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QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 26, 2006 -> 09:01 PM)
Absolutely devastated. Terrible way to go out.

 

Italy's penalty was ABSOLUTE BS. Lucas Neill was on the ground, lying down, and the Italy Left Back jumped over him, Neill didn't move, and then the Italy guy theatrically fell to the ground. He should have gotten a yellow card for diving instead.

 

Materazzi getting sent off was fairly bordeline. The tackle itself wasn't that bad and probablly deserved a yellow, but he was the last man, which equals trouble.

 

But we've had refereeing decisions go against us all tournament. It's nothing new.

Funny how blatantly different the different sides see it. I don't see how you can b**** about the penalty that much. The defender dove, missed the ball, and got the man in the box. That equals a penalty and if you didn't have your Aussie bias blinders on you would see that. No one has argued with the call.

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QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 02:20 AM)
Funny how blatantly different the different sides see it. I don't see how you can b**** about the penalty that much. The defender dove, missed the ball, and got the man in the box. That equals a penalty and if you didn't have your Aussie bias blinders on you would see that. No one has argued with the call.

Actually, it was not a penalty kick. The Aussie defender fell and was laying almost completely on the ground and then the Italian forward dragged his feet and purposely tripped himself over the defender. If anything, it was a dive and not a PK. And this is from a neutral perspective.

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Ghana has copmletely outplayed Brazil for 72 minutes but Brazil has gotten 2 goals (1 was a bulls*** goal where the player was offsides) and Ghana blew an easy goal.

 

Brazil's experiene and a little luck is the only reason they are gonna get past a Ghana team that played fantastic.

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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 11:31 AM)
Ghana has copmletely outplayed Brazil for 72 minutes but Brazil has gotten 2 goals (1 was a bulls*** goal where the player was offsides) and Ghana blew an easy goal.

 

Brazil's experiene and a little luck is the only reason they are gonna get past a Ghana team that played fantastic.

Adriano's offside no-call is questionable. You can't really tell from any angle if he was offsides or not but when he received the ball, he was even with the defender, but I do belive he was about 1/4 of a step ahead of him when the ball was passed. Oh well. 2-0.

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QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 09:44 AM)
It looks like they keep trying to play an offside trap at mid-field. Probably not too smart against a team like Brazil.

Yep, plus I think Ghana is gassed. They played a very good 75-78 minutes of soccer.

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QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 11:27 AM)
Actually, it was not a penalty kick. The Aussie defender fell and was laying almost completely on the ground and then the Italian forward dragged his feet and purposely tripped himself over the defender. If anything, it was a dive and not a PK. And this is from a neutral perspective.

I'm sorry I forgot you were the all knowing one when it comes to soccer. The fact is none of the analysts I've heard have complained about the call.

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QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 02:45 PM)
I'm sorry I forgot you were the all knowing one when it comes to soccer. The fact is none of the analysts I've heard have complained about the call.

You don't have to be a soccer know it all to see that it wasn't a penalty kick. Obviously, you have the Italian blinders on just like DBAH0 had the Aussie blinders on. He tripped himself, watch the play again.

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QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 02:58 PM)
You don't have to be a soccer know it all to see that it wasn't a penalty kick. Obviously, you have the Italian blinders on just like DBAH0 had the Aussie blinders on. He tripped himself, watch the play again.

Like I said, none of the analysts have complained about the call. Wynalda said it was a clear penalty in the post game. I don't need to take blinders off to state facts.

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QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 03:00 PM)
Like I said, none of the analysts have complained about the call. Wynalda said it was a clear penalty in the post game. I don't need to take blinders off to state facts.

Yeah, and Eric Wynalda has been dead on with everything he's said this World Cup. The guy has no business anayzing anything.

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QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 03:10 PM)
Right and you're more qualified.

No, I'm not, but for a soccer "legend" in the US, he sure as heck complains a lot and makes a lot of biased/incorrest/opinionated comments.

 

Penalty?

 

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QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 01:02 PM)
Yeah, and Eric Wynalda has been dead on with everything he's said this World Cup. The guy has no business anayzing anything.

I love Wynalda. He called up Arena's and Donovan and anyone else that sucked for the US. I also loved him and Lalas arguing from time to time (Lalas is the man too).

 

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 01:13 PM)
No, I'm not, but for a soccer "legend" in the US, he sure as heck complains a lot and makes a lot of biased/incorrest/opinionated comments.

 

Penalty?

 

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Rynalda didn't necessarily call it a penalty. He more so said the Aussie player made a huge mistake and the Italian player took advantage of it and did what was necessary to give the call. He basically said you have to tip your hat to the Italian player for doing so and obviously the Aussie player made a mistake (since it was a dumb slide tackle attempt inside the box).

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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 03:15 PM)
I love Wynalda. He called up Arena's and Donovan and anyone else that sucked for the US. I also loved him and Lalas arguing from time to time (Lalas is the man too).

Lalas at least tell the truth. After the US games, Wynalda was just making excuses, and Lalas called his ass out all the time, and it was great.

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QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 03:20 PM)
I still say it's a penalty. You slide in the box and don't get the ball, you're usually screwed. Maybe Grosso accentuated the dive, but as I said before Neill dove in the box, missed the ball, and got the man.

Then we'll have to agree to disagree. Grosso jumped with his fornt leg and clearly landed on Niell's arm and dragged his back leg on purpose. But it doesn't really matter because it was called a penalty anyway and Italy won.

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QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 03:16 PM)
Lalas at least tell the truth. After the US games, Wynalda was just making excuses, and Lalas called his ass out all the time, and it was great.

 

I don't really like either of them, but I will say that I recall wynalda ripping the team, and especially arena, A LOT. He expressed being ashamed at the effort, and I believe it was on Sportscenter that he ripped arena completely for being completely classless when he was pouting and making hand gestures towards the refs after the ghana match instead of congratulating the opposing coach. He said he was embaressed because of the disrespect and complete lack of sportsmanship that arena showed, calling him a "fat coach" who looked ridiculous pouting, and he could not wait 'til a a new coach was brought in.

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QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 03:44 PM)
I don't really like either of them, but I will say that I recall wynalda ripping the team, and especially arena, A LOT. He expressed being ashamed at the effort, and I believe it was on Sportscenter that he ripped arena completely for being completely classless when he was pouting and making hand gestures towards the refs after the ghana match instead of congratulating the opposing coach. He said he was embaressed because of the disrespect and complete lack of sportsmanship that arena showed, calling him a "fat coach" who looked ridiculous pouting, and he could not wait 'til a a new coach was brought in.

I didn't see the Ghana/US post-game so I don't know about that but after the Czech/US he was making an uber amount of excuses and after the Italian game, he was gushing over how much they improved and how they will surely beat Ghana. Whataver, I hate Wynalda.

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QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 01:46 PM)
I didn't see the Ghana/US post-game so I don't know about that but after the Czech/US he was making an uber amount of excuses and after the Italian game, he was gushing over how much they improved and how they will surely beat Ghana. Whataver, I hate Wynalda.

Ya, he went from making excuses to flat out ripping the US team to shreds following the Ghana game. He was dead on too. He was sick of hearing excuses from Arena and called for the ouster of Arena. He was pretty harsh and Arena was being interviewed later on and pretty much was asked pointedly about the callings for his firing by the ESPN commentators (since they are former US soccer stars).

 

Lalas was awesome and his commentary where he would go off on Rynalda was great. Both really spoke there minds and they differed in opinions from time to time and it made great TV. I've been watching most of the games as I get to wake up to them out here on the West Coast and than catch WC live.

 

I also like the Euro analyst they've had on because you get a totally different perspective of things, since they won't have the US bias that our guys obviously will have.

 

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 01:46 PM)
I didn't see the Ghana/US post-game so I don't know about that but after the Czech/US he was making an uber amount of excuses and after the Italian game, he was gushing over how much they improved and how they will surely beat Ghana. Whataver, I hate Wynalda.

We played fantastic against Italy, one of the best teams in this tourney so I see no reason why you shouldnt' be optimistic. The team was completely jobbed by s***ty officiating yet stuck in, played a man down and got a tie. It was a very impressive and gutsy performance, one in which Donovan actually showed up.

 

How was anyone supposed to know that Donovan would take a completely dive, our coach would be completely inept, and that Reyna (a so called veteran) would make rookie mistakes and f*** our chances. Its not like Ghana outplayed us, we had a s***ty call in the box and a dumbass play by Reyna aside from that the US didn't play bad against Ghana.

 

The Czech game was a complete f***ing joke though. Oh and Keller didn't step up and shine like one of the better goalies in the world is supposed to.

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