fullcollapse Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 11:06 PM) Is it too much to ask of Ozzie for him to simply learn from his mistakes? this is what i can't understand. this isn't the first time we've seen this kind of of thing. more often than not it does't work out. i really like the energy and attitude ozzie brings, but the way he handles the pitching is sketchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 But it's still a catch 22. Why can't the guy Ozzie brings in from the bullpen get the job done? If the player (pitcher) comes through, we're not talking about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(greg775 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 01:46 AM) But it's still a catch 22. Why can't the guy Ozzie brings in from the bullpen get the job done? If the player (pitcher) comes through, we're not talking about this. It's about putting your players in the best position possible to be successful and IMO Guillen did not do that today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 For everyone who thinks Ozzie can do no wrong, why is he the genius when he makes moves and they work out, but its the player's fault when he makes moves and it doesn't work out? I actually would like to ask Hawk this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 The players should get more credit and the players should get more blame. He wanted Contreras to face Arod and I suspect that would've been it for him regardless. He was at 100 pitches for the night and how many people on this board squawk when he lets the pitchers throw 110, 115? Certainly the bullpen was fresh. Let's face it there were some freakish hits but the key was Thornton walking Bernie Williams, that was bad. Two switch hitters did the job for the Yankees and whoever that kid hitter was who faced BMac, I'm happy he didn't drill one out to the monuments, he had at least two good pitches to hit. The only thing I might have done differently was bring in Cotts right after Contreras but that's overanalyzing too. Thotnton and Cotts can both get K's. Damon got the key hit off of Cotts and it was one of Johnny Damon's specials, a slap hit right down the 3rd base line on a pretty good pitch by Cotts. Ozuna did not have a good game either. A little iffy in LF as usual and a bad day at the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Can someone define the word "Ozzieball" for me? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Lets dig some f***ing posts from last year. Everyone who wanted Guillen gone in August should have had to eat crow. But for some reason, it was never brought up when we lifted our first banner in 88 years. We should really do some more post/thread digging next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 03:04 PM) Lets dig some f***ing posts from last year. Everyone who wanted Guillen gone in August should have had to eat crow. But for some reason, it was never brought up when we lifted our first banner in 88 years. We should really do some more post/thread digging next year. ^^^ but Buehrle still looks like worthless lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Rotoworld's take on Buehrle's game: The defense behind Buehrle was a joke. Derek Jeter was credited with an RBI double on a shot to center that Brian Anderson misjudged in the first. In the fourth, a leadoff single was followed by what was termed a bunt hit because Tadahito Iguchi forgot to cover first base on the play. That resulted in another bunt, and Paul Konerko threw to third in plenty of time to get the lead runner, only to have Alex Cintron drop the ball. A double and a single followed, knocking Buehrle from the game. The double might have been a single, but Anderson made a terrible throw back to the infield. Buerhle is struggling right now, but he probably would have kept the White Sox in the game with some help. Jul. 15 - 4:54 pm et Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) UP TO THE SECOND SP TRUST LEVELS: 1.) Jose Contreras - I have much faith in the Titan, I truely expect him to kickass every time out. - - 2.) Jon Garland - The tallest of the midgets at this point in time, he's been pitching considerably better than the other 3. - 3.) Mark Buehrle - 22 ER (24 R) over his last 14.1 IP, that's 3 straight horrid starts. I hate him right now. 4.) Javier Vazquez - I have much faith in Javy, faith that 4 out of his 6 IP in each start will be stellar but he'll end up allowing 3 runs per in the other 2 because an opposing hitter looked at him the wrong way. - - - 5.) Freddy Maddux - No real reason for him to be pitching for this team in August. Edited July 21, 2006 by Kalapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 10:51 PM) UP TO THE SECOND SP TRUST LEVELS: 1.) Jose Contreras - I have much faith in the Titan, I truely expect him to kickass every time out. - - 2.) Jon Garland - The tallest of the midgets at this point in time, he's been pitching considerably better than the other 3. - 3.) Mark Buehrle - 22 ER (24 R) over his last 14.1 IP, that's 3 straight horrid starts. I hate him right now. 4.) Javier Vazquez - I have much faith in Javy, faith that 4 out of his 6 IP in each start will be stellar but he'll end up allowing 3 runs per in the other 2 because an opposing hitter looked at him the wrong way. - - - 5.) Freddy Maddux - No real reason for him to be pitching for this team in August. well, done, well done, but I have more faith in Javy than I do Mark at the moment. Javy can still get lucky with a 94 mph fastball. Mark cant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 11:51 PM) UP TO THE SECOND SP TRUST LEVELS: 1.) Jose Contreras - I have much faith in the Titan, I truely expect him to kickass every time out. - - 2.) Jon Garland - The tallest of the midgets at this point in time, he's been pitching considerably better than the other 3. - 3.) Mark Buehrle - 22 ER (24 R) over his last 14.1 IP, that's 3 straight horrid starts. I hate him right now. 4.) Javier Vazquez - I have much faith in Javy, faith that 4 out of his 6 IP in each start will be stellar but he'll end up allowing 3 runs per in the other 2 because an opposing hitter looked at him the wrong way. - - - 5.) Freddy Maddux - No real reason for him to be pitching for this team in August. Ahh...remember the days when we used to see polls about how many 20 game winners we would have? *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I guess the Yankee fans got tired of hearing the 'Pau-lee Pau-lee' and 'Let's go White Sox' chants all weekend. Did anyone notice the mock 'Paul-ee Paul-ee' and 'Let's go Yankees' chants that went up in the 9th when he hit into that dp? I've NEVER heard that chant at Yankee stadium before. What a classy bunch those New Yorkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 11:51 PM) UP TO THE SECOND SP TRUST LEVELS: - 5.) Freddy Maddux - No real reason for him to be pitching for this team in August. I wonder if we had radar gun wars between El Duque and Freddy who would throw harder. It seems like we replaced El Duque of last year, with our new version. Except this version doesnt know when to go on the DL. Hopefully he has a horseshoe up his ass like last years. Remember last year, when El Duque was rested he would break 90 and would dominate. When he was tired and needed DL time he would be in the 80s and would be getting rocked. Edited July 17, 2006 by southsideirish71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 A few weeks back someone compared this team with last year's Red Sox. Looks like they were dead on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 02:15 PM) A few weeks back someone compared this team with last year's Red Sox. Looks like they were dead on. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 04:17 PM) How so? Starting pitching for s***, shoddy defense, no speed and a team that tries to outslug you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 04:22 PM) Starting pitching for s***, shoddy defense, no speed and a team that tries to outslug you. That might desribe the past two weeks, but I'll bet at least 3 of those things turn around in the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 09:03 AM) I guess the Yankee fans got tired of hearing the 'Pau-lee Pau-lee' and 'Let's go White Sox' chants all weekend. Did anyone notice the mock 'Paul-ee Paul-ee' and 'Let's go Yankees' chants that went up in the 9th when he hit into that dp? I've NEVER heard that chant at Yankee stadium before. What a classy bunch those New Yorkers. I loved our road presence, but I thought it was smooth how they reacted to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 10:19 PM) I loved our road presence, but I thought it was smooth how they reacted to it. that's what i thought too. gotta love sports atmospheres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 QUOTE(SnB @ Jul 17, 2006 -> 11:02 PM) that's what i thought too. gotta love sports atmospheres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Lawrence Holmes was on his f***ing game today, he ripped the s*** out of Sox fans and it was an absolutely beautiful thing. What did he say you ask? Just imagine me yelling into a microphone for a few hours on everything I b**** about here. Including a certain thing some "fans" have been doing in the late innings of close games this year that I've ranted on in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Today's poll on the espn/mlb front page: WHICH AL CENTRAL ROTATION WOULD YOU TRUST DOWN THE STRETCH? - Chicago - Detroit - Minnesota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 The fan behind the plate waving a red shirt. Do you really think waving a red shirt will have any effect on the players??? Red is not even the color of the Tigers......moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 This isn't him, but it is hilarious. myspace.com/jimthome2006 While you're there check out myspace.com/carleverett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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