying. sorry to all the PCers i offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 What a sophisticated title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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