knightni Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Rowand and Crisp would be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Just heard an brief interview with KW from Bruce Levine on ESPN1000.... Kenny was asked whether there would be a long-term deal for Joe Crede in the off-season. He said that the issues regarding Crede's back have been overblown by people (including myself, though, he in no way mentioned me ) but that he didn't expect a deal to be reached "and that has everything to do with his representation." He said the Sox and Boras have different views on the value of players and he doesn't expect that to change anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsfan13 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 14, 2006 -> 06:12 PM) Just heard an brief interview with KW from Bruce Levine on ESPN1000.... Kenny was asked whether there would be a long-term deal for Joe Crede in the off-season. He said that the issues regarding Crede's back have been overblown by people (including myself, though, he in no way mentioned me ) but that he didn't expect a deal to be reached "and that has everything to do with his representation." He said the Sox and Boras have different views on the value of players and he doesn't expect that to change anytime soon. Well if Crede want to stay in Chicago then he's gonna have to step in and remind Boras that he works for Crede . I guess we'll find out just how bad Joe wants to stay . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I hate Scott Boras. I would be disappointed to lose Crede because he is genuinely too expensive for us, but if we lose him because of Boras that will be bulls***. Crede needs to f***ing drop Boras like Uribe did or step in himself for the negotiations with the sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 QUOTE(Whitewashed in @ Nov 14, 2006 -> 08:41 PM) I hate Scott Boras. I would be disappointed to lose Crede because he is genuinely too expensive for us, but if we lose him because of Boras that will be bulls***. Crede needs to f***ing drop Boras like Uribe did or step in himself for the negotiations with the sox. I dont want to lose Crede but Crede needs to make a decision if he wants to stay. The sox will definitely pay him but he need to lose Boras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 14, 2006 -> 06:12 PM) Just heard an brief interview with KW from Bruce Levine on ESPN1000.... Kenny was asked whether there would be a long-term deal for Joe Crede in the off-season. He said that the issues regarding Crede's back have been overblown by people (including myself, though, he in no way mentioned me ) but that he didn't expect a deal to be reached "and that has everything to do with his representation." He said the Sox and Boras have different views on the value of players and he doesn't expect that to change anytime soon. Isn't that illogical? If another team does pay what Boras sees as the player's value doesn't that mean his (Boras) assesment was right all along? To sign a potential FA early you need to match the upside of the player's percieved open market value or it doesn't make any sense for the player to sign. I think this is true no matter who the agent is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 14, 2006 -> 06:12 PM) Just heard an brief interview with KW from Bruce Levine on ESPN1000.... Kenny was asked whether there would be a long-term deal for Joe Crede in the off-season. He said that the issues regarding Crede's back have been overblown by people (including myself, though, he in no way mentioned me ) but that he didn't expect a deal to be reached "and that has everything to do with his representation." He said the Sox and Boras have different views on the value of players and he doesn't expect that to change anytime soon. Translation... Don't be surprised to see Joe Crede go to somewhere else in a blockbuster type deal. QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 08:19 AM) Translation... Don't be surprised to see Joe Crede go to somewhere else in a blockbuster type deal. I got to thinking about it a little more... teams that could be interested might be Anaheim, Giants, Philly, Houston, Cincy, and San Diego... Just guesses. Another wild card I could still see happening is the Arod-Crede/SP deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Ah, let the Joe Crede speculation BEGIN! http://www.topix.net/content/trb/031364364...087022465750673 Some questions and answers on what lies ahead for the Angels this off-season: Question: Will Chone Figgins be an everyday player in 2007? What position will he play? Answer: Figgins' future in Anaheim, which looked so bright after 2005 but dimmed considerably in 2006, will be determined by what moves the Angels make or don't make this winter. If they sign free-agent center fielder Gary Matthews Jr., or trade for Toronto center fielder Vernon Wells, Figgins would move to third base, or, possibly, to the utility role he starred in during 2005. The signing of free-agent slugger Alfonso Soriano, considered by some scouts to have strong center-field potential, also could force a return to the infield for Figgins. There has been speculation of a trade that would send Figgins to the Chicago White Sox for third baseman Joe Crede, and if the Angels added a starting pitcher, such as Barry Zito, through free agency, they probably would look to use Figgins, along with one of their young pitchers, in a deal for a power bat. Figgins, who last season had run-ins with teammates and Manager Mike Scioscia, who questioned his effort, also could be traded for bullpen help. A straight-up swap with the San Diego Padres - Figgins for reliever Scott Linebrink - is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 12:13 PM) Ah, let the Joe Crede speculation BEGIN! http://www.topix.net/content/trb/031364364...087022465750673 oh boy, whatever kenny says believe the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 That's an interesting addition. You add your speed, top of the order, Ozzie type guy in place of Crede at third and then have an option for another bat in the outfield. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 12:23 PM) That's an interesting addition. You add your speed, top of the order, Ozzie type guy in place of Crede at third and then have an option for another bat in the outfield. Interesting. or put Fields at 3rd and Figgins at CF?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Moving Crede is not a horrendous idea...but moving Crede for something as little as Figgins is. With the Talent the Halos have, Figgins, one of their failing prospects (Kotchman, McPherson), and one of their solid prospects (Santana, Wood, Kendrick) would placate me for Crede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I'm thinking a deal that goes something like Figgins/McPhearson/lowminorSP-Crede/Broadway could be of interest to both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 12:30 PM) I'm thinking a deal that goes something like Figgins/McPhearson/lowminorSP-Crede/Broadway could be of interest to both teams. How about Crede and Cotts, they are looking for relievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 12:34 PM) How about Crede and Cotts, they are looking for relievers. I think if we gave them two established major leaguers, the price of their prospect goes up as well. Instead of a lower level pitcher, you take a look at one of their SP prospects on the cusp of the majors... maybe somebody like Chris Bootcheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Bootcheck is a great name....sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 01:30 PM) I'm thinking a deal that goes something like Figgins/McPhearson/lowminorSP-Crede/Broadway could be of interest to both teams. Isn't that a crappy package for the sox considering Crede's ability and Broadway? I sure as hell would expect more/ different guys for the guys were giving up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 QUOTE(Whitewashed in @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 09:34 PM) Isn't that a crappy package for the sox considering Crede's ability and Broadway? I sure as hell would expect more/ different guys for the guys were giving up. That would be an absolutely horrendous trade. If KW did that trade, he should be fired instantly. I wouldn't even trade Broadway straight up for Chone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 QUOTE(Whitewashed in @ Nov 15, 2006 -> 01:34 PM) Isn't that a crappy package for the sox considering Crede's ability and Broadway? I sure as hell would expect more/ different guys for the guys were giving up. All that depends on who the "Low Minors SP" actually is. The Halos have a couple of potentially very good SP's floating around in their low minor leagues after drafting a lot of pitching the last couple years. But even still, yeah, that's certainly not a great package for Crede + Broadway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Dye won the MLBPA's version of the MVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Rotoworld: The Rays asked the Phillies about a Rocco Baldelli-for-Cole Hamels swap and were quickly turned down. Baldelli doesn't make as much sense for the Phillies anyway, as they don't need him as a center fielder. However, there will be plenty of interest in him if he's available. The Rays could potentially get Josh Johnson or Scott Olsen and additional young pitching from the Marlins or Ervin Santana from the Angels. Less likely possibilities would include Chad Billingsley of the Dodgers and Brandon McCarthy of the White Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Did anyone get this book yet? I did a search and came up with nothing on the site. Amazon link: Total White Sox: The Definitive Encyclopedia of the World Champion Franchise If you have it, is it worth picking up? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 i saw it at barnes and nobles a few weeks ago. I looked through it, it didn't look all that special to me. Had little recaps from each season and then a few special sections. Not to mention, pods is on the cover, wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 A Cub fan and I were talking earlier today and he said, "Buehrle hasn't been the same since he got cheated on by his wife." My friend Rashawn, a Cub fan went, "What?!" and I said, "Uh, I don't think that happened or that, if it did, you'd know about it." Then he told me how much better the Cubs were going to be next year and that Soriano would take them all the way. It was the weirdest conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Thank god Soriano strikes out so many batters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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