Kalapse Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(SoxAce @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:15 PM) Your listening to too much Rancid. It does f*** up the mind in personality. Instead of wanting to slit someone's throat all the time, curse up a storm, and start arguing for know apparent reason, just relax, take a chill pill, and be "one step closer" to being loveable. Well you obviously don't listen to much Rancid now do ya? Maybe the new s*** is kinda glim but the older more ska oriented Rancid is so mellow that it can eliminate depression. And as for the Linkin Park reference . . . nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ May 28, 2006 -> 12:18 AM) MB did save a game in the WS last season though. Yeah, yeah... But that hitting philosophy just reminds me of when Sweet Lou threatened to start the game with his bullpen last year to get the bad innings out of the way early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:19 PM) I was just thinking of the Sox of the late 80s and early 90s when they would have a .300 hitter at the bottom of the order to be a 2nd lead-off hitter. Fair enough, and the Angels do that now with Kennedy. However it is still completely idiotic strategy to have somebody that hits and gets on base hit 9th, it's a waste of scoring chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:19 PM) Yeah, yeah... But that hitting philosophy just reminds me of when Sweet Lou threatened to start the game with his bullpen last year to get the bad innings out of the way early. Oh, I agree with you but I just felt like pointing out that MB thing. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:19 PM) Yeah, yeah... But that hitting philosophy just reminds me of when Sweet Lou threatened to start the game with his bullpen last year to get the bad innings out of the way early. I remember him making that threat, it was while the D Rays were up here last July I believe. Good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:20 PM) Fair enough, and the Angels do that now with Kennedy. However it is still completely idiotic strategy to have somebody that hits and gets on base hit 9th, it's a waste of scoring chances. OK guys I get it. Call my mother a whore while you're at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:20 PM) Fair enough, and the Angels do that now with Kennedy. However it is still completely idiotic strategy to have somebody that hits and gets on base hit 9th, it's a waste of scoring chances. And with that, the Angels are the 28th ranked team in the bigs in runs scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:22 PM) And with that, the Angels are the 28th ranked team in the bigs in runs scored. Thanks for looking up a fact I was too lazy to go find to prove my point . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Rancid is totally unity man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:21 PM) OK guys I get it. Call my mother a whore while you're at it. I was more hating on the 90's White Sox team and this years Angels than I was hating on you. Don't take it personal . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:24 PM) I was more hating on the 90's White Sox team and this years Angels than I was hating on you. Don't take it personal . I would had just said slut... but I'll agree with ya.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:20 PM) However it is still completely idiotic strategy to have somebody that hits and gets on base hit 9th, it's a waste of scoring chances. Btw if you haven't noticed, AJ is not driving anyone in this year. He is getting on base and Uribe and BA bat behind him making the 2nd and 3rd outs of the inning. AJ hasn't done well with RISP, hence the low RBI totals. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:27 PM) Btw if you haven't noticed, AJ is not driving anyone in this year. He is getting on base and Uribe and BA bat behind him making the 2nd and 3rd outs of the inning. AJ hasn't done well with RISP, hence the low RBI totals. Just saying. Yeah A.J. is not hitting great in RISP spots, but also a lot of times the guys in front of him (The big 3) are doing all the driving in and nobody is left for him to drive home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:27 PM) Btw if you haven't noticed, AJ is not driving anyone in this year. He is getting on base and Uribe and BA bat behind him making the 2nd and 3rd outs of the inning. AJ hasn't done well with RISP, hence the low RBI totals. Just saying. This is true, AJ is 29-76 (.382) with the bases empty and only 8-35 (.229) with RISP w/ 11 RBI. QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:31 PM) Yeah A.J. is not hitting great in RISP spots, but also a lot of times the guys in front of him (The big 3) are doing all the driving in and nobody is left for him to drive home. But if they're driving everyone in, then shouldn't they be on base a lot for AJ to knock them in. Thome: 36 ABs with RISP | Konkero: 38 ABs with RISP | Pierz: 35 ABs with RISP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Crede's already looking like garbage again. If he goes in the s***ter, then we'll have 3 black holes batting back-to-back-to-back in our lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:36 PM) This is true, AJ is 29-76 (.382) with the bases empty and only 8-35 (.229) with RISP w/ 11 RBI. But if they're driving everyone in, then shouldn't they be on base a lot for AJ to knock them in. Thome: 36 ABs with RISP | Konkero: 38 ABs with RISP | Pierz: 35 ABs with RISP Hmm good point. Now obviously due to the home runs, A.J. will have an RBI total lower than those 2, but it shouldn't be THAT much lower. That's a bizarre difference in average between RISP spots and just nobody on or man only on 1st spots. QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:36 PM) Crede's already looking like garbage again. If he goes in the s***ter, then we'll have 3 black holes batting back-to-back-to-back in our lineup. Did you watch today's game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:36 PM) Crede's already looking like garbage again. If he goes in the s***ter, then we'll have 3 black holes batting back-to-back-to-back in our lineup. Actually, Crede has turned it on of late. He was 1 for his last 18 going into the Oakland series but in his last 5 games, he's 7 for his last 21 (.333). He's starting to pick it up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:37 PM) Hmm good point. Now obviously due to the home runs, A.J. will have an RBI total lower than those 2, but it shouldn't be THAT much lower. That's a bizarre difference in average between RISP spots and just nobody on or man only on 1st spots. Did you watch today's game? Sadly, yes. He did well today, but that doesn't change the fact that his average has been sinking like a stone for a few weeks. And judging by his career average, he just might keep falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:36 PM) But if they're driving everyone in, then shouldn't they be on base a lot for AJ to knock them in. Thome: 36 ABs with RISP | Konkero: 38 ABs with RISP | Pierz: 35 ABs with RISP That's exactly what I was getting at. Get him on so the top of the order can come up and knock him in. Although he is a baseclogger. Oh well. Was a fun hypothetical. QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:40 PM) Sadly, yes. He did well today, but that doesn't change the fact that his average has been sinking like a stone for a few weeks. And judging by his career average, he just might keep falling. And Dye's average has been sinking like a stone as well. He was around .320 a couple weeks ago. Under .280 now....I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:39 PM) Actually, Crede has turned it on of late. He was 1 for his last 18 going into the Oakland series but in his last 5 games, he's 7 for his last 21 (.333). He's starting to pick it up again. Oh, didn't realize he's been getting more hits of late. I don't remember much about last night's game. I was too pissed about the score and drunk to pay much more attention. QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:41 PM) That's exactly what I was getting at. Get him on so the top of the order can come up and knock him in. Although he is a baseclogger. Oh well. Was a fun hypothetical. And Dye's average has been sinking like a stone as well. He was around .320 a couple weeks ago. Under .280 now....I think. Yeah, I'm not liking these trends. The hitting is gradually coming back down to earth, but the pitching (mainly bullpen) has stayed consistanly terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:40 PM) Sadly, yes. He did well today, but that doesn't change the fact that his average has been sinking like a stone for a few weeks. And judging by his career average, he just might keep falling. He did hit a cold streak, but he's been coming out of it the last week and still is hitting .296 with 7 homers. Not bad for a 7th hitter in the order and a guy who is gold glove calibur at 3rd. Dye is a career .274 hitter who hit .273 last year IIRC. He's now at .283, so I wouldn't expect much more of a falloff from him. Crede will hit about .275 IMO this season, I know that's way above his career splits but he makes a lot more contact now and those balls in play have a better chance of turning into hits than the strikeouts do. Edited May 28, 2006 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(BigSqwert @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:41 PM) And Dye's average has been sinking like a stone as well. He was around .320 a couple weeks ago. Under .280 now....I think. Dye is currently at .283 FWIW. Dye is 3 for his last 24 (.125) over this stretch his average has dropped from .320 to .283 (37 points). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Ozzie starts the season by benching Anderson only against tough right handed pitchers. Then Mackowiak slowly starts being favored over Anderson even against mediocre righties. Now we've come to a point where Brian only gets put in the lineup when a lefty is on the hill, and Guillen is frustrated because BA isn't getting good swings just 100 at-bats into the season. This one game on, two games off regimen that we've reverted to for Anderson really seems like an ass-backwards offensive development process to me. It's no surprise to me that BA can't develop a consistent approach with at-bats that are becoming more sporadic by the week, especially with what like 30-40 major league starts under his belt? As some have hinted at this could be motivational ploy, and I hope it is, because if Ozzie is serious this would be a completely rash and uncalculated move, especially since Anderson hasn't missed a beat in center and every backup we have is a poor fielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 If anyone thought Thome, Dye, Crede, Konerko (he's gonna slip too) AJ (also gonna slip) Iguchi, etc. was gonna keep this up, (or even if all of them hit .300+ for the season if that) then you are nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 QUOTE(3E8 @ May 27, 2006 -> 11:45 PM) Ozzie starts the season by benching Anderson only against tough right handed pitchers. Then Mackowiak slowly starts being favored over Anderson even against mediocre righties. Now we've come to a point where Brian only gets put in the lineup when a lefty is on the hill, and Guillen is frustrated because BA isn't getting good swings just 100 at-bats into the season. This one game on, two games off regimen that we've reverted to for Anderson really seems like an ass-backwards offensive development process to me. It's no surprise to me that BA can't develop a consistent approach with at-bats that are becoming more sporadic by the week, especially with what like 30-40 major league starts under his belt? As some have hinted at this could be motivational ploy, and I hope it is, because if Ozzie is serious this would be a completely rash and uncalculated move, especially since Anderson hasn't missed a beat in center and every backup we have is a poor fielder. Maybe Ozzie is a similar manager to *gasp* Dusty Baker, in the sense that he's not great at developing and giving playing time to rookies due to a lack of patience for young players. Over the course of Ozzie's 3 years here in Chicago how many rookie position playes has he had on his roster? Brian Anderson and Pedro Lopez are the only ones I can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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